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Originally Posted by Spyder  What part of the constitution says you can drive a car, drink fresh water, eat a meal in a restaurant or have electricity in your house? |
The constitution is a
check on the federal government, enumerating it's powers. Hell, according to the 9th and 10th Amendments..
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Originally Posted by 9th Amendment The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. |
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Originally Posted by 10th Amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. |
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Not to mention the lack of the constitutions ability to protect you against rape, murder, mayhem, arson, theft or any other sort of detrimental criminal act against your individual world. Your argument there is completely without grounds or sense.
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Oh, hey, I wonder what these state governments are for.
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You will find NO bigger believer than myself, ANYWHERE in this country or out of it, in the Constitution of the United States and the fact that it applies to individuals to protect them against tyranny, oppression and abuse. Based on that and that alone I refuse to argue any "constitutionally based" points on whether murderers, rapists and drug dealers should be allowed to run their "business" or be brought down and stopped.
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Erm... huh? I suppose it's a legit tactic - after all, Al Gore said the debate is done about global warming?
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Anyways, opinions aside, if I get my ass in the shape I need to be in and take the job, I'll be totally happy pulling dirtbags, murderers, rapists, pushers and all other sorts of criminal vermin off the streets.
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Biiiiiiiiiig difference between murder or rape and a drug deal. Big big difference.
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Chances are I'll be shot at, stabbed, beaten up a time or three and fall down more than a few flights of stairs...for not much pay...and good but not amazing benefits. Chances are I'll love every mutha f'ing second of it and I'm not sorry at all if I infringe on someones so-called, self-imposed "right" to be a slimeball or a criminal or a detriment to society, to individuals or to my friends or family.
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See above. If you get off on stopping a consensual transaction between two adults, may god have pitty on your soul.
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don't even begin to tell me it is because of someones own stupidity when a stray bullet flies through the wall of one of my best friends' house from the neighbors during a drug deal gone bad
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Why do I have the gut feeling this might have been prevented if the "war" on drugs didn't exist? As for a dispute during a transaction, what's to keep "drug deal" from being "crazy ass expensive baseball card deal"?
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or when my niece is hospitalized because of a chemical dump from a meth lab
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Or a paint factory, or a battery factory, etc. Should we ban those for that reason? I'm sorry for your niece, but to say that drugs are the only reason that a chemical dump might happen. Hell, the damn Cuyahoga river caught on fire for Christ's sake! That certainly didn't have anything to do with drugs.
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or when my 12 year old step sister witnesses two crank dealers get shot between the eyes on their own front porch by an 80 year old man who has nothing left to live for because they sold bad drugs to the nephew of the poor old guy and he OD'd and they left him for dead in a dumpster behind the local grocery store.
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Yet again man, you gotta be careful with this reason. This line of reasoning would be equivocal to saying that the stock market should be banned because a 20 year old kid blasted his dad's stock broker because he gave him some bad information.
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Don't even BEGIN to tell me that it was my friends fault for living there or my nieces fault for playing in the park where many of us grew up in or my little sisters fault for sitting on the front porch eating a hamburger because it was a nice goddamned day outside and she wanted to enjoy the sunshine and the breeze.
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Don't worry, I'm not.
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Feel how you want about it. I won't think poorly of you or call you a bad person just because you haven't experienced the same things that some of us have.
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And I'm not going to think poorly of you either. I'm friends with a couple of people who are... umm.. politically adverse to me.
But one last point in regards to the actual debate and a direct counter to the innocent people being hurt because of drug consumption (which much of which would go away with decriminalization) - what about
innocent people and
cops getting hurt because of no-knock warrants going down due to bad information. I'll be blunt, I don't participate in drug deals or consume, but at the same time, if someone is breaking into my house, shots will be fired. I'm not going to wait and find out if it's a cop who made an honest mistake based on bad information or if it's some guy pretending to be law enforcement. The whole drug war has brought about these nasty little things called no-knock warrants that certainly butt heads with castle-doctrine.
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Ah, dinner calls. Steaks have been seasoned and I need a shower. First day back to the gym kicked my rear.
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Had steaks myself today. Damn good. As for the PT requirements, what are they? Also, working out with a buddy helps immensely.
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So again, in my three examples of personal experience, you say it is their own fault?
How so?
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Sorry, had that post on the editor for a while while I was watching the Red Wings game. Entered it and didn't check till the game got over. My bad
