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    Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Hey wassup people i just wanted to know if i should put a monroe front strut on my cadillac seville sts 2002 i heard they are cheaper but whats the difference between the original ones i have now

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacRider View Post
    Hey wassup people i just wanted to know if i should put a monroe front strut on my cadillac seville sts 2002 i heard they are cheaper but whats the difference between the original ones i have now
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    Hey wassup people
    ah - good afternoon -

    i just wanted to know
    if i should put a monroe front strut on my cadillac seville sts 2002

    front struts must be replaced in pairs -
    so - you are now asking whether or not to replace your original struts
    with Monroe units -

    Monroe are EXCELLENT struts - and and a GREAT choice -

    whats the difference between the original ones i have now
    THAT all depends on the build-date of your STS -

    you COULD have the F45 - CVRSS ACTIVE suspension system -
    OR you COULD have the F55 - MagnaRide ACTIVE suspension -

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    Monroe does NOT make an ACTIVE strut for your car anymore -
    strictly PASSIVE units - same strut used on the SLS model Seville

    the correct Monroe PASSIVE strut for your car is the-
    MONROE 71684 - $62.35 each -
    http://www.partsgeek.com/jzhsgdr-cad...bly.html?fp=pp


    the only source for new F45 struts is ACDelco -
    they can be purchased for around $600 each -

    the F55 struts are a little cheaper -
    but also only available through ACDelco - around $550 each -

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    So do you reccomend me putting monroe struts will it turn on any lights on my cadillac or everything is going to be ok ? Does it harm the cadillac? And should i replace all of them or just the front

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    Quote Originally Posted by basscatt View Post
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    Hey wassup people
    ah - good afternoon -

    i just wanted to know
    if i should put a monroe front strut on my cadillac seville sts 2002

    front struts must be replaced in pairs -
    so - you are now asking whether or not to replace your original struts
    with Monroe units -

    Monroe are EXCELLENT struts - and and a GREAT choice -

    whats the difference between the original ones i have now
    THAT all depends on the build-date of your STS -

    you COULD have the F45 - CVRSS ACTIVE suspension system -
    OR you COULD have the F55 - MagnaRide ACTIVE suspension -

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    Monroe does NOT make an ACTIVE strut for your car anymore -
    strictly PASSIVE units - same strut used on the SLS model Seville

    the correct Monroe PASSIVE strut for your car is the-
    MONROE 71684 - $62.35 each -
    http://www.partsgeek.com/jzhsgdr-cad...bly.html?fp=pp


    the only source for new F45 struts is ACDelco -
    they can be purchased for around $600 each -

    the F55 struts are a little cheaper -
    but also only available through ACDelco - around $550 each -
    Does it?

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    Are the old struts worn out? If they are, the new passive struts will give u a stiffer ride. Which you may like. Or not. Any new struts should make the car ride better. The issue of codes is another thing.

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacRider View Post
    So do you reccomend me putting monroe struts will it turn on any lights on my cadillac or everything is going to be ok ? Does it harm the cadillac? And should i replace all of them or just the front

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    Does it?
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    So do you reccomend me putting monroe struts
    SURE - if your struts are worn out -
    and you don't want to put out the BIG BUCKS for active units -
    this is an EXCELLENT CHOICE -

    will it turn on any lights on my cadillac
    not exactly - but going PASSIVE will trigger a WARNING in the DIC -
    "SERVICE SUSPENSION SYSTEM" -
    BUT there is a cheap and easy solution -
    add resistors to "fool" the suspension computer -

    everything is going to be ok
    after installing the resistors - YES -

    Does it harm the cadillac?
    NO -

    And should i replace all of them or just the front
    the rear shocks are even cheaper than the front struts -
    and would be a good idea -
    the Monroe MA822 KIT is a perfect match to Monroe front struts -
    the best price is $58.35 for BOTH rear shocks -
    http://www.partsgeek.com/32syvb4-bui...ber.html?fp=pp

    YES - the listing says it's for a Buick -
    LOTS of front wheel drive - full size GM cars use them -

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    Replacing F55 struts with passive struts should be against the law since you cannot realistically add it to a car

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    We should start an SLS exchange program .

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Quote Originally Posted by stoveguyy View Post
    Replacing F55 struts with passive struts should be against the law since you cannot realistically add it to a car
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    I have no idea WHAT that could possibly mean -
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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    I just got my 02 Sts back from the shop and took basscats advice. The monroe struts ride like a DREAM!! I purchased the vehicle with the rears modified to passive on an f55. The dealership told me I needed struts for the low volume groaning I was experiencing when goin over small bumps. I replaced Both front and rears with his suggestion and I couldn't be happier. Car rides amazing and sits at the perfect height. Resistors worked well and no errors in DIC to speak of. THANKS BASS!! A fraction of the cost and a hell of a difference in ride quality.
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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Quote Originally Posted by Jjc4908 View Post
    I just got my 02 Sts back from the shop and took basscats advice. The monroe struts ride like a DREAM!! I purchased the vehicle with the rears modified to passive on an f55. The dealership told me I needed struts for the low volume groaning I was experiencing when goin over small bumps. I replaced Both front and rears with his suggestion and I couldn't be happier. Car rides amazing and sits at the perfect height. Resistors worked well and no errors in DIC to speak of. THANKS BASS!! A fraction of the cost and a hell of a difference in ride quality.
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    glad you are happy with the suggestion -

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Hey Basscat, my question is...what happens to the rear ride height when this conversion is done? Is it adjustable? I see alot of STSs that have obviously been converted to passive with rear ends sitting like some jacked up, old Camaro. Any ideas?

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    Passive/active refers to the damping (stiffness) of the shocks/struts, nothing to do with ELC (Electronic Leveling Control). The MA822 shocks are ELC compatible. They have an air bladder, and the stock ELC tubing plugs right into them. Ride height/leveling is unaffected.

    If the rear is jacked up, it means the ELC system isn't exhausting. Usually that means a faulty exhaust solenoid. If its sitting on the ground, the elf system isn't functional, (and if there's no extra load in the car, the coil springs are broken or sagging.

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Maybe I've been seeing cars with either coil over replacements or maybe just faulty ELC systems. Thanks, good to know. It seems all the SLS models sit much higher in the rear than the STS? I've been contemplating buying an SLS as a daily/winter driver, but I don't like the rear ride height they all seem to have.

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    Some SLSs seem to sit higher, as well as F55 STSs. You can always modify the position sensors control arm and adjust it to where you want. But there are ride height specifications in the FSM. Go out of spec and you'll have alignment issues.

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    Re: Should I Put Monroe Strut??

    Quote Originally Posted by centaur View Post
    Hey Basscat, my question is...what happens to the rear ride height when this conversion is done? Is it adjustable? I see alot of STSs that have obviously been converted to passive with rear ends sitting like some jacked up, old Camaro. Any ideas?
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    MoistCabbage is SPOT-ON - as usual -

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    what happens to the rear ride height when this conversion is done?
    NOTHING -
    if the system was working properly BEFORE going PASSIVE -
    it will continue working properly afterwards -
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    our Sevilles have 3 types of suspension -

    PASSIVE -
    F45 - CVRSS -
    F55 - MAGNARIDE -

    they ALL have ELC - Electronic Level Control -

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    if the rear end is sitting too high -
    there is a problem -

    a failed exhaust solenoid within the compressor assembly -

    out of adjustment ride-height sensor -

    missing ride-height sensor connecting rod -

    or the ELC system was changed to coil-over shocks -
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