This is your brain on .... some drugs, anyway...

[JimHare]

Is it just me, or is anyone bothered by this:

The Partnership for a Drug Free America
- has its commercial air time and print space donated to it by media
- has its product (commercials, PSAs, et al) donated by Ad & PR agencies

And has, as it's major contributors, the following organizations:

Bristol-Myers Squibb
Johnson & Johnson
Schering-Plough
Phillip-Morris
RJR Reynolds
Anheuser-Busch
American Brands
Hoffman-LaRoche
Wyeth Pharmaceuticals
Purdue Pharma LP
Bayer HealthCare
Glaxo-SmithKline
McNeil Consumer Healthcare
Perrigo Company
Pfizer
Abbott Laboratories


"Don't you dare smoke that weed, but here, try this little blue pill if the old hammer ain't pounding as many nails as it used to...."

Is it just me????

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Oh, and here's another little tidbit I just found out: In 2002, the combined profits of the top 10 Pharmaceutical companies in the Fortune 500 were greater than the profits of THE OTHER 490 FIRMS COMBINED!

[OffThaHorseCEO]

well not really cause its not drug abuse unless it used for a purpose other than originally created for

also its to show that the companies creating legitimate drugs (aka medicines) care about gettin the word out to stop abuse

[DopeStar 156]

Marijuanna is a seditave though, When people smoke it that's how they're using it. Is that drug abuse by definition?

[DopeStar 156]

Double post...

[OffThaHorseCEO]

Originally Posted by DopeStar 156

Marijuanna is a seditave though, When people smoke it that's how they're using it. Is that drug abuse by definition?

good point

people use viagra cause they cant get it up

people use tylenol because (among other things) their head hurts

people relieve heartburns with medicines such as tums rolaids etc

those drugs serve a purpose, if a guy can get it up just fine, but uses viagra anyways, i believe thats drug abuse

marijuana, is used to relieve some of the symptoms associated with glaucoma (i wont even act like i kno wat the symptoms are or what exactly glaucoma is) but in that case its serving a purpose, not drug abuse

marijuana,cocaine,meth etc are recreational drugs taken (usually) solely for the side effects they produce, they (usually) arent taken to relieve a certain ailment, and in my opinion that constitutes drug abuse

[Jonas McFeely]

I do agree with the first post.I think that is kind of hypocritical of The Partnership for a Drug Free America.To say hey,its cool to eat these pain killers and take all this crap for whatever it is that you have,but its not ok to smoke a bowl every once in awhile.Yes,smoking weed habitually is considered drug abuse,and i wont disagree.But what the hell is drinking caffinated coffee or soda everyday.Its a drug,it stimulates you(i know weed is a depressant),you dont need it,you are abusing it,and in my opinion soda is worse for you than smoking weed.Now dont get me wrong,im not a big pot head,i never have been.

These drug prevention things usually fail,who remembers DARE?It was deemed a total failure by the person who ran it! Im say having drug and alcohol companies fund your cause,and your cause being to stop the abuse of the latter,is rediculous,and sends horrible message to kids.Granted,most kids dont and will never know who funds all that crap,but still,its bad for the few that do.I think it sends conflicting message.A beer company is funding this program thats trying to prevent me from using that product and telling me that its bad?Huh?

[DopeStar 156]

In reality, who's to say that Pfizer won't accidentally create the next crystal meth? Mistakes happen and information leaks. It's completely possible. Ritalin is pretty close to marijuanna. It's a seditative used to calm down hyperactive kids. A kid on ritalin and a pothead next to each other don't look too different, one's just laughing the whole time.

[OffThaHorseCEO]

not necessarily, it all comes down to education and responsibility

Drug Abuse Resistance Education, sure he/she may have deemed it a failure, but i never have done any drugs, alot of my friends smoke daily and i get on them more about the mess they leave (wrappers, ashes, roaches etc) than the shit they smoke. i never used any of the "tactics" they taught in dare, that shit was useless, i learned more from the effects standpoint of it, where they say it affects hygiene brain and body etc, not to mention the first hand experience of the people i lived around.

i drink every once in a while and did so before the legal age, but i did so responsibly meaning if i was drunk off my ass i didnt drive or do anything that affected anyones well being. the point is, theres nothin wrong with any of the drugs or alcohol out there if they are used responsibly and not abused.

which brings up another contradiction, alcohol is created for the sole purpose of gettin you ****ed up, so why isnt it illegal, or why isnt weed legal?

i think i may have contradicted myself here, im not an expert on anything, just staint my opinions and im human so they arent perfect

[Jonas McFeely]

Originally Posted by OffThaHorseCEO

not necessarily, it all comes down to education and responsibility

Drug Abuse Resistance Education, sure he/she may have deemed it a failure, but i never have done any drugs, alot of my friends smoke daily and i get on them more about the mess they leave (wrappers, ashes, roaches etc) than the shit they smoke. i never used any of the "tactics" they taught in dare, that shit was useless, i learned more from the effects standpoint of it, where they say it affects hygiene brain and body etc, not to mention the first hand experience of the people i lived around.

i drink every once in a while and did so before the legal age, but i did so responsibly meaning if i was drunk off my ass i didnt drive or do anything that affected anyones well being. the point is, theres nothin wrong with any of the drugs or alcohol out there if they are used responsibly and not abused.

which brings up another contradiction, alcohol is created for the sole purpose of gettin you ****ed up, so why isnt it illegal, or why isnt weed legal?

i think i may have contradicted myself here, im not an expert on anything, just staint my opinions and im human so they arent perfect

Now i wouldnt go as far to say that ANY of the drugs out there is ok to use responsibly.Meth,cocaine and heroine mainly.No way,Horrible drugs,ive never done meth or heroine,but i have used cocaine before and would never recommend doing it in any dose.It is a horrible drug and ruins peoples lives.That is a drug that should NEVER be used for anything.I regret doing it at all.Marijuana on the other hand actually serves a medical purpose and can help more than harm,and is reasonably priced. J/K

[Spyder]

Meth, heroin and cocaine were all pharmaceutical (sp) drugs at one point, until people began to take advantage of them. PCP was even used on people, legally and responsibily, for a time, as was freaking ACID! All drugs have SOME use, but many of them the downsides are worse than the positives and there are alternatives...I'm anti-drug for what I've seen them do to family and friends, but occasional use of things such as cocaine or heroin, as a tool rather than a drug, I have no problem with. Shot of meth to help ya study the night before an exam, ok, if you fully understand what it can likely do to you, go for it. I never have done that myself, because I DO know and I don't want to get involved with it, not to mention the illegality of it. I am currently applying for the Masters program at Sacramento State, and afterwards plan on working for the DEA, so I'm not advocating drug use at all...but they do have their purposes. Disorganized thoughts here, I know, but I'm on my way out the door to go finish putting brakes on the Challenger, so I didn't put a whole lot of thought into it...sorry.

[JimHare]

Originally Posted by OffThaHorseCEO

well not really cause its not drug abuse unless it used for a purpose other than originally created for

also its to show that the companies creating legitimate drugs (aka medicines) care about gettin the word out to stop abuse

Well, it's only drug abuse as defined by the LAW, not medicinal efficacy.

Smoking pot wasn't considered drug abuse until 1935 when it was outlawed. Interesting story there, too..

What concerned me is the inordinate amount of money spent on pushing drugs on the public by the Pharmy's, when it's THEIR drugs they're pushing. And the fact that (up until 2004) the PFADFA took millions of dollars from alcohol and tobacco companies, purveyors of the drugs (legal) that cause orders of magnitude more harm than the couple ounces of Mexican mellow that owning will get you tossed in the clink for LIFE in some places.

Reading some of the BS coming from the Pharmy's has really started to tick me off - how they can now pay the FDA to "fast track" a drug approval process, how most of their "R&D" is performed on the public nickel at universities and public health institutes, how their advertising and PR expenses are two to three times their R&D budgets (which, I guess since WE'RE paying their R&D, is not so suprising) and other chicanery surrounding these Bimmer-driving pimps and pushers is very aggravating...

But, as Chris Rock says, "There ain't no money in a CURE.."


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[Zorb750]

Smokinthepot???

[DopeStar 156]

Originally Posted by OffThaHorseCEO

Drug Abuse Resistance Education

My all time favorite shirt. I love the reactions I get when wearing this thing.

[Jonas McFeely]

Pretty sweet shirt.

[Spyder]

Haha, I bet it DOES get some great ones!