Name that car . . . .

[70eldo]

How about an Audi Type R 19/ 100 hp "Imperator" pullman limousine, 4.9 l eight-cylinder engine, 1927; the first Audi model with an eight-cylinder engine?

[70eldo]

Yeah, I am pretty sure it's an Audi Type R from 1927-1929 with a Pullmann limousine body. You can barely make out the "1" on the hub caps.
http://www.autoevolution.com/cars/au...ator-1927.html

It was just a coincidence, that I saw a picture of an Audi Type M in a magazine (not even an automotive magazine) I read and though that looked kinda like the car in the picture in this thread. So I checked internet for the Audi types and found the Type R as a match.

[70eldo]

Originally Posted by AMGoff

Nope... As I said, it retained the same exterior with very few - if any changes other than removal of an emblem or ornament. Figure out who provided the "shell," so to speak... and that should help lead you to who made this car.

Focus on the hint I already gave... Any modifications made could be considered ahead of their time, as they are pertinent to today's auto market.

I still don't get the hint though...

[AMGoff]

An Audi...? I'd be one of the last people to list a foreign car. It's American made, as is the model it's based off of.

As far as the hint is concerned regarding any modifications made to the model it was based on... Think of modern-day automotive technologies in use today which could have been considered ahead of its time when this was produced.

[billc83]

I originally thought it was a Packard because of the hexagons on the wheels. But they'd be red.

It's a pre-war American made car, with some features that were way ahead of their time.

It's not a Pierce-Arrow; headlights would give that away. It's not a Duesy. It's not a Cord, which I though was a great guess considering the Cord L-29 was one of the first FWD cars - a feature seen in most of today's cars.

My best guess is it's a Marmon Sixteen, early 30s vintage. Their body panels were aluminium, a weight-saving technique. IIRC aluminium was also used in the engine, which is pretty standard nowadays.

[70eldo]

Originally Posted by AMGoff

An Audi...? I'd be one of the last people to list a foreign car. It's American made, as is the model it's based off of.

As far as the hint is concerned regarding any modifications made to the model it was based on... Think of modern-day automotive technologies in use today which could have been considered ahead of its time when this was produced.

Go check pictures of the Audi Type R Pullmann Limousine. The resemblance is astonishing! Sidekicks, bumpers, body, grille, slots in the side hood... If your picture is not from an Audi, than either the Audi was a copy (which I doubt, as it was derived from the Type M), or that car was a copy of the Audi.

[orconn]

Originally Posted by 70eldo

Go check pictures of the Audi Type R Pullmann Limousine. The resemblance is astonishing! Sidekicks, bumpers, body, grille, slots in the side hood... If your picture is not from an Audi, than either the Audi was a copy (which I doubt, as it was derived from the Type M), or that car was a copy of the Audi.

Unfortunately for us, 70eldo, American cars of that era had very similar coachwork. While this car may resemble an Audi, it in fact also resembles many American sedans of the late 1920's. In this case the car is apparently a modification of a higher volume production car from which the identifying emblems have beeen removed. The body is possibly of GM Fisher Body origin, to my eye it looks like a '29 Buick. It is very difficult to identify these American cars without the cars unique badges.

[orconn]

Originally Posted by billc83

I originally thought it was a Packard because of the hexagons on the wheels. But they'd be red.

It's a pre-war American made car, with some features that were way ahead of their time.

It's not a Pierce-Arrow; headlights would give that away. It's not a Duesy. It's not a Cord, which I though was a great guess considering the Cord L-29 was one of the first FWD cars - a feature seen in most of today's cars.

My best guess is it's a Marmon Sixteen, early 30s vintage. Their body panels were aluminium, a weight-saving technique. IIRC aluminium was also used in the engine, which is pretty standard nowadays.

As a point of interest, apparently not all Pierce Arrows had the headlights fared into the front fenders. P A also offered an option called the "New York City headlight" that used conventional, for the time, headlight shells and placement between the two front fenders. This car's radiator shell best resembles a '29 Pierce Arrows radiator shell. The hub caps do resemble a Packards, but as you pointed out the hexagone in the center is the wrong color. I don't see any modifications that standout as far as being ahead of their time. But we may be missing something obvious.

[billc83]

Yeah, I didn't read your previous post close enough and then was too lazy to edit.

[AMGoff]

The company which produced and branded the final product made modifications regarding the drivetrain... Again, something which could be considered ahead of its time and is pertinent to today's automotive market. However, production was needless to say... limited, due to overall economic conditions of the time - as well as because the manufacturer which provided the base body, chassis, and engine ultimately found itself belly-up thanks to the market crash of '29...

[Aron9000]

I'm pretty sure you're talking about fuel effieceny, but I have no idea what the car is.

[orconn]

Originally Posted by 70eldo

How about an Audi Type R 19/ 100 hp "Imperator" pullman limousine, 4.9 l eight-cylinder engine, 1927; the first Audi model with an eight-cylinder engine?

Interestingly, in 1928 Audi purchased and transported to Germany the manufacturing equipment from the then defunct Rickenbacker automobile company. Both the engines and bodies of the Rickenbacker were then used by Audi for their Zwickau and Dresden models of the late 1920's and early 1930's. This may well account for the similarities you found between the Audi and the mystery car.

[70eldo]

Originally Posted by orconn

Interestingly, in 1928 Audi purchased and transported to Germany the manufacturing equipment from the then defunct Rickenbacker automobile company. Both the engines and bodies of the Rickenbacker were then used by Audi for their Zwickau and Dresden models of the late 1920's and early 1930's. This may well account for the similarities you found between the Audi and the mystery car.

Wow, very interesting! It's like digging archeology and rediscovering ancient facts. Hurray for internet! I am still proud I found this then!

So, it's not a Rickenbacker?

[orconn]

I think this maybe one of those cars that can only be identified by luckily finding a copy of the pictured displayed and reading the caption under the picture. Having said that, someone will undoubtedly identify the car on the next post!

It could be an LPG (liquid propane gas) conversion. Many companies apparently did these conversions in the 1920's and 1930's, but so far I have not been able to turn up any specific companies that performed these conversions or any pictures of cars of that period that were series produced as LPG cars.

At any rate it will be interesting to find out what make, year and model and the car's special attribute.

[orconn]

I quess everyone is stumped with the current mystery car. So if we want to continue the game in this thread someone should post a new "mystery" car for identification.

AMGoff please identify your mystery car so we will all know what we have been missing. Thanks