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    Bleed Brakes 98 ETC

    Going to replace both front caliper tomorrow (only one is sticking but best practice says do both). My question is about bleeding. I've read here to start at the drivers rear and bleed each caliper rotating counter clockwise. My gut tells me to bleed each caliper as I do them and finish off with the sequence above as the last pass so to speak. Or should I just do both calipers (not bleeding in between) and bleed them once after both calipers are installed. What is the proper way to bleed the brakes when changin both front calipers? As always you guys are great and thanks for any reply.

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    If you don't let the reservoir run dry, you'll only be bleeding the calipers themselves, not the lines or rest of the system. Order is irrelevant. If the reservoir does run dry, you'll have to bleed all 4.

    On most modern brake systems, the calipers are plumbed individually, sequence does not matter, even if the system is run dry.

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    Re: Bleed Brakes 98 ETC

    Generally you start at the farthest from the MC (RR), and move forward from there, LR, RF and finally the LF.

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    Re: Bleed Brakes 98 ETC

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    Generally you start at the farthest from the MC (RR), and move forward from there, LR, RF and finally the LF.
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    Yeah, that's what I do out of habit, but in many vehicles, it's irrelevant.

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    Re: Bleed Brakes 98 ETC

    WELL I got 2 calipers on the car, I chose to replace the one that was stuck, bleed it, test drive, came back and did the other, never did the sequence above (I'm going to change back pad this week and will do it then. I put new pads on the front also (made me mad the old one's still had lots of meat but I figured it was better to get new). So far so good in the test drives, no more smoke or smell rolling off the right front.

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    The new slide pins (not tapered) that came with the new calipers (cheap Duralast, sue me) would not work with the existing caliper bracket, so i had to use the old slide pins (tapered), they were not pitted so no big deal (I think), perhaps I should have bought new caliper brackets that were an exact match for the new caliper.

    New calipers also came with new boots for the slider bolts. I Knocked the old boots out and tried to install the new one's, I'd say I accomplished 70% of that. I cleaned the channels really good and lubed up the boots metal base and tried to put it in the channel. It went about half way before becoming difficult. I took a rubber mallet and hit it a few times but stopped because I did not want to damage them and saw no progress. Special tool ? Whats the best way to get them in? I left them like they were and installed the slide bolts. Dirt can't get in but they are not installed 100% either. Will the bolts themselves eventually snug the boot base down in the channel ?

    I'm kind of a perfectionist (and you probably should be with brakes), the car stops and the sticking caliper is gone but I would not call the job a 10. Any comments are always appreciated and maybe it can help the next guy with a ratchet set.

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    Re: Bleed Brakes 98 ETC

    Quote Originally Posted by flatback View Post
    WELL I got 2 calipers on the car, I chose to replace the one that was stuck, bleed it, test drive, came back and did the other, never did the sequence above (I'm going to change back pad this week and will do it then. I put new pads on the front also (made me mad the old one's still had lots of meat but I figured it was better to get new). So far so good in the test drives, no more smoke or smell rolling off the right front.

    Issues.
    The new slide pins (not tapered) that came with the new calipers (cheap Duralast, sue me) would not work with the existing caliper bracket, so i had to use the old slide pins (tapered), they were not pitted so no big deal (I think), perhaps I should have bought new caliper brackets that were an exact match for the new caliper.

    New calipers also came with new boots for the slider bolts. I Knocked the old boots out and tried to install the new one's, I'd say I accomplished 70% of that. I cleaned the channels really good and lubed up the boots metal base and tried to put it in the channel. It went about half way before becoming difficult. I took a rubber mallet and hit it a few times but stopped because I did not want to damage them and saw no progress. Special tool ? Whats the best way to get them in? I left them like they were and installed the slide bolts. Dirt can't get in but they are not installed 100% either. Will the bolts themselves eventually snug the boot base down in the channel ?

    I'm kind of a perfectionist (and you probably should be with brakes), the car stops and the sticking caliper is gone but I would not call the job a 10. Any comments are always appreciated and maybe it can help the next guy with a ratchet set.

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    Re: Bleed Brakes 98 ETC

    Your problem MIGHT be that they are Don'tLast parts. I can't ever recall THAT much of a problem with the slide pin dust boots.

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    Pins and boots should interchange between an original and reman caliper. Something's screwy.

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    Exactly what Bass said, can't remember a problem with pins and boots interchanging. I would pick up a set of new dust boots of a better brand and compare to originals. You should not have any differences in pins or boots.

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