Cadillac News, Concepts, Future Models, Rumors and more Discussion, Coupe De Thrill in Current Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; For anyone who is a subscriber to, or avid reader of, Motor Trend magazine, this headline will look awfully familiar. ...
For anyone who is a subscriber to, or avid reader of, Motor Trend magazine, this headline will look awfully familiar. That's because it's the cover title for the CTS coupe...at this point the nit pickers and nay sayers of the forum will call for the move to the CTS forum. BUT...the reason I posted this here, is because Motor trend contributor and in some circles considered the best "inside man" Motor Trend has for GM, has hinted in an online interview, that a new high performance model of the new CTS coupe could be badged as a new Eldorado!!!! That is exciting news for those Eldo lovers. I dont know if they will have a V badged car or if the eldo badge would come to pass, but this should be a very good point of speculation.
That would be vomitous news if it were true. The CTC/American Ricer is fine and all, but an ETC it is not. Now, if they want to make a coupe version of the 2010 STS/DTS replacement, then that would be an ETC...
From all the great news I have heard the CTS Coupe IS going into production, and more than likely it will also wear the same beloved V badge as its big brother. THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!!!! Thats gonna be one nasty little car!
Automobile(s): '03 Seville STS, '89 Eldorado, '89 Grand Wagoneer
Re: Coupe De Thrill
Well... the CTC is going to go into production and I'd imagine the speculated convertible and wagon variants will be soon to follow. I think the production car will be similar, but not exactly the same... that is, I feel strongly that they will give the CTC a more formal roofline and less of a "hatch" look as to not offend too many domestic shoppers and to keep it more in line with it's main rival.. the 3-series.
What I'm having trouble understanding is why some are so offended by the notion of this being the modern Eldorado... I hate to break it to you all... but this is the closest thing we're going to get to one and it's going to fill the same slot the Eldo did. Actually... it's a reasonable comparison and fits perfectly within the mold of the old Eldorado... First off, the CTS and the STS share the same platform but the CTS has a wheelbase 3 inches shorter than the STS. The last gen Eldorado shared it's platform with the Seville, but rode on a wheelbase 3 ('92-97) to 4 ('98-'04) inches shorter than the Seville.
So this new coupe will be carrying on the same heritage as the Eldorado... in that it's a 2 door version of a standard Cadillac sedan, riding on a similar platform, but with a shorter wheelbase. You're right... it's not an Eldorado... because the Eldorado is dead, but in spirit it's a totally logical successor to the Eldo. If you don't like the styling, that's fine... just say that... but bby saying that, you must pretty much not like any of the new Cadillacs... but beyond that, this car will follow the same very concept of the Eldo but in a new and totally different era of Cadillacs.
With that said... I generally like it (except for the hatchi-ness of the concept), and it will fit a large gap in the Cadillac lineup.
I've said it before -- I have absolutely no problem w/the CTC in and of itself (other than the G35 fetish of some fool designer). Cadillac would be stupid to not expand on the CTS as much as possible: coupe, convertible, wagon, shortened crossover, SRX replacement, whatever. (And yes...maybe even a smaller version a la 1-Series BMW, for those who like that sort of thing.)
The CTS is a great design to work from and they need as many good models as they can get. BMW has whored out the 3-Series into more variations than you can shake a stick at, and most of them are a success.
And maybe they will change the coupe's final design. If they're smart, they'll stick as close to the sedan roofline as possible. (Both for good taste and continuity, as well as rear seat room.)
Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree, but I don't think you can base an Eldo replacement on or compare it to the current STS, which is "Dead (albeit very nice and will one day be owned by me after having substantially depreciated) Car Walking". The new STS/DTS replacement (which will have to be larger than the current STS if it's going to make any sense at all) will end up as the new top of the line car. Eldo always sat at the top of the line (except arguably until '98+ when it didn't get redesigned w/the Seville).
I mean, just freaking copy the Germans during the '90s: short wheelbase sedan, long wheelbase sedan, coupe (short S, long S, CL) (740i, 740il, 840). They've done it forever. Now admittedly, the BMW 6 coupe is now smaller, and M-B doesn't have a short wheelbase S anymore (at least in the U.S. -- not sure about Europe) but it worked for them for a long time.
My point is that these were not on the lower end of the spectrum when they were introduced: