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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

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The codes were

P0327 and P0152 but both said history (?????)

Do you think the High Octane gas could of caused it?

When i try to look up the "codes" on this form, my computer will not open the link.

Oh and one more thing. When we picked up the car, I noticed half of the 3rd brake light (inside the back window) was not working/lit and they had the car-washer kid fix it....new bulb, could he have f'd somthing up electrical??

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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

High octane gas won't cause you any problems... was just trying to save you some $$$. The 2000 and later N* engines will run fine on regular gas.


P0327 = Knock Sensor Circuit Low Voltage

P0152 = HO2S Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1

These are the codes that caused the SES light to come on. Since you just bought the car I would wait for the dealer to call you back to see what they want you to do.
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

Congafulat for new car, and hope to have the problem be solved soon... BTW, how much did you pay for her?
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

What do those codes mean...and can I reset the SES light somhow?

P0327 = Knock Sensor Circuit Low Voltage

P0152 = HO2S Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1

Paid $7325.00......I'll comment on the dealership later today.

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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

Follow the instructions in the sticky and clear the codes. That will turn off the light as long as the faults are not detected again. If they are, then the light will come back on.

Basically they mean that you have a knock sensor and an O2 sensor that are not working right.
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

Ok,

Soooooooooooo, before the (Illinois) dealer called us this morning, I took the gas cap off the car and thoroughly cleaned with “electrical contact cleaner” in the springy-part of the cap, and then lube the gas cap gasket with a rubber lubricant.

Anyhow, then the Toyota Dealer (Illinois) called and said to take it to the local GM dealer and have them scan it to find out what codes it has. He also asked if we stopped for gas before the SES light on last night, and yes we did. The dealership was very nice/supportive.

Now...I get in the car to go to the local GM/Cadillac dealership in town, AND you guessed it, the SES light went off. Ugh!

The people at our dealership were very nice too. I gave them Continental Toyota’s number and told them to contact them for a Purchase Order number before doing any work. So the tech put the scan-tool to our cars computer and said the PO327 Knock Sensor Code was from 1,230 miles ago (history code) so she didn’t think that would code would activate the SES light. WOW, I didn't know the scanner would be that detailed.

The next code PO512 “Starter Request Performance” was from 140 miles ago (drive home last night) and was probably the one that activated the SES. But she, nor the other tech, ever heard of that code. Hmmmmmm.

She said the gas cap code or anything related to the fuel system was not in the history. She then cleared all codes with the scanner.

So I told her to call Continental Toyota, and inform them of the code(s) we did have and that we will dig deeper into it....just so it’s on record for all of us.

Kris and I bought a new gas cap ($22.00) just for peace of mind. I also scheduled a complete transmission flush and filter, and a radiator flush ....again, peace of mind on our part.

I’ll keep all my new fellow forum friends posted of what goes down over the next few weeks. Sorry for all the “babble”.....

Thanks for all the great advise.

And now we are going to put some miles on this thing, talk to you soon!!

Thanks

D&K
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

Is the dealer doing the "flush". I would trust no one else. Read up on trans flushing in the Technical Archives at the top left of this page.
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

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The next code PO512 “Starter Request Performance” was from 140 miles ago (drive home last night) and was probably the one that activated the SES. But she, nor the other tech, ever heard of that code. Hmmmmmm.
Do you think the dealer may have gotten the code number mixed up when they either read it or wrote it down? The code that you pulled on the instrument panel was

"P0152 = HO2S Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1"

They are suspiciously close...

I concur with Ranger on the "Transmission Flush".
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

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Do you think the dealer may have gotten the code number mixed up when they either read it or wrote it down? The code that you pulled on the instrument panel was

"P0152 = HO2S Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1"

They are suspiciously close...
...hmm...P0512 & P0152 could easily be mixed up. Since the codes were cleared out by the dealer, drive the car for a few days and recheck which codes reappear via the OFF/HEATER UP controls.
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

Had the tranny filter changed and total tranny flush plus the cooling system flushed for $275.00 at the dealership. Thye did a free inspection of the overall car and said it looked soilid.

The SES light has not come back on and all seems good. The Toyota dealership were we purchased it was concerned and stuck by us through this all.

We'll post pictures soon.

Thanks to all on this forum

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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

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Had the tranny filter changed and total tranny flush plus the cooling system flushed for $275.00 at the dealership.
I don't believe you can change the filter on this transmission without pulling the transmission out of the car and opening it up. Make sure you change the coolant every 2-3 years. The transmission won't be due again for another 100,000 miles.
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

00 Deville is correct. Two screens in the pan that can get cleaned if need be, but the filter is deep in the trans and only gets changed on tear down.
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Re: NEWBIE...anyone in Illinois help???

The invoice reads: TRANSMISSION SERVICE

FP- NUMBER 24216035 FLTR KIT .................$59.95

FP - NUMBER 20 QTS ATF $1.75 EACH .........$35.00

LABOR $95.00

TOTAL $184.95


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The invoice reads: TRANSMISSION SERVICE

FP- NUMBER 24216035 FLTR KIT .................$59.95

FP - NUMBER 20 QTS ATF $1.75 EACH .........$35.00

LABOR $95.00

TOTAL $184.95


Dale

Now I understand the confusion over whether the "filter" was actually changed. It's a matter of semantics... GM calls part number 24216035 a "filter kit" but it actually doesn't contain the transmission filter. It contains the pan gasket and the left and right scavenge screens and their seals .

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