Remote Start in 2002 Seville STS - Page 2

chubbyranger · #16 (**permalink**) 02-15-08, 06:10 AM

Actually, I just changed my battery a couple weeks ago. And I waited for the car to try and start itself when I reconnected the new battery since there is a sticker under the hood that warns it may do that. Nothing - no reboot, no start attempt, almost acted like a normal car.

And there is a 'key in' input for the ignition; for thise of us who use the exit seat option the seat starts moving as soon as the key goes in and before it is turned.

mikekilpatrick · #17 (**permalink**) 11-17-08, 05:17 PM

Ok, I think this thread got a little bit off topic. Has ANYONE installed SUCCESSFULLY a remote start on a 2002 (probably same for 2000-2004) using the factory FOB, preferably using the gas tank release button?

I found this information talking about a module that eliminates alot of the wiring http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...e+remote+start

I have also heard there is a T harness that makes the install a breeze.

I am looking for an expert install tech or someone that has done this process (with a MINIMUM of wire cutting) and can give me the part numbers, where to get them and a step by step installation process that works!

I would REALLY appreciate the help as winter is coming up soon here in NJ.

Thanks everyone in advance!

mikekilpatrick · #18 (**permalink**) 11-19-08, 01:07 PM

Anyone? Is there Anyone that has done this on a 2000-2004 Seville?

chubbyranger · #19 (**permalink**) 11-19-08, 08:14 PM

I'd suspect the lack of responses is because it has not been done in the way you want to do it. The stopper for me is that you want to use the OEM fob. The OEM fob communicates with the RKE module by RF and the RKE module either sends a ground or +12V signal to the gas door solenoid by wire. Any remote start that I know of is actuated by an RF signal from the aftermarket remote. Unless there is a remote start kit that will actuate on a wire input I'm not sure how you can bridge that gap unless there is a system that will allow you to reprogram the RF receive signal and even then I'd expect there might be a transmit frequency mismatch. Perhaps you could open up an aftermarket kit and find the start relay and actuate that with the RKE gas door line but you'd need to have schematics of the unit to get it right. With the complexity of Cadillac wiring this is not an easy task.

mikekilpatrick · #20 (**permalink**) 11-20-08, 09:06 AM

Ok, I would even consider using a second remote at this point. I did read up that there were kits that allowed you to used your own factory remote, but I would be willing to use a after market one if it met my needs. My main concern is LIMITING or ELIMINATING the cutting of factory wires.

So, Has anyone accomplished the remote starter setup at all?

clok1966 · #21 (**permalink**) 11-24-08, 06:22 PM

Just had one installed by a local guy (astrostart) he had done at least a couple hundred caddies he said. dropped car off and was told would be 2 hours. Got call was having problems. 4-5 hours later was done. He said it didnt work with first 2 modules but third was working, showed me it working. Drove home, next morning nothing. have tried it 4 days, lights blink but no start. he is getting car (after thanskgiving) to see waht he can do. The key behind dash idea... may give that a try if he cant fix it, would hate to, but if i can stick one behind dash (tape it to lock or something?) i would feel safe enough, if they can turn the lock and drive it without a key, guess they are smart enought to get it anyways (car theft inst a real concern here, but broken windows and stollen car steros is). Mine WILL start if key is in ignition, so they key behind dash may just work.

If anybody else has any insight, let me know.

chubbyranger · #22 (**permalink**) 11-24-08, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mikekilpatrick

Ok, I would even consider using a second remote at this point. I did read up that there were kits that allowed you to used your own factory remote, but I would be willing to use a after market one if it met my needs. My main concern is LIMITING or ELIMINATING the cutting of factory wires.

So, Has anyone accomplished the remote starter setup at all?

Mine was already in the car when I got it. I've never had the nerve to check and see if the harness is a spaghetti mess or not. I would expect there should be kits that allow you to bridge into the factory harness much like with aftermarket stereos. Maybe you can get some info at Crutchfield. www.crutchfield.com

mikekilpatrick · #23 (**permalink**) 11-25-08, 08:57 AM

No real luck with crutchfield, they give very "general" information. Really wish we had a Professional installer on this forum that has done a great deal of work with the 2000-2004 Sevilles...

hyperboimmv · #24 (**permalink**) 01-06-09, 02:05 AM

The idea behind using the fuel door release button for the remote start is ingenious, but what happens when you do indeed press the fuel door button? I am going to assume the RKE module communicates through serial to a module that controls the fuel door, so if you tap into the wire for the door, the door will still pop open, unless you disconnect the solenoid, but if you do that, that means the button on the inside won't work either, and you will have to pop open the trunk then pull the leaver?

And to explain it, the Remote Start module doesn't have to learn a new frequency, most have the ability to program a trigger to activate. Which makes me wonder, couldn't you have one that detects three pulses on the positive line of a door lock to start? IE you press the lock button three times either on the remote or the door its self, and the starter kicks in? If that were the case, that would make a sweet pit stop mode... Meaning you press lock on your door three times, take your keys out, and the car stays running. You get out of the car, close the door and lock it with the remote, go do what you need to do, and come back to a running car....

I may have to do something like that... *googles*

Necrosan · #25 (**permalink**) 01-06-09, 03:05 AM

You will need to splice nearly 100% of the time doing a remote start install.
There isnt any easy way to unplug the wires you need to tap in to, thus no way to do it without splicing.
What are you concerned about? I have had a remote start/alarm in my car for over a year now.
Autopage brand, works VERY good. As long as your installer knows what they are doing, you should have no problems.

mikekilpatrick · #26 (**permalink**) 02-02-09, 02:43 AM

THATS the problem, everyonr THINKS they know what they are doing, but dont. Circuit city butchered my friends lexus and even screwed up the 2000.00 headlight that turns in the direction u are turning. now they are out of business and he is out of luck! That install was with the master installer who was SURE he would have no problems!!! you would think living 8 miles from philly, one could find someone that knew what they were doing

dkozloski · #27 (**permalink**) 02-02-09, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mikekilpatrick

THATS the problem, everyonr THINKS they know what they are doing, but dont. Circuit city butchered my friends lexus and even screwed up the 2000.00 headlight that turns in the direction u are turning. now they are out of business and he is out of luck! That install was with the master installer who was SURE he would have no problems!!! you would think living 8 miles from philly, one could find someone that knew what they were doing

Take your car to Auto Trim Design in Fairbanks, Alaska for a professional install.

finerwoodworking · #28 (**permalink**) 02-02-09, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dkozloski

Take your car to Auto Trim Design in Fairbanks, Alaska for a professional install.

LOL
Cool allways wanted to go to Alaska, road trip in the cady. Honey the guys on the forum said we need to bring the car to Alaska to get it fixed, think that will go over

mikekilpatrick · #29 (**permalink**) 02-10-09, 05:57 PM

Yeah a 6000 mile round trip is a bit much to get a remote starter in a 2002 cadillac seville sts. There has got to be a better way!

dalamak · #30 (**permalink**) 03-19-09, 01:02 PM

Bought a 2001 SLS, and the factory remote it came with wasn' working, checked around and the BCM was unplugged plugged it in and it worked fine,

in changing out the radio for an aftermarket unit, I say there was some ignition splicing and a EXpress kit Bypass. I'm assuming the car had Remote start installed, where should I look for the reciver module.

Would the BCM be unplugged because of the remote start module?