The Eldorado, Returns for 2009????

[91TexasSeville]

Originally Posted by mtflight

it just appears that way, but it's not framed. the pic is actually photoshopped from my own Eldo, which does not have frames. But take a look at a 92-02 and you will see the exact same thing (because that's exactly what is photoshopped in there). It's the hard seal/seat for the frameless door window.

Just kidding....

I must admit that it does appear to have a framed window which may be an improvement, I don't know. It seems no matter how many match sticks I shove into my window seal, it eventually learns to whistle again at highway speeds....lol

[MACTICULOUS]

I think it's pretty cool. Especially for just do a little something with the photoshop in your spare time. I like the on where it show the different years.

[ElDawgg 2G]

Hello...

Here's a foto I lifted from GM...
A retrospective of the FIRST, the LAST and some OTHER(?) Eldorado.
The third one's rear end looks like the EV 1.

[Katshot]

Originally Posted by elwesso

Seems pointless to me to have the XLR AND an eldorado.....

My thought exactly. I always thought the XLR should've been called Eldorado.

[mtflight]

Originally Posted by Katshot

My thought exactly. I always thought the XLR should've been called Eldorado.

Bah. So what should the Allanté have been called? XLR replaced the Allanté.

[Playdrv4me]

Originally Posted by gothicaleigh

Why have a fixed top XLR when the convertible is already a retractable hardtop? Like elwesso said, it seems a bit pointless...



Rumors point to a two door CTS when the car is refreshed in 2008 though, so a Cadillac coupe is on it's way.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by mtflight

Tell Mercedes Benz that having a CL500 AND an SL500 is pointless--they're in two different categories (personal luxury, vs. luxury roadster).

If they made a coupe out of the CTS, then it would be in a lower price segment (sans Premium V engine), and it would not be related to the Eldorado which traditionally was the epitome of personal luxury from the beginning. I guess it would be up against a G35 Coupe.

MB can do pretty much whatever they want and people will buy it, GM does not have this luxury. I personally think the CLS500 is fugly.

Also, where your argument breaks down is that the CLS500 and SL500 are two entirely different chassis. What Gothica and Elwesso are saying is why have a coupe version based on the same car that ALREADY has as a hard roof when its in the full upright position? The correct comparison to the CLS500 would be a DTS based coupe, as the CLS500 is a shortened two-door version of the regular S-Class.

[mtflight]

Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

Agreed.



MB can do pretty much whatever they want and people will buy it, GM does not have this luxury. I personally think the CLS500 is fugly.

Also, where your argument breaks down is that the CLS500 and SL500 are two entirely different chassis. What Gothica and Elwesso are saying is why have a coupe version based on the same car that ALREADY has as a hard roof when its in the full upright position? The correct comparison to the CLS500 would be a DTS based coupe, as the CLS500 is a shortened two-door version of the regular S-Class.

I was talking about the two door CL 500, not the CLS.








Well the design is based on it, but not necessarily twins. I was limited to what I could photoshop.. it's not a CAD program. Ideally the two cars would look related, but different. I stretched the wheelbase, added overhangs, backseat, and increased trunk space, by making it a hardtop only.

[AlBundy]

Its always been a XLdoRado. I always looked at it as a Eldorado roster.

[Playdrv4me]

Originally Posted by mtflight

I was talking about the two door CL 500, not the CLS.








Well the design is based on it, but not necessarily twins. I was limited to what I could photoshop.. it's not a CAD program. Ideally the two cars would look related, but different. I stretched the wheelbase, added overhangs, backseat, and increased trunk space, by making it a hardtop only.

Yea, I meant the CL, not CLS... its just a modified W220 platform.

[cl1986]

Originally Posted by ElDawgg 2G

Hello...

Here's a foto I lifted from GM...
A retrospective of the FIRST, the LAST and some OTHER(?) Eldorado.
The third one's rear end looks like the EV 1.

That is freakin retarded!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zorb750]

Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

Agreed.



MB can do pretty much whatever they want and people will buy it, GM does not have this luxury. I personally think the CLS500 is fugly.

Also, where your argument breaks down is that the CLS500 and SL500 are two entirely different chassis. What Gothica and Elwesso are saying is why have a coupe version based on the same car that ALREADY has as a hard roof when its in the full upright position? The correct comparison to the CLS500 would be a DTS based coupe, as the CLS500 is a shortened two-door version of the regular S-Class.

CLS does take getting used to. It's not as ugly to me as at first, but I still think it's ugly. You cannot try to make a 4 door look like a coupe or it becomes ugly. The CLS is an E class though underneath, not S class. CL is S class. Remember the old W140 S class? There was a 2 door version.

[Katshot]

Originally Posted by mtflight

Bah. So what should the Allanté have been called? XLR replaced the Allanté.

Not sure how you figure that.

[mtflight]

Originally Posted by Katshot

Not sure how you figure that.

In terms of the type / category of car.

Entry: BLS
Value: CTS
Mid-Size: STS
Full-Size: DTS
Large-Size: Fleetwood
Personal Luxury: Eldorado
Truck/SUV: Escalade
Crossover: SRX
Roadster: XLR / Allanté

[Tombo47]

I think MT flight is the only one who knwos or "gets" what the Eldo is/was. The Eldorado was always based off the same chassis as the Seville, and it was a personal luxury coupe. The alante however, was the upscale exotic type car offered by cadillac. It was a Roadster. If they made an eldorado now, itd be the same as in 1993 with the Eldorado and Alante both being offered by caddy. The Alante will never outsell the eldo nor would the XLR if the eldo was reborn. They are two different classes of car.

[jesse_price]

I like it but something about the front end donsnt seem right I dont know what it is but that front end just bugs me