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    Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 STS (86K Miles)

    Hi All,
    I hope to be a new Cadillac owner tomorrow going to go get a 2001 Seville STS with 86k miles. I have a few questions if someone would be so kind as to lend their knowledge. This is what I know about the vehicle so far. Power windows do not work and from what I understand this is a very common problem and I think I can replace the regulators on my own.
    Here are my questions.
    1. The driver door can only be opened form the outside, any idea what this could be and how easy of a fix it could be?
    2. I see in pictures of others that the cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel in the pictures of the one I am getting they are not located on the steering wheel, what is the difference, is this some sort of an option package?
    3. Does it have automatic headlights?
    4. What should I look for before buying?
    Once I get it I will have more questions I am sure so thanks in advance for any help and or advice.
    Thanks you,
    James

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Hi James,

    'Frozen' power windows are quite common, not to Cadillac in particular. Lack of use, or dirt gets inside in time.

    1. The driver door can only be opened form the outside, any idea what this could be and how easy of a fix it could be?
    I don't know, I always thought the door handle on the inside is attached to a wire that operates the lock. That probably broke?
    I will be corrected if I'm wrong.

    2. I see in pictures of others that the cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel in the pictures of the one I am getting they are not located on the steering wheel, what is the difference, is this some sort of an option package?
    Yes, in 2001 there were 2 options in steering wheels. Either the ones like '98 - '00 with the cruise control as an handle or '02+. I thought the option was Steering Wheel deluxe.
    I think the only difference is, ofcourse the steering wheel itself, and the button layout. Also it was available in less color options.

    3. Does it have automatic headlights?
    Yes, it's the twilight sentinel (slider) under the headlights operation switch.

    4. What should I look for before buying?
    First of all check for codes, these cars come with built in scanners. Read the sticky on top of this forum.
    Also where legal, do some WOT's, if the temperature needle starts to climb to the red it's bad news for the headgasket.
    Listen if the ELC kicks in after 30sec after ignition on. Or pop the trunk and have an buddy sit on the back, the compressor should kick in. If it does and levels-out the rear, let the buddy get off and listen for the release of air.

    If you are outside the US, be sure to check the availability of parts.

    There is probably more, but this is all that pops into my mind right now. I'm sure others will chime in.

    Good luck!
    Dennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslaz
    1. The driver door can only be opened form the outside, any idea what this could be and how easy of a fix it could be?
    Definitely not a common problem. There's a cable that connects the interior handle to the latch assembly, I'd check of its connected to the handle. You'd have to remove the door panel.

    2. I see in pictures of others that the cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel in the pictures of the one I am getting they are not located on the steering wheel, what is the difference, is this some sort of an option package?
    '98-'00 Sevilles had different steering wheels. The cruise control controls were on a still on the steering column. Do either it's not an '01, or somebody's replaced the wheel.

    3. Does it have automatic headlights?
    Yup. All Cadillacs gave for many decades.

    4. What should I look for before buying?
    Same things you would want to look at on any used car.

    The car has a built in code reader. See the "sticky" thread at the top of the Eldorado/Seville page on how to pull DTCs.

    In the test drive, drive it HARD, lots of WOT. If the temp needle moves more than a couple of "ticks" above the 12:00 position, walk. If the salesman complains, walk.

    Make sure everything works. Press every button, switch, and lever in the car.

    If you don't know how to do a thorough pre sale inspection, take it to a GOOD shop, and have them do it. Maintenance/repair costs will reflect the $60,000 new car price, not the used car lot price. You don't want to get stuck with one that's been neglected or that's ready for a lot of work.

    Oops, Dennis beat me.

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Dennis,

    Thank you very much. I knew there would be some nice person to help. I will post if I do get it and let every one know all I found when I check it out.

    Thanks agin,
    James

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    Thank you very much.

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Quote Originally Posted by jameslaz View Post
    Hi All,
    I hope to be a new Cadillac owner tomorrow going to go get a 2001 Seville STS with 86k miles. I have a few questions if someone would be so kind as to lend their knowledge. This is what I know about the vehicle so far. Power windows do not work and from what I understand this is a very common problem and I think I can replace the regulators on my own.
    Here are my questions.
    1. The driver door can only be opened form the outside, any idea what this could be and how easy of a fix it could be?
    2. I see in pictures of others that the cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel in the pictures of the one I am getting they are not located on the steering wheel, what is the difference, is this some sort of an option package?
    3. Does it have automatic headlights?
    4. What should I look for before buying?
    Once I get it I will have more questions I am sure so thanks in advance for any help and or advice.
    Thanks you,
    James
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    Power windows do not work and from what I understand
    this is a very common problem

    actually - this is NOT a common problem in a Seville -

    The driver door can only be opened form the outside
    small operating rod popped off -
    there is a plastic retainer that probably broke -
    remove the door panel - fix or replace the rod -

    I see in pictures of others
    that the cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel
    in the pictures of the one I am getting
    they are not located on the steering wheel

    if the CC button is NOT on the steering wheel -
    it is NOT the correct Cadillac steering wheel -

    there are actually 2 CC buttons -
    the CC ON/OFF button is the lowest one on the left side -

    the SET/RESUME button is the lowest one on the right side -



    Does it have automatic headlights
    YES - TWILIGHT SENTINEL -
    notice the light switch to the left of the steering wheel in the pic above -

    the slider is the auto headlight switch -

    any position to the right of off is auto mode -

    the slider is the timer for how long the lights remain on after engine is shut off -

    What should I look for before buying?

    check for Diagnostic Trouble Codes -

    if you don't know how - go here and read the ENTIRE post -

    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...odes-dtcs.html

    if you have any codes - post them here -
    ALONG WITH THEIR DEFINITIONS -
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    suspension parts - IE - struts and rear shocks are STUPID EXPENSIVE -
    $750 to $900 EACH - plus labor -
    YES - $4000 if you need both front and rear -
    so - pay close attention at "C" codes -

    if you see the code P0741 - WITHOUT the P1860 -
    it is a common and expensive - $2500 - trans problem -
    and you will not pass an emissions test with that code -

    take it out on a "TEST BEAT" - AND DO NOT BABY IT -
    if the temp gauge moves off the 12:00 position -
    INSIST on a BLOCK TEST -
    failed head gaskets are less common since 2000 - but the problem still exists -
    it is a $2500 to $3500 repair -

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    86,000 miles is close to that "magic" 100,000 mile mark -
    when stuff seems to wear out -

    2nd set of tires - 2nd brake job etc -

    speaking of tires - note the current brand -
    if they are el-cheapos -
    you must wonder what else the previous owner cheaped-out on -

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    check the maintenance records -
    if coolant hasn't been replaced - it is WAY overdue -
    and a sign of neglect -

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    bottom line is this -

    Cadillac Seville STS's are REALLY CHEAP to buy -
    and are REALLY EXPENSIVE to own - maintain and drive -

    these cars were $55,000+ when new -
    the cost of maintenance will reflect THAT price -
    NOT the couple thousand dollar price you are buying it for -

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    be sure to get 2 remote key fobs with the car -
    YES - you can buy them pretty cheap on ebay -
    $25 to $35 each for new - as cheap as $10 to $15 for used -
    HOWEVER - it takes a trip to the dealer - $50 to $100 to match them to the car -

    if it has an aftermarket stereo - WALK AWAY -

    if it has the factory navigation radio -
    be sure you get ALL the CD's -

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    make sure ALL dash lights work -

    pay particular attention to the switches on each side of the cluster -
    the dash pad needs to be removed to replace the bulbs -

    also verify all the steering wheel switches light up -

    I'm sure some other members will add to my list -

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    Here's the pre '01 wheel. You can see the cruise lever through the wheel on the right:



    Not the drivers door, but you can see the cable for the door handle sticking up:


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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Basscatt,
    are you sure the 2001 only had that steering wheel? I'm pretty sure, well for the export models atleast, there was an option for either the steering wheel the picture provided called Steering Wheel Deluxe. If your car didn't have the option, you had the steering wheel as in '99 till '00. It was option N30.

    Mines a 2001, with the N30 option so it looks like:


    Also James, if you want to be sure if it's an 2001, check the VIN. I believe it was the sixth digit that tells you what year it was built. But I will be corrected if I'm wrong

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    10th Digit of the VIN

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Quote Originally Posted by DJP1990 View Post
    Basscatt,
    are you sure the 2001 only had that steering wheel? I'm pretty sure, well for the export models atleast, there was an option for either the steering wheel the picture provided called Steering Wheel Deluxe. If your car didn't have the option, you had the steering wheel as in '99 till '00. It was option N30.

    Mines a 2001, with the N30 option so it looks like:


    Also James, if you want to be sure if it's an 2001, check the VIN. I believe it was the sixth digit that tells you what year it was built. But I will be corrected if I'm wrong
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    there were only two steering wheels available -
    N30 is the RPO code for the wood trimmed - or DELUXE - steering wheel -

    other than the wood trim -
    the steering wheel and switches were the same -

    EXCEPT -

    the 2002+ models have a CALL/END button
    as the middle button on the left side -
    connected to ON-STAR -

    pre 2002 models have a fan speed control button in that place -

    here is the base steering wheel - without the airbag installed -
    note the lack of wood trim -


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    The call/end button is '02+. '01 US cars have a fan speed button as well.

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    The call/end button is '02+. '01 US cars have a fan speed button as well.
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    I stand corrected - -

    see - THAT'S what happens when we/I ASSUME -

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Safe to say that the OP is looking at a 2000 in stead of a 2001 STS.

    James, take a look at the VIN. I believe it was the 10th digit to see what year it was built in.

    If it is an '00, I'd do the WOT's for sure!

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    I stand corrected, '99 were the worst year.

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    '99's are the worst year, according to an unscientific poll on this site.

    In '00, changes were made to the block casting process, and a switch was made to longer head bolts.

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    Where is the OP located? If I remember correctly, based on posts in this forums, it turned out that in some countries Cadillacs form the previous year were sold and titled as new year models. I am not going to be surprised if the car is actually a 2000 even though the title says 2001.

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    Re: Soon to be New Cadillac Owner, Buying a 2001 Cadillac Seville STS (86K Miles)

    True, same goes for where I live and I've been through it just like you mentioned. Saw an '01 SLS, but when looking at the VIN it turned out to be a '98!!!

    That's why the OP should look at the VIN.

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