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Old 08-28-08, 07:54 PM
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7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

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Well, that came out of nowhere.

The Dodge Viper ACR is now the king of the 'Ring, posting a 7:22 Nordschleife lap time.

Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 7:22.1 video confirmed
Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 7:26.4 video confirmed
Nissan GT-R 7:29 video confirmed

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On the fourth run, another single hot lap, Coronel puts down the best time of the day, a 7:22.1, slicing over four seconds from the ZR1's time. It's not a sub-7:20, but it'll more than do. Per Shinedling, "Had we shortened the gearing and had more than a day to develop the car for the Nordshcleife, we probably could have dipped below 7:20, but we're very happy with our time, nonetheless."
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

The Viper was running R compound tires.
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

Come on GT-R fanboys, start whining!
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

Well, there goes the ZR-1...
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

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Come on GT-R fanboys, start whining!
Why should they whine ? A car with a price of 30K+ more and a V10 engine out ran their twin turbo charged V6 by 7 seconds while running on R compound tires ? Not really much to whine about in this circumstance.

Same with the ZR1, they weren't running Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires.
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

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The Viper was running R compound tires.
Well, my Viper runs R compound tires...










...is what I would say if I had a Viper.






...and R compound tires.

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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

They had to do something to make it more attractive for Chrysler to sell the Viper brand / model.
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

Before WWII, Tazio Nuvolari had set the qualifying time for an F1 race at the 'Ring. There had been some work done on the track, an additional 1.5 miles had been added, and this was the present track in use. For a gag, another driver went out to qualify, took the 1.5 mile short cut, and cut Nuvolari's time by over a minute. Tazio was astounded and embarrassed. He jumped in his car and cut another qualifying lap while driving like a wild man. He lowered his own previous time by over a minute and again had the pole except he drove all the way around. Nobody had the nerve to tell him what the other guy had done.

If you're wondering who Tazio Nuvolari was, he's the greatest race car driver who ever lived. Before racing cars he raced Grand Prix motorcycles. One time he had a tremendous crash while practicing for the cycle race and broke both legs. The next morning he had a couple of mechanics carry him out and tie him on his motorcycle. He won the race. There was no need to exaggerate his exploits because the truth exceeded anything that anybody could dream up.
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

Does this Nurburgring stuff really matter that much to people that buy these cars? Its on this site all the time. Its getting to be like Hyundai threads.

Do driver's really stop at stoplight's and proclaim to the car next to them that their car is a few seconds faster when driven by a professional on a racetrack few will ever see thousands of miles away?

This is such an obscure performance benchmark it amazes me how it has become so prevalent.
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

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Come on GT-R fanboys, start whining!
If anything that goes to show how good the GT-R is. the GT-R is within 7 seconds of a stripped down race car with R compound tires while the GT-R has a full interior with AWD and is street legal all costing $20k+ less
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

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Well, my Viper runs R compound tires...










...is what I would say if I had a Viper.






...and R compound tires.

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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

OKay, I don't get it. Its 7 freakin seconds over a 13 MILE track. It would have to be at least a minute difference for me to even care. 7 seconds over 13 miles is not that big a gain. Its not like it completely blew the Corvette or the Nissan out of the water. I don't know if they use the same drivers for all the cars (I doubt they do) but I bet if they did they would all be very close to equal (less than a second or two difference).
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

I don't get the big deal; ok, its a large track that is really challenging... but when people go out and buy a sporty car do they immediately think "Oh damn if this car didn't go fast on the 'ring I'm not getting it". I mean its kinda interesting, but only so much. Another thing I don't get is the Viper... $80k for something as sparse as a Hyundai Accent? Why bother? The Z06 is a better all around car for $10k-$15 less.
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

My car runs like an 11:45 on the Nurburgring, so there!
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Re: 7:22 - Dodge Viper ACR

One thing about the ACR is it's a track car. Much more than anything as a garage queen, or certainly daily driver. So if an individual is looking for a track car, Dodge is pretty much building them one, a quick one, off the floor. No need to buy something and modify the crap out of it to make it a solid track piece.
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