American Heroes

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by dkozloski

It might be that he has a more enlightened view of world affairs and isn't stuck in the 60s and 70s.

Ah man, you really believe you have an enlightened view of world affairs?. I want nothing more than our troops to come back safely from a war they need not be in. A war that cant be won cause there is no definition of victory for it. You want them to stay there indefinately and get killed and diabled for nothing. Koz, there were no WMD's, the guy that caused 9/11 was never caught. We are just there brother. The notion of bringing Democracy to that demographic is ludicrous and may I remind you was NOT the reason we went there in the first place.

The video was good and each and every soldier is indeed someones brother/mother/sister/son/uncle/aunt, etc... Why would we want them to stay in that hellhole and die for no reason?. I supported going after Bin Laden, I was all for going into Afghanistan but through lies and deception per our Commander in Chief and his corrupt administration, Afghanistan got shifted to Iraq and here we are funding it all these years later with the blood of our soldiers and money. Call me what you will.

[dkozloski]

The troops that are returning to Fairbanks from Iraq are very encouraged. The surge worked and the Iraqis are becoming very fed-up with the insurgents and are being helpful in turning them in. The Iraqi government is getting a better handle on the running of their country every day. We're winning whether you like it or not. There are far more deaths day to day in Detroit and Washington D.C. than there are in Iraq.

The occupation of Japan lasted seven years after the war ended. Officially the allied occupation of Germany continues to this day because almost 60 years after the end of WWII a peace treaty has never been signed. Americans need to learn some patience. Thank God we have some leaders with vision and who have a firm idea of who the enemy really is that we face in the war on terror. The Muslim extremists have never faltered in their resolve to destroy us for thousands of years and we find it hard to hold out for ten.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by dkozloski

The troops that are returning to Fairbanks from Iraq are very encouraged. The surge worked and the Iraqis are becoming very fed-up with the insurgents and are being helpful in turning them in. The Iraqi government is getting a better handle on the running of their country every day. We're winning whether you like it or not. There are far more deaths day to day in Detroit and Washington D.C. than there are in Iraq.

The occupation of Japan lasted seven years after the war ended. Officially the allied occupation of Germany continues to this day because almost 60 years after the end of WWII a peace treaty has never been signed. Americans need to learn some patience. Thank God we have some leaders with vision and who have a firm idea of who the enemy really is that we face in the war on terror. The Muslim extremists have never faltered in their resolve to destroy us for thousands of years and we find it hard to hold out for ten.

You are joking right?. There is no winning in Iraq. We didn't go there to get a Democracy instilled. Are you forgetting the reasons we were told we were going there?. Are you aware how many times after no WMD's were found the reasoning for being there has changed?. You cant just occupy a country and instill your belief system, it cannot be done. It is and always will be a Muslim nation and there will be a revolution as soon as we leave, whenever we leave. Why wait, lets get the remaining troops home, the result will be the same. Besides man, the mission was declared accomplished in '03 on an air craft carrier. What happened?. Many troops are coming home wounded only to find there homes are gone, their wives bedding with someone else and dead broke. I'm more concerned about them.

[lawfive]

Sigh. Please knock it off, guys. I didn't mean to start a fight but I guess I should have seen it coming.

I served. I support the troops in both senses of the word. I'm a patriot and I believe in a strong national defense. As some here already know, I don't agree with the rationale behind this particular war and I often don't agree with this particular president. But all of that is neither here nor there: this video should stand alone, separate from politics, irrespective of your preference for imperialism or isolationism, militarism or pacifism, liberalism or conservatism. Anybody who isn't moved by this video should have his or her head examined, IMO.

Can't we just leave it at that? There will always be disagreement on this and nobody is going to change anybody else's mind.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by lawfive

Can't we just leave it at that?

Very well spoken. I'd like to leave it at that as well.

[Rolex]

I asked nicely to cut the bull 4 pages ago.