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Cadillac Seville / Cadillac Eldorado Forum Discussion, 2000 STS suspension replasement.... in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; The chances of 2 position sensors failing at the same time is about 0.0%. Its either a wiring issue (hopefully ...
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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    The chances of 2 position sensors failing at the same time is about 0.0%. Its either a wiring issue (hopefully not an issue with the ELC controller) or both of the linkage rods are missing or disconnected and the operating arm is in the full up, or full down position, beyond the normal operating range of the arm. I had the same code show up in my 97 on one of my sensors when the rod came off and the arm got stuck in the full up position.

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    Quote Originally Posted by RippyPartsDept View Post
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    ....is there more diagnosis to do here?
    Absolutely. Much more.

    If the original poster knows what to look for with the connecting rods, he can do that without even getting under the car. Crank the steering wheel full left and the RF suspension position sensor will be visible at the rear of the RF wheel. Likewise, crank the steering wheel full right to get a look at the LF suspension position sensor.

    Examining the wiring will be a little more labor intensive.

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    So I have checked the sensors and the rods are missing on both. Now when I bought this car a year ago they were missing. The car sat for about 3 years. only being run about 3-4 time a year in that period. But both rods are gone. Not sure how. Can I just replace the rods or do I need the whole thing?? I figured the rods aren't replaceable.

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    GM only sells the complete sensor including the rod. Catch someone who is parting out a '98 to '04 model and buy both rods.

    In the meantime, you can kill the codes and associated messages by tying the sensor arms in the horizontal position.

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    we could see the problem discussion moving along here. of course the thread title was very bad. "replace suspension? expensive. after a bit of discussion it turns out both sensor rods are missing. now thats odd. you would think stabilitrak would not like that?

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    Autozone sells fittings called carborator throttle ball joints that you can get to fit on the ball studs on the control arm and the sensor and then you can cut a peice of 1/4" threaded rod to fit between the parts. They come in various sizes 3/16", 1/4", 5/16, 3/8" and are used for connecting carbs to a throttle cable. They are kind of pricey at 9 bucks a peice, but if the only other way to get them is to buy a sensor its way cheaper. Dorman also sells them so you may be able to get some at NAPA, or some other auto parts store as well. Just need to know the ball diameter on the sensor, and control arm. Mr gasket sells a kit with 2 ball joints in it for something like 18 bucks, but I don't know what size it is. Kit number is 3811G

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    Front position sensor links are available separately from the sensors (although new sensors will come with links)

    LH #22196703
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    List Price: $38.18 (each)
    Forum Price: $24 (each)

    Well... now that i've got your hopes up....

    The LH side link is on backorder with no eta for more stock (probably going to eventually become discontinued)
    The RH side link is still available (I see that there's ten available in my local warehouse).

    So, check w/ the salvage yards and see if they'll sell them (and how much for)

    (edit: or use Mark C's suggestion)
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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    Ok I'll check with the salvage yards. @ Stoveguyy...The title is what it is because I initially wanted to see what I could do as far as aftermarket replacement. But as you should know these threads can easily go in another direction.

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    reading through this last post by Jim D makes me wonder about a problem my neigbor is having with his 2002 SLS. The rear ride height is way to high, it looks rediculous it is that hight, yet it seems to be sending some sort of signal to he compressor because it does cycle the compressor in and out from time to time and seems to make very short 'exhaust' attempts from time to time as well. Is the single suspension position sensor something that can be calibrated by removing the attachment link and then doing something with the arm of the 'position sensor' itself?

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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    Sounds like the sensor might be malfunctioning

    i don't think that there's a calibration ... it's a fairly simple system

    one thing to make sure of would be that the compressor is exhausting correctly
    (it should throw a code if it isn't)
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    Re: 2000 STS suspension replasement....

    I have a 2001 Eldorado ETC that I just replaced the suspension with aftermarket coils and shocks. All went well and the ride is slightly stiffer but that is what I wanted. I'm going to do the front next. The only thing that I haven't done is remove the fuse for the compressor. Can anyone tell me where it is located on this model?

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