Major Gas Saver - Could This Be "It"?

[70eldo]

Originally Posted by Red_October_7000

There IS, however, a $4,000 device you can equip on your truck right from the factory that increases its mileage by %60... it's called a Diesel!

Good call!

[dkozloski]

Originally Posted by 70eldo

Good call!

Even that's a waste of money because you have to pay a premium for diesel fuel. That puts you right back to square one.

[submariner409]

If I'm not mistaken, this little scam was beat to death in CF about a year or so back........

Several frequent posters, members of CF, are intimately familiar with the operation: Nuclear submarines use the exact same process to supply oxygen in order to maintain the atmosphere while under water for 80+ days. It is an electrical, electronic, and mechanical operation which requires large amounts of electrical energy and extremely careful monitoring because, in our case, one byproduct is explosive Hydrogen, which we return to the seawater (and which blows up car batteries if you strike a spark nearby while charging). Power-wise, the heat capability of the reactor used allows us to generate vast amounts of electricity while loafing along......a car can't do that.

Nuf ced. Scam - Big time.

[MauiV]

I went to public school so someone may have to explain this math to me....

"Once done, we found that even with an oil change, clean air filter and proper tire pressure, we were averaging roughly 9.4 miles to the gallon."

"With the device on, we were now averaging 23.2 miles to the gallon. That's 61% better than the gas mileage we were previously getting."

from 9.4 mpg to 23.2 mpg is about 150% increase with the calculator in my head.

And these are the people that the public rely on for "facts"? No wonder people in Florida dont know how to fill out a ballot.

[Lord Cadillac]

Recockulous! That's hilarious! Otherwise, the 9 miles per gallon on the Durango raised a red flag for me as well. I thought the same thing as you - that it was a bigger, heavier truck.. And I did notice they never did a regular road test for the truck.

Oh well.. Wishful thinking....

Originally Posted by AAIIIC

Yes, they're actually saying it works because...


It's not like the local news team is a fountain of knowledge when it comes to matters of science. Hell, just their "test" is so full of holes that the results are absolutely meaningless. What truck are they driving that got 9.4mpg driving 55mph on the "giant treadmill" we call a "dynamometer"? That single piece of data immediately raises the bullshit flag - a vehicle rolling on a dyno at 55mph, with no wind resistance to overcome, little rolling resistance, no incline, no nothing, should be barely sipping from the fuel tank. The fact they got 9.4mpg is recockulous.

The difference in mileage could easily have been generated by changing the loading on the dyno. I can run a vehicle on the dyno at 55mph with nearly 0 load (23.2mpg), or I can crank up the load so the driver has to maintain 50% throttle just to maintain the speed (9.4mpg). Wow! Magic!!

And just to cap off the ultra-scientific test, they compare their actual on-the-road test to the dyno test. They got 16.1mpg on the road, and point out that that's 58% better than before. Ummmm, isn't that also 30% worse than your dynamometer test showed? So which number is right? What was the mileage when you did the on-the-road testing prior to installing the Hydro-4000? Ohhhhh, you didn't do that?

As for the science of it, dkozloski's explanation is exactly right. You will use more energy to power the electrolysis process than you get back by burning the hydrogen produced. A quick google will find explanations all over the 'net like the one here - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4111822AAiYMJ0 - that debunk this shit.

Edit: I couldn't help it, I had to go watch the video. When I read the article and it said their "truck" got 9.4mpg I was thinking maybe they had tested the thing on a big news truck - you know, the ones with the satellite dish on top. Instead, it's a freaking Dodge Durango. 9.4mpg from a ****ing Durango? And they report that like it's perfectly normal! What a bunch of idiots.

[The Tony Show]

I love that the dyno test returned 9mpg at a steady 55mph cruise. What are they using for news vehicles- Vipers?

[70eldo]

Originally Posted by dkozloski

Even that's a waste of money because you have to pay a premium for diesel fuel. That puts you right back to square one.

in Europe the diesel is cheaper than gasoline

[dkozloski]

Originally Posted by 70eldo

in Europe the diesel is cheaper than gasoline

Diesel used to be cheaper in the U.S. until low sulphur diesel was mandated. Then the price went out of sight. The nearest refinery to Alaska that can produce low sulphur fuel is in California so the crude is shipped to California, refined, and the diesel shipped all the way back. Somehow wasting all the fuel on transportation is good for the environment.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac

What do you guys think about the statement by Channel 5 News? Are they lying? Or did they really get nearly 60% more mileage from their fuel?

Is it part of the FOX network?

[JTraik]

Why buy snake oil when you can have a snake oil machine.