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Cadillac Seville / Cadillac Eldorado Forum Discussion, '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by N*Caddy To pay somebody to do it for you is about $50 each strut, to do it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by N*Caddy View Post
    To pay somebody to do it for you is about $50 each strut, to do it yourself is about 1h of your time and $60 on a drill+$6 on a adapter and $5 on a set of 4 grinding wheels. Best part is you get to keep the drill.
    Do not try with a torch, you will burn the paint on the shock bracket and the rubber bushing underneath. The problem with a vise grip holding the top of the shaft is not enough grip and you damage the treads on top of the nut so once the nut starts going up on you get it stuck. You will not have enough space to put the vise grips underneath the shaft.
    Im doing the rear shocks, not the struts. Ive a large pair of channel locks on the shock and using vice grips on the nut. But i might have to throw in the towel here, this nut is almost impossible to get off and ive loosened some tight one in my time (water crossover) and this one tops em all so far. I think this thing is over torqued by some dumbass back in the day

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    Have you tried a breaker bar?

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Yeah I know is the shocks, I was talking about shocks.
    Is actually not overtorqued, is just seized (rust).
    If you will have proper grip you will be surprised how loose actually is.

    The reason the T50 doesn’t really work is a combination of:
    1. Rust
    2. Dirt in the hole
    3. T bit not inserted deep enough because of 1 and 2 so it gets stripped.

    A el-cheapo bit (like Mastercraft, Husky, Kobalt) will strip itself, a expensive one (BluePoint, SnapOn) will strip the shaft. The key is insert as deep as possible (and it actually goes pretty deep - it needs to).

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    Blonde moment (im told at work im allowed one a day) it wasnt rusted on their, it was that the shaft was spinning as well. And then i look at the new shock and the lulight bulb turned on, the god damned T50 bit! P3opped it on, turn it the opposite direction of the nut, and voila that bitch came off. So tomorrow will be easier onnthe otjer side, now that i know what to do. Lol!

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Pics!

    Left Rear: out and replaced



    Right Rear: Out and replaced


    Old on left, new on right


    and installed


    Now to remove the front struts. Any tips? Ive alldata to help in the process. A shop says they'll transfer the springs to the new struts for $30

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    Fronts are pretty straight forward, nothing special but make sure you have a socket big enough for the knuckle bolts.

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by STS_Seville_Hunter View Post
    Fronts are pretty straight forward, nothing special but make sure you have a socket big enough for the knuckle bolts.
    Ok. What size?

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Hopefully those who have been following this thread will still see this post even though the thread's gone somewhat off topic.

    Anyways...FINAL CONCLUSION (drum roll please):

    The Monroe 90011 Front Strut conversion kit WAS in fact installed incorrectly on my car by the aftermarket shop, and then boneheadedly (or intentionally) not caught by the dealer.

    How do I know this?

    Well, I had taken a photo of the upper strut assembly after the install, when the ride height issue was present. It turns out that in that photo (shown much earlier in this thread), there are some distinguishing marks on the side of the upper spring seat plate. I had the plates returned to me by the dealer when they replaced them with OEM parts, and these marks still exist on the plates, so I was able to match them up with the photo and determine the orientation of the plate in question. The plate was installed incorrectly, with it's flat bevel facing rearwards. It should have been installed rotated 90 degrees so that flat bevel faces outwards, towards the wheel, and lined up with the lower seat plates which are attached to the strut. Due to the angled nature of the upper plate, this improper positioning is what was causing the ride height issue.

    I'm currently dealing with the owner of the shop, sending him pictures and a writeup of my findings, so we'll see what happens with that.

    Anyways, case closed. Aftermarket shop techs can't follow simple instructions, dealer techs are either idiots or shady, Bob is more jaded with a much lighter wallet, Monroe is vindicated, and basscat is all that is man.
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    Thanks for the up date on this I've got my kit ordered and read the instructions before I start.

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Anyways, case closed. Aftermarket shop techs can't follow simple instructions, dealer techs are either idiots or shady, Bob is more jaded with a much lighter wallet, Monroe is vindicated, and basscat is all that is man.

    glad it all got resolved -

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    So i didn't have to go with AC Delco for my strut mounts lol, oh well we'll see how it goes.

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by vincentm View Post
    So i didn't have to go with AC Delco for my strut mounts lol, oh well we'll see how it goes.
    Guess not, although you shouldn't have a problem with those.

    If you had gotten Monroe mounts, you would've also had to get Monroe upper seat plates and spring insulators. Everything Monroe above the spring appears to be different from OEM.

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    Just so I am "that guy"
    The factory color for the calipers is black.

    But seriously, I am happy you had it working.

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    Just got my monroe kit in from Amazon. Looks like bascatt was right the kit is packaged in two seperate boxes. So it looks like they are almost ready to sell them individually. Im assuming when the amazon kits are gone the price will go up considerably. So if you're thinking about doing you struts id buy mine now!!

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    Re: '97 Eldo - riding high after shock / strut replacement

    So i finally took it for a ride yesterday since replacing the rear shocks, and i notice a night and day difference already. New struts going on right now. Can't wait, pics to follow
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