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According to these Motor Trend tests, which were the only ones I could find by the way, since you didn't post the actual article or a link, mine are copied from the article, I didn't 'edit' them, the numbers show this;
Compairsion Chart
2004 Dodge SRT-10 Viper 2005 Ford GT
POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS
Drivetrain layout Front engine, rwd Mid-engine, rwd
Engine type 90* V-10, aluminum block/heads Supercharged 90* V-8, aluminum block/heads
Valve gear OHV, 2 valves/cyl DOHC, 4 valves/cyl
Bore x stroke, in/mm 4.03x3.96 / 102.4x100.6 3.55x4.16 / 90.2x105.8
Displacement, ci/cc 505.1/8277 330.1/5409
Compression ratio 9.6:1 8.4:1
Max horsepower @ rpm 500 @ 5600 500 @ 6000
Max torque @ rpm 525 @ 4200 500 @ 4500
Redline rpm 6000 6500
Engine rpm @ 60 mph 1200 1515
Transmission 6-speed manual 6-speed manual
Axle/final-drive ratio:1 3.07 / 1.54 3.36 / 2.12
Suspension, front; rear Upper and lower control arms,coil springs, anti-roll bar, upper and lower control arms, coil, springs, anti-roll bar Upper and lower control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; upperand lower control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Brakes, f/r 14.0-in vented disc, 14.0-in vented disc, ABS 14.0-in vented disc,13.2-in vented disc, ABS
Wheels, f/r 10.0x18; 13.0x19, forged aluminum 9.0x18; 11.5x19, forged aluminum
Tires, f/r 275/35ZR18; 345/30ZR19, Michelin Pilot Sport 235/45ZR18; 315/40ZR19,Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar
DIMENSIONS
Seating capacity 2 2
Wheelbase, in 98.8 106.7
Track, f/r, in 61.6/60.9 63.0/63.7
Length, in 175.6 182.8
Width, in 75.2 76.9
Height, in 47.6 44.3
Turning circle, ft 40.5 40.0
Headroom, in 36.5 35.4
Legroom, in 42.4 44.6
Shoulder room, in 54.1 57.7
Curb weight, lb 3410 3400 (est)
Weight, f/r, % 48/52 43/57
Cargo capacity, cu ft 8.4 n/a
Fuel capacity, gal 18.5 17.5
TEST DATA
Acceleration, sec
0-30 mph 1.7 1.7
0-40 mph 2.4 2.3
0-50 mph 3.0 2.9
0-60 mph 3.9 3.6
0-70 mph 4.8 4.7
0-80 mph 5.8 5.6
0-90 mph 7.0 6.5
0-100 mph 8.4 8.1
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 11.77 @ 123.63 11.78 @ 124.31
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 97 111
600-ft slalom, mph 70.4 71.5

2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
Base price $65,800
Price as tested $65,800
Vehicle layout Front engine, RWD, 2-pass, 2-door coupe
Engine 7.0 L/505 hp/470 lb-ft, OHV 3 valves/cyl V-8
Transmission 6-speed manual
Curb weight, F/R dist 3147 lb, 51/49%
Wheelbase 105.7 in
Length x Width x Height 175.6 x 75.9 x 49.0 in
0-60 mph 3.5 sec
Quarter Mile 11.5 sec @ 127.1 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 104 ft
Lateral Acceleration 1.05 g avg
EPA City/Hwy Fuel Econ 19 / 28 mpg


So to sum it up;

0-60 1/4
Vette 3.5 11.5/127.1

GT 3.6 11.78/126.7
My bad for not posting a link. But the main reason I didn't copy and paste is because of what it comes out like when you paste it on here. Because what you posted I have no idea as to what it is supposed to be showing. There's just crap all over the place. Here's a link to an article Motortrend did when they compared the Viper vs. the Ford GT http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html notice that the GT they tested was a test mule and not the actual production car and it didn't have the extra 50 hp that the production model had and it still ran a 11.78 @ 124.31 mph. Here's a link to the article from Motortrend with the Ford GT vs. Ferrari Enzo vs. Porsche Carrera GT http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...pe_comparison/ Hey Randy didn't you post this up before?

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The GT has 6.6 lbs per h.p. using the old SAE horsepower standard (more like 7.0 using the new standard the Vette is rated by), while the Vette is 6.2 lbs per h.p.
Well here's the actual numbers


Corvette Z06
Weight: 3147 lbs
HP: 505
lb/hp: 6.2

Ford GT
Weight: 3468 lbs
HP: 550
lb/hp: 6.3

These numbers are directly from Motortrend also.

So in your words Randy.......

To sum it up:
Z06 = 11.5 1/4
Ford GT = 11.1 1/4

GT > Z06
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notice that the GT they tested was a test mule and not the actual production car and it didn't have the extra 50 hp that the production model had and it still ran a 11.78 @ 124.31 mph.
That's right, it is a test mule and you will notice that it's at least 1/2 sec quicker than any production model and means nothing when comparing to true production cars. All the 'real' GTs have been slower in every test run, than the Z06 except for top speed, where very few of us spend much time, though 205 mph is impressive. Using test mule numbers is grabbing at straws, face the facts, you can't buy the 'test mule' at the local Ford dealer, the GT you can buy will get beat by your neighbor's Z06!
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Re: Video Repost?? C6 ZO6 vs Ford GT

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That's right, it is a test mule and you will notice that it's at least 1/2 sec quicker than any production model and means nothing when comparing to true production cars. All the 'real' GTs have been slower in every test run, than the Z06 except for top speed, where very few of us spend much time, though 205 mph is impressive. Using test mule numbers is grabbing at straws, face the facts, you can't buy the 'test mule' at the local Ford dealer, the GT you can buy will get beat by your neighbor's Z06!
Are you really that much of an idiot or are you just that far up GM's ass that you can't read the words in front of your face. Look at the article with the Enzo GT and Carrera GT and then talk crap. Look at the lap numbers I posted in the 3 way comparison between the GT, Z06 and SRT-10 Viper. The GT was the fastest around the track, the fastest 0-60 but yet the GT lost out to the Z06 in 1/4? I think that was driver error to be honest but either way they tested the GT before in the 3 way supercar test and it ran a 11.1

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I must be, i keep talking to you!
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Re: Video Repost?? C6 ZO6 vs Ford GT

Bottom line: Who gives a rats ass?. Both cars are great. There will always be people who like one over the other no matter how much the other bitches about it. Calling Randy an idiot is just wrong.
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Re: Video Repost?? C6 ZO6 vs Ford GT

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I must be, i keep talking to you!
This coming from the person who claims that the blue devil engine will be in a '08 SS which I am still waiting to see this information or a link as to where you saw this from. But basically the bottom line is that Randy W knows nothing about these cars. He see's Z06 and thats all that matters. Z06 is faster, better, etc. But yet I post plenty of information about these two cars and basically point out that he is dead wrong but he doesn't want to hear it and continues to go on acting as if he had some what of a clue as to what he is talking about which he does not. And to prove he has no idea as to what he is talking about he thinks a test mule with 50 less hp is faster then that of the production model with the added 50 hp. Randy! You won the tool of the day award!
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This coming from the person who claims that the blue devil engine will be in a '08 SS which I am still waiting to see this information or a link as to where you saw this from. But basically the bottom line is that Randy W knows nothing about these cars. He see's Z06 and thats all that matters. Z06 is faster, better, etc. But yet I post plenty of information about these two cars and basically point out that he is dead wrong but he doesn't want to hear it and continues to go on acting as if he had some what of a clue as to what he is talking about which he does not. And to prove he has no idea as to what he is talking about he thinks a test mule with 50 less hp is faster then that of the production model with the added 50 hp. Randy! You won the tool of the day award!

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All the 'real' GTs have been slower in every test run.
I have 2 magazines in front of me, plus top gear videos that say otherwise.

Sports & GT Cars Magazine tested the Vette Z06, Viper SRT-10 Coupe, Ford GT, and Ferrari F430.

GT 3.6 / 11.7 @ 125.8 mph -100 mph 8.0 skidpad 1.00g
Z06 3.9 / 12.2 @ 120.7 mph 8.8 .99g
SRT-10 4.2 / 12.3 @ 118.3 mph 9.3 .97g
F430 3.5 / 11.7 @ 120.7 mph 8.1 .90g (spyder)

braking from 80 ft
gt 214
f430 192
z06 197
srt-10 196
Looks to me like the Ford GT beats the vette in every test by them except braking.

Top Gear also tested both cars in perfectly dry conditions. The Stig pulled a 1:21.9 with the GT. He ran a 1:22.4 with the Z06.

Apparently the Z06 never loses to the GT in real world comparisons tho...
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I'm still waiting for this information about a blue devil powered '08 SS
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I have 2 magazines in front of me, plus top gear videos that say otherwise.

Sports & GT Cars Magazine tested the Vette Z06, Viper SRT-10 Coupe, Ford GT, and Ferrari F430.

GT 3.6 / 11.7 @ 125.8 mph -100 mph 8.0 skidpad 1.00g
Z06 3.9 / 12.2 @ 120.7 mph 8.8 .99g
SRT-10 4.2 / 12.3 @ 118.3 mph 9.3 .97g
F430 3.5 / 11.7 @ 120.7 mph 8.1 .90g (spyder)

braking from 80 ft
gt 214
f430 192
z06 197
srt-10 196
Looks to me like the Ford GT beats the vette in every test by them except braking.

Top Gear also tested both cars in perfectly dry conditions. The Stig pulled a 1:21.9 with the GT. He ran a 1:22.4 with the Z06.

Apparently the Z06 never loses to the GT in real world comparisons tho...
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The Vette doesn't need the blower or the OHC's to whip Ford boy's ass!
Obviously it does if you get so excited about the Blue Devil and that's blown
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Seems to me all these 'Vette' guys just want to believe the Z06 is faster than the GT. Being ridiculously close in performance for 1/2 the price isn't good enough for them. Its a vette, its gotta be better, lol.
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This is fun.
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This is fun.
This is entertainment...not fun

Fun is, after staging at a red light in your CTS next to a V6 Mustang, and while your gf has her hands down your pants...you try to launch properly. The car, I mean...
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