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    Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    This has been going on for some time. When I make a big sweeping left hand turn I get a feeling like the driver side wheel is rubbing in the wheel well. However, I don't think it is. Feeling is noticeable in the accelerator and steering wheel and it happens even if I am not on the throttle.

    Is it possible that the nut at the top of my strut is over tightened and it is putting too much pressure on the strut bearing?

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    How about a failing hub bearing assembly or rubbing brake pad(s) ?

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    I assume you've raised the car, turned the wheel and inspected the plastic well liner for marks?

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    The bearing is new and I did it before I replaced it. No rubbing on the plastic. What would I check on the pads?

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    You check for missing hardware (Anti rattle springs and shims ).

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    I did a test today and did the down-hill sweeping left turn that I do on my way to work every morning. Today I did it in neutral and I couldn't feel anything. I then did it in drive. The vibration in the wheel is only present when I am in drive and it gets much worse the second I give the car any gas, eventually going way when I turn of the wheel begins to straighten.

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Yaemish View Post
    I did a test today and did the down-hill sweeping left turn that I do on my way to work every morning. Today I did it in neutral and I couldn't feel anything. I then did it in drive. The vibration in the wheel is only present when I am in drive and it gets much worse the second I give the car any gas, eventually going way when I turn of the wheel begins to straighten.
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    The vibration in the wheel is only present when I am in drive
    and it gets much worse the second I give the car any gas,
    eventually going way when I turn of the wheel begins to straighten.

    that pretty much narrows it down to an outer CV Joint -

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    Outer for sure, not inner? Not worth buying an OEM one (aftermarket messes up alignment), repacking it pretty easy?

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    Quote Originally Posted by Yaemish View Post
    Outer for sure, not inner? Not worth buying an OEM one (aftermarket messes up alignment), repacking it pretty easy?
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    just replace the whole axle assembly -

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    Repacking it not going to fix anything. Replace the axle assembly as Bass has said. There are a number of quality axles available with decent warranties.

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    And axle shafts have zero effect on alignment.
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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    Not true. I have the original CV half-shaft on there now, but last year I was chasing a noise in the front end. I bought an after market half-shaft and used that. The part was not exactly the same and because of this, the wheel bearing did not sit as close as it should have. This resulted in the alignment being off. When I out the original back on, the alignment went back to where it should be. I have print outs from the alignment machine to confirm this finding.

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    The bearing is inside the hub assembly, the hub assembly bolts flush against the steering knuckle, and the axle shaft is slid through it and held in place with the lock nut. The hub assembly is solidly mounted, the position of the outer end of the axle shaft is determined by its position, not the other way around. The only way the bearing/hub assembly would be out out of alignment is if it were not installed correctly on the knuckle. The axle has nothing to do with alignment.

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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    The bearing is inside the hub assembly, the hub assembly bolts flush against the steering knuckle, and the axle shaft is slid through it and held in place with the lock nut. The hub assembly is solidly mounted, the position of the outer end of the axle shaft is determined by its position, not the other way around. The only way the bearing/hub assembly would be out out of alignment is if it were not installed correctly on the knuckle. The axle has nothing to do with alignment.
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    Re: Rubbing feeling in wheel well with turn

    I agree that the half-shaft shouldn't mess with the alignment; providing it is the same as OEM. My problem was caused by it being after market, one of those parts that must have been made to fit a few different cars. While the length was the same as OEM, the part at the end that is shaped like a cone, it stayed thicker over a longer distance (if that makes sense). As a result, where it connected to the hub was farther out than OEM would have been.

    Half-shaft explanation aside, is this a classic symptom of it being the half-shaft? The vibration in the steering wheel and driver-side wheel not being present until some gas is applied? Could it also cause a braking pulsation (like old rotors) even though I have year old EBCs?

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