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    Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    I'm going to put some EBC Red Stuff pads on my car. I did the rotors a little over a year ago, they probably have about 15K on them. Should I hold off and put new rotors on as well? I'm thinking that I may have problems replacing the rotors if the EBC pads are already broken in. Thoughts?

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Id do both but that's just me, im getting ready to re-do my brakes too, im going to be installing E-Line rotors from R1, ceramic pads and new calipers

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Personally if you're thinking about repalcing the rotors I would do them at the same time myself.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    EBC pads come with their proprietary "Brake-In" coating on the pad faces. It's an abrasive compound that rapidly beds in both the rotor and pad, wears off after about 100 miles of break in, and during that time you'll feel a lot of strange grinding and odd noises. After break in the setup is glass smooth.

    As others posted, I would recommend replacing the entire brake set with new materials. Take a look at EBC Black Dash Ultimax rotors and Redstuff ceramic pads. I use them - glass smooth, dead quiet and powerful brake set. The black zinc coating wears off the braking surface and the rest of the rotor will not rust.

    www.placeforbrakes.com ......... Discount banner and free shipping - that makes a difference with 60 pounds of cast iron.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Thanks! I can't stand the rust on rotors. This car seems to eat them up, must be all the hills in my area. I guess I will hold off and get some EBC rotors as well.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Brakes can get expensive, but all 4 rotors and/or all 4 sets of pads should be from the same manufacturer and of the same materials - that keeps braking effort the same for all 4 wheels ....... Yes, the fronts are used to apply more braking force than the rears...............

    I think you can get a complete set of the pictured brakes for around $460.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Wow! The EBC Black Dash Ultimax are pretty expensive. What kind of life have people been getting out of them? I haven't been happy with the life that I have been getting out of my rotors and I have been buying OEM, which aren't very cheap. If I pay for these EBC ones, I don't want to be doing them again. Also, how is the life on their OEM rotors that aren't slotted? And can those be paired with the Red Stuff pads?

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Brake life depends greatly on your driving habits and location. Brakes are supposed to wear out - look at what they do.

    In my case (fairly rural) the setup shows practically no wear after 2 years.

    Read through their site - it will keep you busy for a while. www.ebcbrakes.com - Automotive, U.S. - and read the links, too.

    (Is Horseheads anywhere near you ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaemish
    can those be paired with the Red Stuff pads?
    Of course.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Thanks Sub, I think I was a little premature in ordering the Red Stuffs. I bought them because I saw that you had them and you always seem to do your homework. The more I am reading though, I'm not hard enough on my car to need them. I'll probably send them back to Amazon and get the Green Stuff and regular EBC rotors instead.

    And Horseheads is an hour away from me. My parents are actually from there.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    Keep the Redstuff.

    I asked about the town because there's a cabinetmaker there, Walt Grenier, who makes speaker cabinets for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Submariner409
    Keep the Redstuff.

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    Keep it even though I only do normal driving? I was just looking to keep the dust off the chrome. I never take the car over 90.

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    They're great pads, and low dusting.

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    Re: Replacing rear pads with EBC - New rotors needed?

    ^^^^ A most emphatic "Yeah, that" to MC's observation - after break-in the Redstuff ceramic pads are essentially "no dust". For me, dedicated wheel cleaning is a thing of the past - my 17's come sparkling clean with the same water, soap, and wool or microfiber mitt I use on the rest of the car.

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