I don't think I have ever screamed at my mom so loudly (on topic)

[Jesda]

I'm sure none of you self-righteous people have EVER argued with your parents.

[mccombie_5]

Originally Posted by Jesda

I'm sure none of you self-righteous people have EVER argued with your parents.

Of course. Lots. Just not about something so silly as her driving my car too hard

[powerglide]

Originally Posted by Jesda

I'm sure none of you self-righteous people have EVER argued with your parents.

self-righteous........riiiiight

[Jesda]

I argue with my folks all the time about everything: from vehicle operation to parking to how much mayo is appropriate for a sandwich (they got on my case once, lol). I yell, they yell, then we apologize to each other and life goes on. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I'm right. Thats the great thing about arguing with family -- the relationship is still bound by unconditional affection.

As much as I loved watching Leave It To Beaver as a kid, I'm thankful my family doesn't work that way. We let it out, get it over with, and get on with more important things. Just because there's yelling it doesn't mean there's hate.

Families operate with their own internal codes of conduct. Best not to judge.

[addison_ii]

Originally Posted by Jesda

I argue with my folks all the time about everything: from vehicle operation to parking to how much mayo is appropriate for a sandwich (they got on my case once, lol). I yell, they yell, then we apologize to each other and life goes on. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I'm right. Thats the great thing about arguing with family -- the relationship is still bound by unconditional affection.

As much as I loved watching Leave It To Beaver as a kid, I'm thankful my family doesn't work that way. We let it out, get it over with, and get on with more important things. Just because there's yelling it doesn't mean there's hate.

Families operate with their own internal codes of conduct. Best not to judge.

My parents and I are like that but usually it's me trying to instruct them on how to be responsible LOL(don't ask). We have argued, my father and I have almost fought(really bad situation) and my mother and I have went a year without speaking(another really bad situation). But I love them without a doubt and try to help them whenever possible. But when helping them can possibly destroy something of mind that my hard earned money went to buy, I reserve the right to vent loudly and let them know.

[Elvis]

Whatever happened to courtesy? Whatever happened to "honor your father and mother?" Whatever happened to unconditional love?

Whatever happened to Bear Bryant? "Have you called your momma today? I sure wish I could call mine."

Grow the f--- up and get over yourself. I hope your kids are as ungrateful and selfish as you are.

[Jesda]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Whatever happened to courtesy? Whatever happened to "honor your father and mother?" Whatever happened to unconditional love?
Whatever happened to Bear Bryant? "Have you called your momma today? I sure wish I could call mine."
Grow the f--- up and get over yourself. I hope your kids are as ungrateful and selfish as you are.

You incorrectly assume that yelling and arguing makes one "ungrateful" and "disrespectful". Normal human beings air their grievances and resolve conflict, Springer guests not among the normal of course.

There's a difference between trashing your mother and being momentarily angry. I'm not seven years old anymore. My mom, 42, looks 30 and lives a very active, outgoing lifestyle. She's not some weird, decrepit old woman who gets offended by sunshine and longs for the days of soda shoppes and segregation.

[addison_ii]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Whatever happened to courtesy? Whatever happened to "honor your father and mother?" Whatever happened to unconditional love?

Whatever happened to Bear Bryant? "Have you called your momma today? I sure wish I could call mine."

Grow the f--- up and get over yourself. I hope your kids are as ungrateful and selfish as you are.

I agree with you but in my case my father was addicted to crack cocaine and my mother was in an abusive relationship with an alcoholic and was negelecting her parental duties because of it. So I had to voice my opinion in the ways mentioned above. Not saying it was right but being a 13-15 year old kid, I felt that was the only way.

[psykiv]

Originally Posted by Elvis

Whatever happened to courtesy? Whatever happened to "honor your father and mother?" Whatever happened to unconditional love?

Whatever happened to Bear Bryant? "Have you called your momma today? I sure wish I could call mine."

Grow the f--- up and get over yourself. I hope your kids are as ungrateful and selfish as you are.

so let me guess, what you are tryign to say is, that because someone happens to be your parent, they can do whatever the **** they want? how about if your parents raped you? how about if they beat you on a daily basis? what about if they locked you in a suitcase in a closet for days on end? what if they get home all drugged up every day?

my parents do not do this, but just because they are your parents automatically meaning they deserve courtesy is wrong.

does my grandfather deserve courtesy at all for shipping my dad off to boarding school at age 5 and not seeing him *AT ALL* for about 25 years? and before that beating him on a daily basis? tell my dad that his dad deserves some courtesy. til this day, whenever my grandfather sees my dad, he sees him with disgust, he never liked my dad, and never will.

i actually call my mom and dad everyday. I talk to them often and we get along. But I dont go around breaking their things, i expect the same courtesy. Maybe youre the one that needs to rethink your "respect me because im old" philosophy. I respect people when they deserve to be respected.

[psykiv]

Originally Posted by wht2000

Couldn't have said it better myself!!

I find it really funny how people think. "oh, he is 19 years old and drives a nice car. his parents MUST HAVE bought it for him. that also means he is spoiled."

That pisses me the **** off... Have you guys ever considered the fact that maybe a 19 year old could be moderately sucessful? Hell, the only reason why I got that care was because I did so well in school, I had a bunch of leftover scholarship money and decided to get a nice car.

I go to school full-time and I have my own little business doing contractual work. I have a customer base steady enough to pay my day to day expenses (gas, food, items I may want, etc) and the leftover scholarship money pretty much has the car covered.

But oh no, all 19 year old college kids work at mcdonalds flipping hamburgers and drive honda civics. Maybe youre the one who needs to stop your jealousy and get a life. I also think I do a pretty decent job managing the expenses for my parents so that they can enjoy the things they want too. I know for a fact that if it wasn't for me managing their expenses, they would essentially be giving away over $1,000 a month and not be too far from bankruptcy (between lots of other things)

Please, I'd like to know how I am spoiled.

[illumina]

Originally Posted by psykiv

I find it really funny how people think. "oh, he is 19 years old and drives a nice car. his parents MUST HAVE bought it for him. that also means he is spoiled."

That pisses me the **** off... Have you guys ever considered the fact that maybe a 19 year old could be moderately sucessful? Hell, the only reason why I got that care was because I did so well in school, I had a bunch of leftover scholarship money and decided to get a nice car.

I go to school full-time and I have my own little business doing contractual work. I have a customer base steady enough to pay my day to day expenses (gas, food, items I may want, etc) and the leftover scholarship money pretty much has the car covered.

But oh no, all 19 year old college kids work at mcdonalds flipping hamburgers and drive honda civics. Maybe youre the one who needs to stop your jealousy and get a life. I also think I do a pretty decent job managing the expenses for my parents so that they can enjoy the things they want too. I know for a fact that if it wasn't for me managing their expenses, they would essentially be giving away over $1,000 a month and not be too far from bankruptcy (between lots of other things)

Please, I'd like to know how I am spoiled.

Hey there, I hear ya on the contracting business I do it too, but I have general cleaning contracts that I do, plus a part-time job and a full-time student. I pull in anywhere from $1000 to $2500 per month, it just depends on business.

My family literally has nothing, or at least on my mother's side. My father's side has fared much better, but I expect zero help from them should I ever need it. I once tried, but was turned away because of a falling out me and my father had when I was 12 years old. It took 10 years to reconcile our past differences...Ever since then, I really don't ask him or his side of the family to help me with jack shit. I'm their black sheep so to speak.

My mother and her family would give me the clothes off their backs if they could, but they really don't have that luxury. When I was 13, me and my mother were homeless and had nothing. She is still struggling to get by in the world, but has a decent husband, the man I consider more of a father to a degree (helped me to fix my '87 Seville when I first got her, taught me all the mechanics tricks) than my own father. They don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. I would like to think that when I am making really good money, I can just settle their matters once and for all and forget about it. At the rate things are going, the won't be able to retire until they're in their '70's!

My brother is the only fall back I have in the city where I live at. He has had some decent success, but I really don't like to leech off of him...Until laundry day when his lady fixes dinner

[D148L0]

Originally Posted by Rolex

Actually it reads:

You are entitled to have and express an opinion, as much as I'm entitled to question the validity of it.

I'm guessing the latter part of his sig applies here.

Precisely, thanks man.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by psykiv

Maybe youre the one that needs to rethink your "respect me because im old" philosophy. I respect people when they deserve to be respected.

Your kind of respect is worthless and I never asked for it, kid.

So you're a victim. Poor you.