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07-11-09, 03:47 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): '03 Seville STS, '89 Eldorado, '89 Grand Wagoneer | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 36 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by "G$" The unwarranted bias on this board is akin to racism. the point of my post was that ridgelines are not hideous abominations. I never said that they are a "truckers truck" with massive towing capacity. The are a pretty significantly cool vehicle. However, the GM/american car fans here are so obsessed with their hatred for a Honda/foreign products that they have to pretend like it's a piece of crap vehicle and change the subject to make an argument. I'm sorry GM went bankrupt, it's not honda's fault though for making quality vehicles when GM was serving up less than quality vehicles...it's not your fault, it's not your fault, it's not your fault.
And Jesda, nice comeback. Wait you didn't have one. Go back to posting about Ford F-150's that you don't own, cadillacs you don't own but your buddy ian does, driving off the road because you can't drive, your leaky plymouth crossfire, and making threads about bleach. Too bad you aren't as good with real life grown up stuff as you are with navigating internet forums and taking pictures and posting them. I'm sorry. | WTF? You seriously need to either grow a pair or just completely 'eff off. Jesus Christ... "Oh no" - no one else here likes your friggin' f-uck (fake-truck), so it's immediately chalked up to unwarranted bias that's akin to racism?
What sort of pansy-ass, overemotional nonsense is that? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it was listed on here with no contest because a good deal of people simply think it's butt-ugly?
You think otherwise... You like it and think it looks good - that's perfectly fine. But don't get all twisted out of shape because such sentiments fall into the vast minority and it's not like it's just here either... Judging by their lackluster sales, it seems to be a market-wide consensus. It's not very hard to figure out why either... Aside from its looks, there aren't many people in the market for an overpriced, underpowered minivan with a small, exposed flat cargo area.
Also, what exactly was the point of linking to that Baja 1000 page... So an extensively modified Ridgeline won the race due to sheer luck - Did you even read the entire article? That extensively modified Ridgeline would have lost the race to both a FJ Cruiser and a H3, had the FJ not had its entire front end ripped off by a boulder a few miles from the finish line... AND had a stock Dodge Ram not pulled the Ridgeline out of the sand right after the FJ's crash. Now there's some great marketing material.
Bottom line - it's a stupid car. You made your opinion be known, now move on... There's no need to get your panties in that much of a bunch. I mean, really... By your (over)reaction, one would almost think it's as if someone insulted your buck-toothed, hunch-backed cousin or something. | 
07-11-09, 10:27 AM
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07-11-09, 11:43 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): none :( | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bremerton, Washington Age: 35 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? I never said the Ridgeline was a bad car or Crossover. It does just fine at that. It is just a really really Sh*ty truck. | 
07-11-09, 12:00 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 75 Eldo Convertible | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston North Age: 29 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by hueterm Oh please...you didn't just bring racism into this...
The Ridgeline haters may think you're a  , but a racial element???
They're not dogging on Tundras or Titans....so it sounds like an issue w/the vehicle to me -- not where it's made...
To be clear, I don't have a problem w/Ridgelines -- I just want a larger truck. I'm sure they come in handy for people who don't tow or haul excessive loads. | I compared it to racism. didn't accuse anybody of it. it's a valid comparison. | 
07-11-09, 12:01 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 75 Eldo Convertible | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston North Age: 29 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodya234 And then someone disagreed with you. So someone has a different opinion about the Ridgeline, It's not like anyone insulted you, so why are you taking it so personally? Sure some of the opinions about the Ridgeline might be based on more then looks, but it doesn't really warrant being so offended. | I'm not that offended, just plan on winning the argument. | 
07-11-09, 12:04 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 75 Eldo Convertible | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston North Age: 29 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by AMGoff WTF? You seriously need to either grow a pair or just completely 'eff off. Jesus Christ... "Oh no" - no one else here likes your friggin' f-uck (fake-truck), so it's immediately chalked up to unwarranted bias that's akin to racism?
What sort of pansy-ass, overemotional nonsense is that? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it was listed on here with no contest because a good deal of people simply think it's butt-ugly?
You think otherwise... You like it and think it looks good - that's perfectly fine. But don't get all twisted out of shape because such sentiments fall into the vast minority and it's not like it's just here either... Judging by their lackluster sales, it seems to be a market-wide consensus. It's not very hard to figure out why either... Aside from its looks, there aren't many people in the market for an overpriced, underpowered minivan with a small, exposed flat cargo area.
Also, what exactly was the point of linking to that Baja 1000 page... So an extensively modified Ridgeline won the race due to sheer luck - Did you even read the entire article? That extensively modified Ridgeline would have lost the race to both a FJ Cruiser and a H3, had the FJ not had its entire front end ripped off by a boulder a few miles from the finish line... AND had a stock Dodge Ram not pulled the Ridgeline out of the sand right after the FJ's crash. Now there's some great marketing material.
Bottom line - it's a stupid car. You made your opinion be known, now move on... There's no need to get your panties in that much of a bunch. I mean, really... By your (over)reaction, one would almost think it's as if someone insulted your buck-toothed, hunch-backed cousin or something. | not a very intelligent response. Calling it a minivan is kind of childish because it's not built on a minivan platform or anything like a minivan.
when pickuptruck dot com takes ridgelines off their website and puts them on minivan.com then maybe you'll have a point. | 
07-11-09, 12:05 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1991 Sedan Deville | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Winnipeg, MB Age: 18 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Actually, it is like a minivan in the fact thats its a soccer moms 'truck'. Quote:
Originally Posted by "G$" I'm not that offended, just plan on winning the argument. | ^ Not gonna happen | 
07-11-09, 12:06 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 75 Eldo Convertible | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston North Age: 29 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesda | still didn't post a come back. i knew you didn't have it in ya.  | 
07-11-09, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by G$ I'm not that offended, just plan on winning the argument. | Good luck buddy, lol. The argument is over and you have lost.
Oh, and much like the Odyssey, it's unibody, is powered by a transverse V6, which is shared with the Accord.
Atleast when GM builds a truck, they don't build it off the Uplander platform and throw in a V6 from a midsized sedan.
Let's go ahead and take a look at the Ridgeline article on Wikipedia & see what they have to say about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Ridgeline
Now Wikipedia is about as unbiased as you can get, no worries about Cadillac owners tainting the fine reputation of the Ridgeline. They're just reporting facts, not opinions. Quote: |
The Ridgeline is the only car-based pickup in the United States and Canada.
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This likely harmed Ridgeline sales, as some cited its weak V6 engine (Honda has never developed a V8 for passenger vehicles) and lack of ruggedness due to its unibody construction, while its relatively short cargo bed compared to a standard pickup truck made it unsuitable for contractors. Unlike other crew cabs, the Honda Ridgeline lacks the option of 6-passenger seating, as it only offers bucket seats and not bench seating in the front.
Sales were initially slow, partly because it was considered over-priced. Consequently, dealers have been discounting the truck (which is unusual for a Honda product), and the average selling price has come down steadily according to J.D. Power. Sales are starting to climb, though they are still a fraction of the market leading Ford F-150.
| I'm not saying that Ridgelines are total crap. They're good for what they are, and Honda designed them for a specific purpose, but to compare them against any (I'm trying to not say "real", but it's tough) body on frame, truck based, V8 powered, rear wheel drive based truck is just nonsense.
Edmunds.com's blurb makes the most sense: Although millions of pickup trucks are sold each year, only a fraction of them actually see an off-road trail or a boat ramp. The rest are daily drivers that make an occasional trip to Home Depot for 2x4s and patio furniture. For those consumers who desire a friendlier pickup that can still handle those occasional jobs, there's the Honda Ridgeline. This four-door ("crew cab") pickup truck has a number of distinctive features and, true to Honda's philosophy, is a vehicle that makes sense for the great majority of people shopping in a given market segment.
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07-11-09, 12:45 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 Deville Concours; 2000 Eldorado ETC; 2004 Escalade EXT | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bentonville, AR Age: 38 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by "G$" I compared it to racism. didn't accuse anybody of it. it's a valid comparison. |
The word doesn't even need to be brought up in any context.
You have a weak truck. Own and embrace your choice, instead of stirring up crap in an argument you're not going to win.
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07-11-09, 12:49 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 Deville Concours; 2000 Eldorado ETC; 2004 Escalade EXT | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bentonville, AR Age: 38 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by AMGoff ...no one else here likes your friggin' f-uck (fake-truck)... | In all the time I've known you, this is the funniest thing you've EVER posted  | 
07-11-09, 02:01 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 77 CDV, 01 ETC, 06 DTS III, 69 FWB | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newbury Park, CA Age: 37 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? I'm sensing imminent thread lock...... | 
07-11-09, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 77CDV I'm sensing imminent thread lock...... | Yep. Another thread jacked by some Ridgeline apologist who can't accept that people don't love his ghey-ass douche wagon. 
I don't know why these things attract this type of insecure pansy-thug. Bottom line: It IS a hideous abomination & relevent to this thread. Unlike "winning the arguement". Go back to your Honda forum if you need approval so desperately, you ain't gonna get it here.  | 
07-11-09, 04:31 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): '03 Seville STS, '89 Eldorado, '89 Grand Wagoneer | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 36 | | | Re: What Do You Think Are The Most Hideous Abominations on The Road? Quote:
Originally Posted by "G$" not a very intelligent response. Calling it a minivan is kind of childish because it's not built on a minivan platform or anything like a minivan.
when pickuptruck dot com takes ridgelines off their website and puts them on minivan.com then maybe you'll have a point. | How is that unintelligent or childish... Because its contrary to what you've fooled yourself into thinking?
I'm not sure where you get your information, but the fact remains that the Ridgeline is based off the same platform as the Honda Odyssey - a minivan... Itself nothing more than a modified Accord platform.
You're the only one being childish here buddy-boy. If you need to lie to yourself to somehow make yourself feel better, then that's totally on you. It is what it is... Just because you can't accept it due to some over-geared sense of machismo doesn't make it any less a reality.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... It's a friggin' duck - not a truck. | 
07-11-09, 04:51 PM
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