What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? - Page 9

**I~LUV~Caddys8792** · #**121** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dirt_cheap_fleetwood

Trucks should be able to do this. Real trucks can do it in 4wd.

The funny thing about that movie is you don't really hear the Duramax revving that high, he's probably doing 2000-2500 rpm's through the brakestand.

The Duramax is nice and all, but for pickup diesels, I think the Cummins is best. I just like the fact it's an I-6 (and a HUGE one at that, 6.7L now), it sounds AWESOME, is the easiest to tune, and has the reputation to back it up. Ford hasn't had a truly great diesel since the 7.3L left the market (the 6.0 has tone of problems...injectors, EGR valves, headgaskets) and the 6.4 ain't much better, but they're gonna replace that in a few years too with a new Ford designed engine (not Navistar), and I've heard it's gonna be back in the 6.8-7.0L range again.

My friend with the Titan wants to race me. It'll be close, he thinks he'll win, I think I will. Only one way to find out....

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Originally Posted by Jesda

And yet, despite all this, your Ridgeline is still terrible.

A friend's parents have an '06 Ridgeline RTL and it's nice to ride in, very comfortable, smooth ride, heated leather seats & auto HVAC, lots of cabin space, but that's really all they ever use it for....commuting. It gets good mileage and has never had any problems (but then again, what Honda doesn't?), but it's no fun in the snow because it's full time AWD, and he complains of the power (I've driven it before, and it's not quick), but it stands out in a crowd and can't be categorized with anything else. It's closest competitor in terms of versatility and design would be the Avalanche, but they're a good deal bigger, body on frame rear/all wheel drive and V8 powered.

They are innovative though, lots of cool ideas in them.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood · #**122** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 07:41 PM

As I said, the Ridgeline is a yuppie truck. It's for people who want to say they drive a truck but also want it to ride like a car. It's the same thing with crossovers. People can say they own an SUV but it is basically a large car/small minivan. My grandpa's '02 with the Duramax rides extremely well for a truck, much better than his old Ford, but when it comes down to it you can still slap a 16,000 lb trailer behind it and it acts like there's nothing there. Heck, you have to tow over 12k lbs before you even have to hit the tow mode for the trans. Not to mention the thing is a rocket. I beat my friend's '04 Impala and I was bucking a 30 mph head wind. We raced from about 25-120 and I just pulled the entire time until he was a small speck in my rear view mirror.

The Cummins is a damn good engine, but it's very noisy and vibrates a lot at idle. The Duramax in my Grandpa's truck is actually slightly quieter than my Mark VII with Mustang GT mufflers.

**Jesda** · #**123** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792

A friend's parents have an '06 Ridgeline RTL and it's nice to ride in, very comfortable, smooth ride, heated leather seats & auto HVAC, lots of cabin space, but that's really all they ever use it for....commuting.

Its an Accord with a bed, and its not easy on the eyes. The fault is with Honda for marketing it as a capable pickup truck, which it isn't. Its an around-town cargo vehicle. They should have called it the "Pilot Max" or something.

Honda got it wrong with the first Odyssey too. It was a little stationwagon that barely had room for luggage and baby strollers -- a dwarf next to the Nissan Quest and Chrysler Town and Country. They went back to the drawing board the second time around and asked Americans what they wanted out of a minivan, and did it correctly.

I suspect that once the recession is over, Honda will redesign and rerelease the Ridgeline as an actual truck.

Trucks are like tools. I buy tools to use and abuse, so I buy Craftsman. If I wanted to just make the neighbors think I was manly, I'd get a bunch of toolboxes and place them prominently in the garage for everyone to see, and fill them with Chinese wrenches from Wal-Mart.

Trucks don't have to be able to tow Mount Everest to be useful, but as evidenced by the third world, a real body on frame pickup, even a tiny one, can take SERIOUS daily abuse. GM, Toyota, Ford, and Isuzu sell hundreds of thousands of them for a reason.

On that note, I need to go back to Thailand.

Gristle Boy · #**124** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 08:20 PM

In a probably hopeless attempt to steer this thread away from the Ridgeline and it's attendant "Ridginess", may I present:

Behold the future of ghey!

LS1Mike · #**125** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 08:26 PM

My guess is the Ridgeline that won was about as Honda factory stock as any C5R is factory stock.

LS1Mike · #**126** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 08:33 PM

Just for the record...
These are trucks.

NOT TRUCKS

Aron9000 · #**127** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Mike

Just for the record...

I'd call an El Camino a truck. Its body on frame, solid rear axle, RWD, V8, and has a pretty big bed. With the right motor under the hood(aka not a 305 V8) I'm sure it could tow 6000lbs without a problem.

The Aussies use them as trucks . . . .

LS1Mike · #**128** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 10:00 PM

It is on car frame though. So it is a car with a bed. Just like the rest.

V-Eight · #**129** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Mike

That last guy's comment on the page about the Ridgeline says it all.
"Congratulations to the win for the Mini Van"
That thing is about as much truck as my Equinox.

That being me?

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Originally Posted by dirt_cheap_fleetwood

Trucks should be able to do this. Real trucks can do it in 4wd.

Amen

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Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792

The funny thing about that movie is you don't really hear the Duramax revving that high, he's probably doing 2000-2500 rpm's through the brakestand.

Yeah, I know the new ones get max torque at like 1800 RPM or something which is pretty cool.

Aron9000 · #**130** (**permalink**) 07-10-09, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1Mike

It is on car frame though. So it is a car with a bed. Just like the rest.

Back in the day there wasn't a heck of a lot of difference between the way a GM A-body was built and how a 2wd GM pickup was built. The 67-72 trucks used the same front suspension setup, and more interestingly they used coil springs in the rear like an A-body car.

"G$" · #**131** (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 12:31 AM

The unwarranted bias on this board is akin to racism. the point of my post was that ridgelines are not hideous abominations. I never said that they are a "truckers truck" with massive towing capacity. The are a pretty significantly cool vehicle. However, the GM/american car fans here are so obsessed with their hatred for a Honda/foreign products that they have to pretend like it's a piece of crap vehicle and change the subject to make an argument. I'm sorry GM went bankrupt, it's not honda's fault though for making quality vehicles when GM was serving up less than quality vehicles...it's not your fault, it's not your fault, it's not your fault.

And Jesda, nice comeback. Wait you didn't have one. Go back to posting about Ford F-150's that you don't own, cadillacs you don't own but your buddy ian does, driving off the road because you can't drive, your leaky plymouth crossfire, and making threads about bleach. Too bad you aren't as good with real life grown up stuff as you are with navigating internet forums and taking pictures and posting them. I'm sorry.

hueterm · #**132** (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 12:43 AM

Oh please...you didn't just bring racism into this...

The Ridgeline haters may think you're a

, but a racial element???

They're not dogging on Tundras or Titans....so it sounds like an issue w/the vehicle to me -- not where it's made...

To be clear, I don't have a problem w/Ridgelines -- I just want a larger truck. I'm sure they come in handy for people who don't tow or haul excessive loads.

orconn · #**133** (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by "G$"

The unwarranted bias on this board is akin to racism. the point of my post was that ridgelines are not hideous abominations. I never said that they are a "truckers truck" with massive towing capacity. The are a pretty significantly cool vehicle. However, the GM/american car fans here are so obsessed with their hatred for a Honda/foreign products that they have to pretend like it's a piece of crap vehicle and change the subject to make an argument. I'm sorry GM went bankrupt, it's not honda's fault though for making quality vehicles when GM was serving up less than quality vehicles...it's not your fault, it's not your fault, it's not your fault.

And Jesda, nice comeback. Wait you didn't have one. Go back to posting about Ford F-150's that you don't own, cadillacs you don't own but your buddy ian does, driving off the road because you can't drive, your leaky plymouth crossfire, and making threads about bleach. Too bad you aren't as good with real life grown up stuff as you are with navigating internet forums and taking pictures and posting them. I'm sorry.

Lighten up, theres nothing wrong with liking Ridgelines or other crossover vehicles. I for one would never own or drive a truck, if I again had horses or boats to haul I'd get someone with a truck to do it for me, just as in the past. Opinions are cheap, especially on the internet, so no point in getting uptight over a difference of one.

**Jesda** · #**134** (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 02:59 AM

Rodya234 · #**135** (**permalink**) 07-11-09, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by "G$"

The unwarranted bias on this board is akin to racism. the point of my post was that ridgelines are not hideous abominations.

And then someone disagreed with you. So someone has a different opinion about the Ridgeline, It's not like anyone insulted you, so why are you taking it so personally? Sure some of the opinions about the Ridgeline might be based on more then looks, but it doesn't really warrant being so offended.