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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Can you post a pic of the WP tensioner that you have in your car? You have posted pics in the past, so I know you can do that part, but you have mentioned it was half there, or melted or something, but you say the belts is spinning. It must make a thumping sound or something when the belt spins around an out of round tensioner. things aren't really adding up to me right now..................................Thx

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Is the tensioner pulley spinning as well as the belt?

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Let me go grab my tools, off the guard and take some pics.

    Tensioner Beltjpg.jpg

    Where the blue arrow is pointing, is where the debris from photo 2 was easily pushed off with the guard off.

    Debri off of blue arrowjpg.jpg

    This is what came off from the blue arrow in photo 1. It chipped off easily, and is definitely more plastic feeling than metal.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    that's the tensioner and pulley the arrow is pointing at

    the debris is probably part of the pulley
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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    The debris is the melted (plastic) tensioner pulley ball bearing cage.

    3-rib pulley can be replaced if the tensioner spring arm is good - NAPA or RockAuto (Car, year, model, engine, "belt drive"). If you need the whole tensioner assembly, talk to Chris at Rippy Cadillac parts.

    PRAY that the main drive pulley - pressed TIGHTLY onto the intake cam extension - is good and true. That pulley takes special remove and install procedures.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by Submariner409 View Post
    The debris is the melted (plastic) tensioner pulley ball bearing cage.

    3-rib pulley can be replaced if the tensioner spring arm is good - NAPA or RockAuto (Car, year, model, engine, "belt drive"). If you need the whole tensioner assembly, talk to Chris at Rippy Cadillac parts.

    PRAY that the main drive pulley - pressed TIGHTLY onto the intake cam extension - is good and true. That pulley takes special remove and install procedures.
    Thank you. I will look into this and report back eventually.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    ACDelco #38025 is the pulley-only part number

    it crosses over to numerous other aftermarket brand numbers
    if your local parts guys can't get that one then ask them to try and cross it to a brand that they can get or do have in stock
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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by RippyPartsDept View Post
    ACDelco #38025 is the pulley-only part number

    it crosses over to numerous other aftermarket brand numbers
    if your local parts guys can't get that one then ask them to try and cross it to a brand that they can get or do have in stock
    Thank you Chris.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Very entertaining thread to read and def the longest i have ever seen. But as Ranger said, it comes down to either you "got it or don't" and seeing as me and the OP are the same age (22), I'm more mechanically-inclined as I've been through the same stuff with my 99sts..replaced engine, new waterpump, thermostat, etc. Hope everything works out RK but I think you paid too much for the car to begin with...

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    The tensioner pulley (or the tensioner itself) is bad and definitely needs to be replaced first. That will make your car overheat quickly if it fails.

    The next most important thing is to do the block test. If the head gasket is bad, then anything else that you do to the car will be a waste of time and money.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by 98cadillac View Post
    The tensioner pulley (or the tensioner itself) is bad and definitely needs to be replaced first. That will make your car overheat quickly if it fails.

    The next most important thing is to do the block test. If the head gasket is bad, then anything else that you do to the car will be a waste of time and money.
    Yea. I just wanted to get coolant flow back.

    You're telling me the melted off pulley will make the car overheat if it's gone? That's interesting. I've been diggin' around compiling a list of everything that was wrong, discovered, and fixed on the car.

    Honestly, I think I am going to do what the guy did to me. Post a CL ad "Oh yea, no mechanical errors whatsoever! Come get this awesome car so I can get it off my hands and not give any thoughts about you or whatever situation in life you're currently in. At least I got money!'

    But yea, sigh. I should have gotten a block test when I got my battery charged, but I forgot and was on a timeline. Oh well, you win some and you lose some.

    I don't think it's a "you got it or you don't" kind of mentality when it comes to mechanic work or cars in general. I think life itself is a 'you got it or you don't'. You can learn anything if you want to learn it. You can do anything if you want to do it. It applies to everything, not just cars. It may take a bit longer starting from scratch but it's honestly not that hard. A little perspective, a lot of watching, and some hands on work, and I'm on my way. Too many unintelligent people walk around which gives little light to 'you got it or you don't' for whatever subject they seem to have entered. That's just not the way I look at it. It takes me some time when I do something from scratch, but I end up being incredible at it.

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    Worn or damaged wp tensioner pulleys are somewhat rare. I did see 2 caddys last week with broken cam pulley. Now that is an even more rare issue. Fixing ur tensioner is not hard. If the bearing is shot I would expect noise that would be hard to miss if you looked at motor during test drive.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by stoveguyy View Post
    Worn or damaged wp tensioner pulleys are somewhat rare. I did see 2 caddys last week with broken cam pulley. Now that is an even more rare issue. Fixing ur tensioner is not hard. If the bearing is shot I would expect noise that would be hard to miss if you looked at motor during test drive.
    Yea. Since I don't know what a normal one looks like it is hard for me to piece together how it would affect the flow of coolant. And if that's not affecting it, what is. The coolant level is fine, but there is nothing coming out of any of the surge tank areas or purge line areas.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by rkeating09 View Post
    Yea. I just wanted to get coolant flow back.

    You're telling me the melted off pulley will make the car overheat if it's gone?...
    Yes, and it will make it start overheating almost right away. This is what gives me a little hope that the overheating may not be a bad head gasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoveguyy View Post
    Worn or damaged wp tensioner pulleys are somewhat rare. I did see 2 caddys last week with broken cam pulley. Now that is an even more rare issue. Fixing ur tensioner is not hard. If the bearing is shot I would expect noise that would be hard to miss if you looked at motor during test drive.
    Mine seized, so I don't think issues with it are necessarily rare if it is the original tensioner/pulley. I doubt that it would happen again for a long time after it was replaced, though.

    When mine seized, I heard a chirping noise for about 1-2 minutes beforehand.

    The broken cam pulleys were probably caused by someone trying to take it off with the three pronged pullers (whatever they're called) instead of the proper power steering pulley puller.

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    Re: New to Cars in General, have a 95 Eldorado, plethora of problems, help?! D:

    @98Cad

    I've had small revivals of hope about the head gasket since starting this thread. It doesn't drive like there's a blown headgasket. Just no coolant flow. There's never been any white smoke coming out of the back, the oil doesn't look milky, I've looked at all the signs of one, and I don't fit the criteria, but you never know unless you know, yea?

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