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Old 12-24-06, 12:18 AM
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2000 Cadillac Seville-April 9, 2006 to December 23, 2006.

My parents 25th anniversary is on Dec 25. My dad was thinking about setting up a vacation for the two of them. But then we started thinking about what to mom could use all the time. New minivan.

Our 1996 Town & Country works great, but has seen better days. Me and my dad use it as our repair truck to maintain the few apartment buildings he has. Its not pleasing to the eyes to say the least.

So we had to decide which one to give up. He said my Eldo, I said hell no! We then said the Seville. I thought about it. It wouldn't be that bad I thought.

After looking around on the internet, we decided on a Honda Odyssey. It was either the Odyssey or the Toyota Sienna. And the Toyota place was not being "friendly" with pricing. The Honda dealership was pretty good, gave us $6K for the Seville. We wanted more (who wouldn't), but after thinking about it, I think we did okay. We bought it for $6,700 in April. Since then we've spent about $500 in fixings and maintenence (trans fluid change, oil changes, brake pads, etc...) (excluding gasoline), so say $7,200 total. The car is developing a tranny problem (jerks from a standstill), burns a quart of oil every week (about 100-200 miles), and isn't great on gas (14 mpg). I am scared s**tless about a head gasket problem with the car (dunno why), it has a battery/charging problem (car dies at idle under heavy electrical load...car must be jumped to start, not related to cps/ckp).

I will miss the car no doubt. Flooring the car wasn't as good as the Eldo, but it moved. But I was able to steal the homelink transmitter out of it for my Eldo (which happens to work!!). I do have some parts laying around for it, hopefully I can sell them. I was estimating, just to get it in a nice cosmetic condition, it would be close to $500. Add the repairs, an easy $1,000. Almost break even, and at least we owned a Seville...the "four door racecar" for our house. I still love that old commercial...

Well, in our driveway is a 2007 Honda Odyssey EX-L. Very well-equpped. Its the level below "Touring" and has rear-seat "entertainment". Its not a dvd system, its an "entertainment" system. :P But its cool, it has rca inputs for video games or anything else. 2 wireless headphones, remote, seperate audio for the rear and front (dvd in back, radio for driver). Lots of other features: 4 power windows (2 front doors, and in both slding doors...I love that!!), power sliding doors, fold flat seats, removable middle seats, heated front seats, 6 cd changer, 3 zone climate control, trac control & stability control (I need to "properly" test those...).

I wish it did have a power tailgate, adjustale pedals, memory seats, 115 volt power, parking sensors. We could have gotten navi, but we actually don't drive to unknow places. Plus my dad's phone, and my phone has navi, and I am upgrading my portable one soon. Rear camera would have been nice too.

It has a 3.5L V6 with a 4 speed trans. I think in this day and age, 5 speeds should be a minimum, but oh well. My dad took it out for a test drive, and halfway through I took over. For a minivan it moves well, but its not rocket. I am used to my Eldo, is what my dad said, and I am. At WOT it was "respectable" to say the least. Though it was surprisingly smooth shifting at WOT.

Financing options sucked (7-9% interest with good credit score-740 or above!!, WTF?!), and leasing was bad too, because according to our math, the $6K for the Seville never showed up... So I moved some money around in the bank and we paid cash (well personal check) for it. Every month we will put $600-700 towards it. This way too we can put any level on insurance on it. I told my dad for the first few years I want comp & collision on it, after that we can drop it. He seemed happy with the whole deal.

We did buy *gasp* an extended warranty. From the factory, it has a 3 year/36K mile bumper-to-bumer and a 5 year/60K mile powertrain. For $1,223, we extended the bumper-to-bumper to 6 year/80K mile, no additional powertrain. We have 3 years to cancel it, but only could add it at the time of sale. I grilled the warranty guy good about terms and policy...all the answers pleased me very much (lemon policy, loaner cars, locations, etc...). I will be looking over the complete terms this week to make sure it is worth it.

With the extended warranty, it came out to about $33,500 including tax, all fees, etc... The Seville was $6,000 off, so the check was about $26,000 plus a charge of $1,223 for the warranty.

My dad hopes, like our last van, this lasts a solid 9-10 years. I think it can, it seems to be built pretty well. Anyone know any trouble spots with this engine or trans, and the Odyssey in general? I know this is a Caddy board, but I refuse to join a Honda board and be bombarded with ricers! Any thoughts on the car, engine & trans, and warranty? Input is welcome from all.

RIP Seville, welcome Odyssey.


Edit: Holy crap that was way longer than I thought it would be...sorry!
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Old 12-24-06, 12:20 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

I chose death before a minivan!
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Old 12-24-06, 12:40 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

Ditto, I hate mini vans*! Mom's friend has an odessey its alright but its still a mini van. I'd rather take the Seville over it anyday!

*I'm cursed with minivans hence why I hate them! Bad things happen to me while I'm in them or driving them.
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Old 12-24-06, 12:45 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

Caddy gone or not, an Odyssey is an awesome choice. I don't have the "minivan disease" some people do, so I'm a huge fan--and you certainly made a good decision.

Also, not sure why or how you're confused, but no Odyssey has had a 4-spd since even the middle of the last gen when it got a 5-spd in 2002. Maybe you just read something wrong?

Terrific build quality, great adaptability, and awesome drivetrain--the Honda is definately still about the best when it comes to vans, and won't at all have the issues or even common bugs like a Northstar FWD Caddy with miles. Honda's 3.5L is one of the best engines out there, from an all around refinement-power-durability standpoint.

Beyond all that, isn't it just nice to have something fresh and new for a change?
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Old 12-24-06, 01:05 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

Good choice on the Honda. If I ever had to get a minivan (heaven forbid) I would definatley get the Odyssey. I remember when we traded in our '01 SLS a couple years ago when we got the Escalade. You hate to let it go, but you're still happy to get something different. Ended up missing it and that's part of the reason why I got my '02

If you got the Toyota I don't think you would be able to post here anymore
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

Odysseys are probably the best minivans out there, that was a good choice as far as vans go.
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Old 12-24-06, 01:19 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

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isnt ur moms van one of those?
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Old 12-24-06, 01:24 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

nope mom has a toyota sienna xle limited edition... are you guys gonna hate me and not let me post coz I have a toyota in my household?
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Old 12-24-06, 01:29 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

I'll add my props for the Odyssey. My sister has an '01, and it's an excellent road trip car. My brother-in-law, my two nieces and one of my nieces boyfriends drove it from North Dakota to Oregon. We added his mom, me and Hoover on some road trips around Oregon and had plenty of room. I drove it back from Grants Pass in Southern Oregon, and it's great on the highway. Excellent power and nice ride, although I can tell the COG is higher than in my Cadillac or Impala.

Your Mom should enjoy it. And of course you still have your Eldorado.
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

I'm with the death before mini-van. I've told my wife several times if I ever start shopping for one, shoot me. Can't deal with it.

I'd love an Astro van in the cargo flavor for work as a service van but NEVER in my life would I own one as a regular vehicle.
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

I work with Mini-vans; Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth, Astro, I'd take a Gremlin before I drove a mini-van as my own vehicle for any reason whatsoever. They are big steaming piles of blah. Little power, bad handling, horrible looks, uncomforable accomodations for fewer people than a better vehicle, and the horrible stigma that wagons had twenty-five years ago -the chosen vehicle of the soccer mom, the emasculated man who is dominated by his wife and sold his beloved Firebird, Conquest, 300ZX, Corvette, whatever, to buy the horrible, banal piece of yuppy family trash that through some twisted societal perception he needs to be a good family man... Me? Hate Minivans? What ever gave you that idea. And a Honda minivan? At least you didn't buy it personally -I think if you did several strange men in white Fleetwoods would confiscate your Eldo...
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Old 12-24-06, 07:16 AM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

All of you guys make me

I kinda like mini-vans. To me, they fill a void that an SUV can't fill. (Semi-)cheap, and comfy, people movers, that get decent mpgs. I would have loved an Envoy, but a mini-van is more practical for us.

Gurl: I hope Stoney doesn't see that!

Cruiser: thanks. I though 4 speeds because I just count the gears in the shifter (always worked before ). I didn't even get to read the manual yet. I will be happy as hell if its 5 speed!

Red: Not my Eldo!!!

Thanks to the rest for the responses!
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Old 12-24-06, 12:09 PM
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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

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nope mom has a toyota sienna xle limited edition... are you guys gonna hate me and not let me post coz I have a toyota in my household?
No, you can still post with a toyota in the household, but that Hyundai

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Re: RIP Seville SLS...

I would never buy a minivan—divorced, no kids—no need for one, but even if I had them, I still wouldn't. Don't car for trucks or SUVs, either. I just like cars.

But for many people, they serve their purpose. And the Odyssey is probably the best one on the market (Buick Terazza, anyone?).
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