Major Gas Saver - Could This Be "It"?

[AMGoff]

I still haven't read the actual article... but I'll second the notion that local news outlets aren't exactly known for in-depth scientific research... As has been said, they pander to the lowest common denominator for the sake of ratings and since gas prices are on everyone's minds, they're going to a big story on this... I bet they've been running promos for this "big story" all week. Had they used an independent third party to do the test, that would've given it a little more credit... but unfortunately it was done by the same folks who were looking for the highest ratings.

I really didn't care what the news story had to say... I just went right to the product page and immediately, I knew something wasn't right. I love how they say it won't void the car's warranty... I guarantee if you blow your engine up because you bolted on a device that pumps a volatile element such as hydrogen into the air/fuel mixture, the manufacturer isn't going to cover the cost of a new engine.

Just goes to show that any time people have fears, worries, or concerns... there will always be someone else waiting to take advantage of them.

[The Tony Show]

Ahahahahahahaha!

Originally Posted by That dumb web site

This gaseous mixture is actually a better fuel than hydrogen alone. Reason - in many areas of the world, oxygen is in short supply in the air we breathe. Normally, oxygen comprises 21% of our air at sea level. If this percentage falls below 5%, serious consequences, even the death of many people, could occur. For instance, there have been reports of oxygen levels in the 6 to 7% percent range in Tokyo. The widespread use of Brown's gas to power industry and transportation, might actually improve oxygen levels in cities like Tokyo whereas, using hydrogen as a fuel by itself, would tend to leave low oxygen levels unchanged. A low oxygen level in the atmosphere is just another indicator of how serious our environmental problems have become and an excellent reason to convert our civilization to a Brown's gas-fueled future.

Not only does the "Hydro4000" () save you fuel, but it is also capable of saving the people of Japan from asphyxiation.

[Sinister Angel]

Originally Posted by dkozloski

Even that's a waste of money because you have to pay a premium for diesel fuel. That puts you right back to square one.

Jet-A for the win. Last I checked, it's cheaper than diesel

[MauiV]

I know our av center was charging $7.85+ for fuel during Derby. We had 308 corporates on the ground at race time and it felt like the entire NetJet (Execjet, tailnumbers end in QS for QuarterShare) fleet came and went SEVERAL times. More than a few guys had $15,000+ fuel bills. A stretch MD-80 with a Cayman Island call sign came in with all of 6 people on board. That was money well spent.

[submariner409]

Just read the paragraph in Post #22.

That is absolutely the worst and most pathetic, incorrect, impossible line of bullcrap I've ever seen.

Maybe someone else has used P.T. Barnum's line already: "There's a sucker born every minute".

[dkozloski]

Originally Posted by submariner409

Just read the paragraph in Post #22.

That is absolutely the worst and most pathetic, incorrect, impossible line of bullcrap I've ever seen.

Maybe someone else has used P.T. Barnum's line already: "There's a sucker born every minute".

It's no worse that the line of bushwa that the man-made global warming fanatics try to peddle.

[Sinister Angel]

Originally Posted by MauiV

I know our av center was charging $7.85+ for fuel during Derby. We had 308 corporates on the ground at race time and it felt like the entire NetJet (Execjet, tailnumbers end in QS for QuarterShare) fleet came and went SEVERAL times. More than a few guys had $15,000+ fuel bills. A stretch MD-80 with a Cayman Island call sign came in with all of 6 people on board. That was money well spent.

Hrm. I'll have to check a flight release next time I'm at work to see what it is

[Sinister Angel]

Actually...

Originally Posted by Flight release from SKW5901

FLIGHT SEQUENCE: FUEL SUMMARY:
FLT FRM TO TOA AL1 AL2 TAXI B/O ALTF RESV HOLD MINTO RLSF
---- --- --- --- --- --- ---- ----- ---- ---- ---- ----- -----
5901 TVC ORD TVC 210 2102 1813 2461 600 6976 8200

TAKEOFF: TVC RWY 28 FLAPS 20 TEMP 006 FUEL PRICE 3.80
LANDING: ORD RWY 04R FLAPS 45 TEMP 012 FUEL PRICE 3.55

[AAIIIC]

Even if the below paragraph wasn't full of BS, just the horrible grammar alone would raise red flags. That's actually what I thought watching the News5 video clip, too. The spokesman for the Hydro4000 sounded like an idiot.

Originally Posted by Morons

Reason - in many areas of the world, oxygen is in short supply in the air we breathe. Normally, oxygen comprises 21% of our air at sea level. If this percentage falls below 5%, serious consequences, even the death of many people, could occur. For instance, there have been reports of oxygen levels in the 6 to 7% percent range in Tokyo.

There's no "could occur" at all in that scenario. Everybody would asphyxiate, without a doubt. Using the magic of the good ole Wikipedia...

Originally Posted by DiMaio V & DiMaio D. "Forensic Pathology, Second Edition. Chapter 8, Asphyxia", ISBN 0-8493-0072-X 2001

“At oxygen concentrations [in air] of 4 to 6%, there is loss of consciousness in 40 seconds and death within a few minutes” (DiMaio & DiMaio 2001:231).

I don't know about you guys, but I haven't heard anything on the news about millions of Tokyo residents suddenly dying due to low oxygen levels.

As submariner409 can attest, the low limit for O2 on subs is 17%. Even going from 17% to 20% causes a noticeable change in people's energy levels.

Originally Posted by submariner409

Just read the paragraph in Post #22.

That is absolutely the worst and most pathetic, incorrect, impossible line of bullcrap I've ever seen.

Awww, c'mon, submariner409. You know we run around with O2 down in the 5-6% range all the time! We only do it during nap time, though, so nobody really notices the low O2 content.

[trukk]

Well, flarn. It looks like this isn't compatible with my Tornado, Electric Super Charger, or Flux Capicitor. DAMN IT!!!!

-Chris