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Ok I need advice on a fire pit! We have a abandoned farm estate locally that we been cleaning up for a hang out spot. We meet the owners and they don't mind us up there so we asked if we could clean up a shead for a hang out spot this winter. The problem is the shead is 20ft wide by 50ft and we need to heat it!


Since were such pyros we figured why not a fire place! To test the theory we took a bunch of cinder blocks and made a stove like structure in the middle of the room and put a sheet of steal on top and lit her! It was 3 cinders wide and 3 cinders deep by 4 cinders high. It heated well but the smoke was insane....


We have a bunch of round duct work like 10 inch wide or some thing like that and we figured maybe we should duct it to the roof?


Ideas? Discuss...
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Re: building a fireplace for camping

Sounds like you're going to burn down a nice "shead", whatever the hell a "shead" is.
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Re: building a fireplace for camping

Cinder blocks are not a good Idea for a wood stove, they can not handle the heat

you need to either get a freestanding wood stove or make one out of 55 gallon steel drums

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you need to get tubing designed to be stove pipe as the exhaust will be hotter than air duct will handle for long, galvanized duct should not be used, the zinc will melt off
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Google is your friend. And so is the fire department. Good luck.
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Best stove EVER is the one my grandpa made out of 5 car rims welded into a vertical tube. A vent at the bottom controls how much air goes in, controlling burn rate and heat. A small chimney running outside keeps you from suffocating. This thing will get red hot in about 30 minutes and is enough to heat a poll barn (20 foot peak, but also insulated) that is about 30' by 40'.
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This is the best cheap wood-stove design I've ever seen:

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Re: building a fireplace for camping

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Google is your friend. And so is the fire department. Good luck.
Yeah, I'd keep "911" in speed dial. You're either going to asphyxiate someone or burn the "shead" down. If you can't build or buy a legal (safe) stove, then I say forget it. I'm surprised that landowners are willing to take on the liability.
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This is the best cheap wood-stove design I've ever seen: YouTube - daves farm , redneck high efficiency wood stove
An easier way to get the same efficiency is just take two barrels and put one on top of the other with a 6" pipe leading from the bottom one to the top. Then have the chimney on the opposite side of the top barrel from the pipe connecting the bottom and top barrels together. You build the fire in the bottom and the smoke heats the top, creating twice the heating surface as if you just had one barrel. This type of set up was in a cabin I stayed in once and it was able to heat the thing up to 80 degrees in just a few hours. We actually had to let the fire die out because it got too hot to sleep.
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[quote=eldorado99;1689225]This is the best cheap wood-stove design I've ever seen: [/quot


I agree that their a great stove,I dont think most wives would want it in the front room though.
The one I know of is when I worked for British Columbia parks in Manning Park B.C., a very cold area at times,we had a hut with a two barrel heater
in it,like yours,only drums were both horizontal,it was brick bottom lined,that stove lasted for many years and was very safe,a big
part of an efficient stove is to use dry wood.
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Re: building a fireplace for camping

I'm pretty sure you're right, that wood stove design is not wife friendly. Interesting nonetheless.

Whereabouts in Manning Park? I'm there fairly often and have explored a good chunk of it, including many of the countless small shelters and cabins (there are some real luxurious ones nowadays actually). Maybe I've been where you're talking about...
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I'm pretty sure you're right, that wood stove design is not wife friendly. Interesting nonetheless.

Whereabouts in Manning Park? I'm there fairly often and have explored a good chunk of it, including many of the countless small shelters and cabins (there are some real luxurious ones nowadays actually). Maybe I've been where you're talking about...


Hi,the one I'm talking about is right behind the motel in the main complex,
there was a skating rink there, I used to live 10 miles down the road at
eastgate,towers ranch site,across the hi-way from the big black carved bear.
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Re: building a fireplace for camping

Do a craigslist search for a wood stove or fire place insert. We had a wood burning fire place insert at our house, cast iron, weighed about 700lbs, had two huge blower motors on it. We gave it away to a friend to heat his wood-working shop, this is about a 3000 sq ft building. Says the damn thing works too well and it gets too hot in there.
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Do a craigslist search for a wood stove or fire place insert. We had a wood burning fire place insert at our house, cast iron, weighed about 700lbs, had two huge blower motors on it. We gave it away to a friend to heat his wood-working shop, this is about a 3000 sq ft building. Says the damn thing works too well and it gets too hot in there.
I lived for many years with wood heat,an important thing is not to think that bigger is better,when a wood burner has to be damped down because it's too hot, then it's too big for the area it is heating,it's better that it has to work to heat an area,cleaner burning and keeps the pipes clean also,when allowed to "lug" it creates creasote, comparable to a car engine, you dont want to have it lugging.
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