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Old 03-19-07, 11:14 AM
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Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

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My new-to-me early STS has the apparently common moisture in the tails problem. It's also a [Sapphire Blue?] color and, patriotic or not, I've never liked red and blue together.

So I'm going to tint the tails and LED CHMSL with an outdoor vinyl designed for lit sign applications (which means it will let light through fine and most likely will outlast the car). While I'm at it, I'm also going to cut bits to cover the yellow signals on the front corners.

Once done, I'll have the design and can duplicate them easily. Would there be any interest in a kit like this?
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Yes, I would.
After you've completed the process would you:
a)post pics
b)quote a price
..thanks...
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

I have tint spray, but YES I would be fairly interested in seeing what it looks like and if it looked good and was an easy application then I would consider looking at the price.
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Very interested. Would you also do a vinyl for the high mount led taillight? I'm not interested in the front corners though as I've already cleared those myself and prefer that look. Thank you
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Interested in seeing photos. Do you have any photos of other car's that have this same application done?
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

I've been wanting to tint my tails and I was gonna wait until some nice weather came around. Also was thinking about doing my headlights too, or at least my sidemarkers. I'd be very interested in seeing how this comes out, I'd lay down the money for it if it looked good.
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

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I've been wanting to tint my tails and I was gonna wait until some nice weather came around. Also was thinking about doing my headlights too, or at least my sidemarkers. I'd be very interested in seeing how this comes out, I'd lay down the money for it if it looked good.
I wouldn't do the headlights. Trust me on this one.
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Haha, have a bad experience? What I was thinking about doing was opening the headlamp case up and painting the inside surfaces black, the ones that aren't supposed to be reflective. I haven't looked at them all that much yet to even see if that's completely possible, but that's what I had on my mind.

On a side note, regarding the side markers, as anyone taken them apart and just pulled the orange piece out and then put it back together?
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

I would def buy a set for my 94 sts. Do it up brother.
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Made templates, worked up a cut program, and made the test set this weekend.

Comparison pic:
(I know this pic is poor, I'll get better ones in better lighting once they're done and on the car)







Turned out virtually indistinguishable from spray tint and gives you a more even tint than all but the most professional paintjobs.

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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

I like the look of it. How do you apply this stuff, and how hard is it to remove? And is this something that a carwash would spray off or something like that?
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Basic Vehicle Wrap Tutorial

Wrapping early STS tail lamps.
Items Needed:
-Vinyl kit from 8th Day Creations
-Scissors
-Needle or Xacto knife
-Application Fluid (Rapid Tac or a drop of dishsoap in a water spray bottle)
-Body filler squeegie (preferrably the gold 3M ones or the felt lined purple ones from Avery)
-Heat Gun or Hair Dryer
-Patience


First, start by cutting apart your decal kit (they will arrive on a single sheet and will need to be separated). The closer you trim to the decal, the easier the piece will conform to curves, but leave enough around it that you have somewhere to handle the piece without touching the adhesive (very important that you do not touch the adhesive on transparent films). Usually, I leave between 1/8" to 1/4" border, but you may find that you are more comfortable with less or more. You will see that the decal comes sandwiched in between a waxpaper backing and transfer paper on the face (the transfer paper will be either clear plastic or paper tape depending upon the application).

Remove the tail-lamps from the car and thoroughly clean them, removing all dirt, dust, and wax. You may even want to lightly wetsand heavily scratched or damaged lamps with a very fine grit paper or scuff pad. Find a desk or workbench and we're ready to begin.



Remove the waxpaper from the backside of the decal being careful not to touch the adhesive. Spray both the adhesive and surface we are applying the decal to with your application fluid (Rapid Tac or the soapy water mix) making sure to cover both thoroughly. This is so the adhesive will not take hold right away while you are positioning the piece.



Carefully center your decal on the surface, making sure it will cover the area you need it to. There is no rush and do not worry if you need to peel it off and reposition. You can adjust as much as you wish as long as the adhesive stays wet. Spray it again if needed.

Once satisfied, take your squeegie and work the water out from the center. Always work from the middle outwards to the edge so no air bubbles or water solution gets stranded underneath.



Because the tail-lamps are a convex shape made up of multiple curves going in all different directions, you will notice as you work your squeegie that the vinyl will not want to lay flat in many places. Do not worry, this is normal and where your heat gun/ hair dryer comes in (be careful that you do not melt through the vinyl or burn your surface when using a heat gun; on plastic parts I actually prefer to use a hair dryer for this reason).

Heat the areas with the "tunneling" or bends that will not lay flat and slowly work them out with your squeegie. The premium vinyls we use are very conformable, but will take a bit of patience to form onto complex shapes. Take your time and always work from the inside out to the edge. Little by little it will take on the shape you want, but do not rush or crease the vinyl while working it. You will find that some corners or edges are easier to work with your hands, just be careful not to burn yourself.



Once the vinyl has been laid down flat and you have squeezed out all the water and air bubbles, it is time to peel away the transfer paper. Starting in a corner, peel back on the transfer paper slowly while holding down the edges of the vinyl with your other hand. Make sure you pull the paper off (or "roll") parallel to the surface. Pulling away from the surface may pull up the vinyl and/or create air bubbles.



Using your thumb (or kneading rubber), make sure all edges are sealed by massaging along them. Use heat if needed to tighten up edges and corners. On the early model seville lights (as pictured), there are letters denoting light locations molded in the plastic. Hold your heat source over these for a moment and then press down with a finger and the vinyl will conform right to it. Same with sharp edges/corners.



Finally, hold your housing up to a lamp and search it for minute bubbles or creases. Using the tip of your Xacto knife or needle, you can pop any you find and squeeze them flat. Just use the tip and any hole you make will be undetectable.



Finally, clean your car and reinstall. You may want to apply a light wax or a vinyl polish (Meguires makes a good one) over them for a deep shine (Warning as you may end up spending the day trying to polish your car to match the high gloss of your tails ).

Give it a few days in warm weather for the adhesive to cure before power washing your car (hand washing should be fine though). After that, the vinyl is very durable and will hold up better than paint in many situations being resistant to seawater, oils, acids, alkalides, etc.

There you have it. Honestly, it looks more complicated than it really is. The main things required are patience and a weekend afternoon.





If you ever need to remove it (for repairs or returning the car to stock), most of the time all that is needed is a heat gun and slow peeling, but many automotive stores/graphic shops sell chemicals that will eat away the adhesive without damaging your car if more "persuasion" is needed. Just remember to pull the vinyl off parallel to the surface (or "roll" it) so nothing unwanted comes up with it.

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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

Mint, good work. I like it, doesn't seem too bad to do either. Now we just need a few pictures of them on the car, before and after, with the brakes on and off.

I assume you have the trunk lid mounted section of the tail lamp and the CHMSL taken care of as well?
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Re: Interest in tail tint kits for 93-97 Sevilles?

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Mint, good work. I like it, doesn't seem too bad to do either. Now we just need a few pictures of them on the car, before and after, with the brakes on and off.

I assume you have the trunk lid mounted section of the tail lamp and the CHMSL taken care of as well?
I did the CHMSL as well. It's so long, that the easiest way was to cut a 49"x1.5" strip and trim the overlap by running an exacto knife around the edge.

Not sure if that will be included yet though... It's a single 4 foot long chunk off the roll. Even with cutting a bunch of them at once, it's going to be a decent jump in price to include them in a kit.
I'll probably price it as an option. I can precut them to size too, but oversizing and trimming makes it much easier to install (your alignment would need to be near perfect to apply a pre-cut one and I'm trying to make this as user friendly as possible).

I'll try to get pics of the car and pricing up later this week. You won't be disappointed. It cleans up the rear and looks 100% better over the all too busy stock design in my opinion.
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Doing this I found that one of my bulbs is out, so I'll try and get light up pics once I get that replaced.
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