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Talking Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

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It has been done and I have the program.
I need to look at the LS1 program closer and I have contacted a company for some help.
As we all know the 4T80E is a FWD trans and the LS1 is a RWD car. Also I need to look at the way data is transferred between the PCM and the ABS. The other module should be ok, but the PCM ABS has multiple data lines.
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Too bad the Corvette never ran MagnaRide. Because of that this setup will not work on the 02 and 03 STS models with MagnaRide

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Oh wait the Corvette had it First
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

I have an 01.....That would be sweet!
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

that sounds a cool project !
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

i though the STS had it first because it was possible in 02 while the Vette and STS had it standard in 03?
Awesome news though AJ still kickin ass!!!
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

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i though the STS had it first because it was possible in 02 while the Vette and STS had it standard in 03?
Awesome news though AJ still kickin ass!!!
Hmmm
I am sure it was designed for Corvettes. If I find the time I will look it up.
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N* with LS computer!?

OH THE POSSIBILITIES AND DREAMS......
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

Hell yeah I want one if you get it done !
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

I will clue you in on more information.
I did not want to speak out of turn. The Horse and Cart thing.
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This program Originated at GM on a 4.0L with VIN 9 cams in it.
The 4.0L had 250 HP
This program with the intake cams from the L39 VIN 9 made 320 HP
That is a 70 HP gain with just two cams and this program.
This is a 28% gain
Next they ran a Blower on it and made 380 HP out of a 244 CID engine.
Yes it was only 60 more horses, but I think it was close to being tapped out at 320 HP.
That was a 130 HP gain
That is a 52% gain.
Hmmm. 52% gain on a 300 HP Hmmmmmm 456 HP + the increase of cubes from the 4.0L to the 4.6L might squeak out 460+ HP with a blower.

Remember This is a GM setup.


I will post a LINK soon
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

This is a good review.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-series-1.html



This a not so true review, but it sounds a lot better.

Specifications
General
Manufacturer Shelby
Model Series 1 1998
Powertrain Layout Front Engine / RWD
Base Price $174,000

Dimensions
Length 4292 mm / 169.0 in
Width 1943 mm / 76.5 in
Height 1194 mm / 47.0 in
Wheelbase 2405 mm / 94.7 in
Weight 1202 kg / 2,650 lbs
Front / Rear Track F 1509 mm / 59.4 in
R 1534 mm / 60.4 in

Engine
Configuration 4.0 Liter Oldsmobile Aurora Supercharged V8
Valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves / Cylinder
Displacement 3995 cc / 243.8 cu
Power 238.6 kW / 320.0 bhp at 6500 rpm
Torque 393.2 Nm / 290.0 ft lbs at 5000 rpm
Bore 87 mm / 3.4 in
Stroke 84 mm / 3.3 in
Compression Ratio 10.3:1
Bhp / Liter 80.1 bhp
Redline 6500 rpm

Chassis & Body
Body / Frame Aluminium Frame w/ Bonded Aluminium Honeycomb Panel Inserts
Steering Rack & Pinion w/ Power Assist
Brake Type Vented Discs w/ Power Assist & ABS
Brake Size F 330 mm / 13.0 in
R 305 mm / 12.0 in
Wheels F 45.7 x 25.4 cm / 18.0 x 10.0 in
R 45.7 x 30.5 cm / 18.0 x 12.0 in
Tyres F 265/40ZR-18
R 315/40ZR-18

Transmission
Gear Type 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.12:1

Performance
Top Speed 273.6 kph / 170 mph
0 - 62 mph 4.4 seconds
0 - 100 mph 11 seconds
0 - ¼ mile 12.8 seconds
EPA City / Highway 16 / 27 mpg

Then came the Series II plans. If you read the first review you would know that this would never happen.
The Cobra-like Series 2 is the successor to the ultrafast Series 1, which employed a carbon-fiber shell on an aluminum honeycomb frame. Under the hood, a supercharged Oldsmobile DOHC 4.0-liter V8 packed more than 400 horsepower.






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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

So this may look pretty good with this kit added?http://www.angelfire.com/stars/mycad...rgerphotos.htm
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

This is almost done.
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

What do you mean "This is almost done"? ...Where are we with this? really?....
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Re: Running a Northstar on a LS1 PCM.

I have the GM program

I have paid for the Harness and PCM

The harness will be here Monday or Tuesday

I will program the PCM and send it to Bill @ HP Tuners

I will work up Schematics for 93 to 99 cars and 00 to 05 cars

I will program a second PCM and start working with the Class II and UART serial data lines and messages.

Currently this a RWD Manual trans program. I have seen the LS1 Editing files in a demo version that allows you to switch from an Auto to a Manual and viceversa. I hope Bill can do this with this program. This should be no problem because it is an LS1 system.

I can get a stand alone trans controller for about $800. You can run a paddle shifter if you want.

Ok it looks like it is far from done, but it is on the fast track down hill.

I had the program, but they ran two completely different PCM's between 98 and 99. This is a car that has 98 and 99 build history.
I finally got the PCM model year and the part #
I will have the schematic done by the end of next week
The best part
I am getting help from the pro's to finish it. I think that will be the fastest way and the best way.

To me this is almost ready. Remember this is a GM program built by GM for a performance car. Think of it like a Corvette PCM running a Northstar. Wait that is what GM did. Corvettes have all the same models and systems. They even have Magna Ride
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