Looked/test drove an 02 STS today - Page 2

turnne · #16 (**permalink**) 11-11-07, 06:17 PM

ahhh...I think I understand

funny thing I was thinking it rode a little softer than the 2001 4.0 Aurora that I have now..however I have had new rear shocks and front structs put on it

Interesting thing about the Seville I noticed yesterday...there was an open space near the sunroof buttons...I thought it looked a little strange
maybe a place to put sunglasses?

but after looking at some pictures of other STS's this was the space where the homelink transmitter buttons are supposed to be

It was completely open space

really I don't case as I have a couple of extra garage door openers I can use...and perhaps thats anothet subtraction in the price

but anyway I it was funny

so if this thing has magride and no active struts like the older ones....what does that mean for maintenance and repair issues?( if needed)

Warren

submariner409 · #17 (**permalink**) 11-11-07, 06:36 PM

It does have active suspension, struts and all, moreso than CVRSS.......no real maintenance, but scary replacement costs.

CadillacSTS2003 · #18 (**permalink**) 11-11-07, 06:43 PM

last time i checked the magride struts are actually CHEAPER than the CVRSS, not by much but still though...

submariner409 · #19 (**permalink**) 11-11-07, 07:05 PM

2003...Yep, close, but still scary !!!

turnne · #20 (**permalink**) 11-11-07, 07:30 PM

and would you call scary?

and keep in mind the resale value of this car...lol

by the way i just looked at extended warranty prices to cover this car for 3 years up to 100K total ...35% of the cars value..lol

Warren

**Ranger** · #21 (**permalink**) 11-11-07, 10:20 PM

Sub, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the fluid viscosity is varied by the amount of current applied, no? I got the impression you are saying it is liquid or jelly with no in between.

Warren,
The MagnaRide struts are cheaper than the old CVRSS struts though I don't know how much. The CVRSS struts where $700-$1000 each as I recall depending on where you got them.

**Playdrv4me** · #22 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by turnne

and would you call scary?

and keep in mind the resale value of this car...lol

by the way i just looked at extended warranty prices to cover this car for 3 years up to 100K total ...35% of the cars value..lol

Warren

Be careful too, alot of the cheaper ones will exclude seals and gaskets coverage or throw other loopholes in there.

vacuumbed · #23 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 01:04 AM

Wow...$700 to $1,000 each. Do they wear out after 150K miles or are you usually good for the life of the car?

**Playdrv4me** · #24 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 02:06 AM

They definitely wear out anywhere between 90 and 150k miles. Gradually youll start getting more of a thud and loss of compliance and just a generally unpleasant and poorer handling ride. Sometimes they go longer, but just plan on having this be replaced at some point.

**Ranger** · #25 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 02:50 AM

Another reason why I wanted the SLS when I bought the last car, passive struts. Also glad my DHS has them. That said, Magnaride is very simple. No valves to fail. Should be cheaper and much more reliable.

**Playdrv4me** · #26 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 02:56 AM

So the SLS and DHS have ELC but a passive suspension?

That DOES definitely give the SLS one positive for me. I think I had heard that before but forgot about it. Ill have to keep that in mind if I come across a really pretty SLS.

vacuumbed · #27 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 04:32 AM

So it would cost over $4,000 to replace the struts on a 2003 Seville STS with Magnaride?

turnne · #28 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranger

Sub, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the fluid viscosity is varied by the amount of current applied, no? I got the impression you are saying it is liquid or jelly with no in between.

Warren,
The MagnaRide struts are cheaper than the old CVRSS struts though I don't know how much. The CVRSS struts where $700-$1000 each as I recall depending on where you got them.

that is scary...I looked at Rock Auto's pricing on the magride ones...836.00 each or so as I recall...and yes the other ones were more expensive by about 100 each

My question is how long do these generally last?...80..100...120K miles

You can understand me if I say that I would have a real hard time investing $2500 in the suspension on a car that is perhaps worth $5000

Warren

Cadillacboy · #29 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 10:22 AM

Enjoy it .Scary or not I think it's worth it lol

**Playdrv4me** · #30 (**permalink**) 11-12-07, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by turnne

that is scary...I looked at Rock Auto's pricing on the magride ones...836.00 each or so as I recall...and yes the other ones were more expensive by about 100 each

My question is how long do these generally last?...80..100...120K miles

You can understand me if I say that I would have a real hard time investing $2500 in the suspension on a car that is perhaps worth $5000

Warren

Warren,

I used to have that attitude on these cars too, but the truth is you simply can't look at it like that.

It really comes down to how much you love the car and whether there is anything else out there that would satisfy you in a similar way for such little money. The Northstar headgasket repair is the biggest one of these, the suspension you usually wont get hit with all at the same time, and 02 Northstars arent really known for HG issues, at least we aren't seeing them yet.

The bottom line is, you are buying a 55000.00 car for anywhere between 10 and 25 percent of its original value (depending on what year), HOWEVER those PARTS costs are still the same parts costs of a 55000.00 car. You have to just let it go when you need something fixed because your not going to be able to do EVERYTHING on the car for that same 10-20 percent of the MSRP.