Cadillac Seville / Cadillac Eldorado Forum Discussion, Tie rod end difference in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; So I ordered a set of outer Tie rod ends from rock auto.
I got the MEVOTECH MES3452
I went ...
So I ordered a set of outer Tie rod ends from rock auto.
I got the MEVOTECH MES3452
I went to put them on and I noticed that they were considerably shorter than the existing tie rod ends, so I did not make the switch. I wanted to ask about it first. How big of a difference will this make? It seems to be about an inch shorter for the connection to the inner tie rod. I am almost certain an alignment would be in order after a replacement like this. I was hoping that they would be almost exactly the same as stock and would not have to do alignment.
I just ordered new bearings, cv assemblies, and stabilizer bar links for the front end. I need to replace all of these and figured I would do it all at once. I hope to figure out the tierods in time for the shipment of other parts and get to work on it ASAP.
Automobile(s): 2002.5 F55 STS/64500mi, 2004 Ford F150 SuperCab4x4
MD Eastern Shore - Kent Island
Re: Tie rod end difference
The new tie rod ends should be very close, physically, to the OEM units. If the tie rod threaded end is appreciably shorter, then you have less "meat" for the adjustment threads to grab. Regardless, a tie rod end change always needs an alignment, at least for toe-in, because it's pratically impossible to measure and replace them to original length specs.
If your original toe-in is about 1/16" - 3/32", then if the new shorter ends require a 1/2" toe-in for them to fit, then kiss your front tires goodbye in a hurry.
I would send the tie rod ends back and get ones that match, I replaced mine and they were exact replacements. Stay with "Moog" brand if you can.
As long as you are doing all of that work you should go ahead and order the sway bar bushings (2 front and 2 rear). You have to remove the front sway bar from the end links to install them anyway and they are rather cheap. These alone made a world of difference in my ride, I had to get the fronts from the dealer though as nobody else carries them. Check the size of your sway bar first.
Also, you can get the rear end links cheap from rockauto and they are an easy install.
You will need an alignment after all of this is done, I dont care how careful you are.
The most important dimension would be the ball tapered fastener. The angle being of most importance. The crown nut able to accept the cotter key. The jam nutted rod fastener(female)needs to be screwed on at the least the diameter of the threaded tie rod end for effective linear thread strength. It's common they are turned on well beyond that threshold for ajustability. I think it's in the neighborhood of 1/2 inch, 9/16, what ever the thread diameter is. The brand you mention I have never heard of and may be fine. My preferred replacement would be Moog.
Rock Auto is awesome! I ordered the bearings, cv halfshafts, and stabilizer bar links for the front end Friday morning and they just arrived about 30 minutes ago. I used standard shipping and got them next day. I have gone through the packages and checked all of the parts. One half shaft came with the spindle nut on it and the other had one loose. The loose nut does not fit. Since I need to go to the parts store for grease and a socket I will just pick up a nut at the store.
I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on the lubricant to use on the splines of the half shaft? A grease for the oil seal meet-up?
Also, what other parts should I replace on the front end that would be critical for the work I am doing? I plan to get replacement shock/struts in a month or so, but for now I need to fix the CV, bearings, stabilizer bar links, and the tie rod ends. There are other bushings in the front end that I can tell will need to be replaced, but they still have some life left in them. I just remembered that Carvone suggested replacing the sway bar bushings while I'm at it, I will look for those as well.
Any other suggested replacements and advice on lubricants to use would be great.