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Bush is a strategic thinker in the land of the 30 second solution for every problem. He's unappreciated at the moment. Years from now we'll know how it turned out. He's content to wait; his critics want closure now. Patience has never been an American trait.
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What?. What exactly are you talking about?. Not supporting a BS war is NOT the same as not supporting the troops. You guys just take it that way. You guys should be more agitated than ANYONE for being duped into fighting and killed in a war that never should have happened and benefited nobody.

Everyone that served in Iraq or any war is a hero in my book. I dont understand the comment about passing down a legacy of service to the kids though. After fighting in Iraq and knowing first hand the corruptness of the government and failed policy, why would anyone want to put their kid through that?.
One, I was talking about serving in the military, period, as opposed to uninformed sermonizing of the type I am subjected to nearly every day regarding this war. For example, I didn't mention Iraq.

Two, none of us were duped. We signed our papers. Matter of fact, re-enlistment rates in the Army and Marine Corps are up during the Iraq War; you might not want to let this fact ruin your version of the world, but Soldiers and Marines, among others, are people who love to fight wars and are choosing to go to fight this war. There are those Soldiers and Marines who oppose this war, who still go back because their Commander in Chief gave the order.

Third, assuming you actually read something other than CNN propaganda, you should read a book called Imperial Grunts by Robert D. Kaplan, or Making the Corps by Thomas E. Ricks. Both books talk about how servicemen's children later join the military themselves, and how military service becomes a family tradition. My grandfather, for example, was an Army medic who was stationed in Japan during Korea; my great uncle is a retired Air Force C-130 crew chief who fought in Vietnam.

Fourth, what is your definition of "supporting the troops", exactly? Waving a flag and saying that you love the troops simply because it is a cultural thing now? Unlike in Vietnam, where hating the troops was fashionable, it is now a norm to respect the troops. To support is to sustain and assist someone in their actions, not to merely like them.
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He's expressed and interest in Delta, so you never know.
Tell him that he has my respect any day.
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Lost a half-bro in the marines.

Have many friends over there right now, some coming home soon and some who just left last friday. More often than not, when I see a man or woman in uniform I thank them. Not for anything in particular, but just for doing what most of us won't, can't or are unwilling to do.

Paraphrased, because I can't find the article in American Rifleman from a few months back. It was a quote from a guy who payed the way for a bunch of marines to go through a specialty combat training program, extra and above what the military does. When asked why he did it, why he wrote a check for something like a hundred thousand dollars, he looked at the writer and said "...because to protect liberty, this country and its people you sign your recruitment papers or sign a check. Here's mine."

Damnitt, I wish I had the article still...gonna go dig it up, if I can, if I didn't toss that particular mag.
I'm sorry for your loss, man.
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Guys, this thread is headed towards being a political discussion or debate, and if that happens it could be locked.
Then let it get locked, but before it does, I can and will defend this war and those who fight it.
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If Iraq winds up with a functioning democratic government there will be a tectonic shift in the Arab world. You will then see what the war was all about, grasshopper. Sometimes these world affairs are a little bit too complicated for the typical superficial American thinker to comprehend.
Exactly, Dkoz, exactly. To understand world affairs, you actually have to bother reading about them, as opposed to watching so-called "documentaries" on youtube and aping Alex Jones talking points.
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Then let it get locked, but before it does, I can and will defend this war and those who fight it.
Nobody condemned those who fight it except the one who ordered you in there in the first place. You like it?. Fine have fun with it!. You are what the boss wants. I aint stepping down bro, you think you are accomplishing something then go ahead and accomplish what you feel you need to but dont put me down for feeling the way I do. I told you I have nothing but respect for the military, your just begging for a fight. The military are simply figures on a chess set, its the player or in this case commander in chief that dictates what those pieces do. I'm not blaming you for anything, I commend you for having the balls to defend your country. I commend you for putting your life on the line. Nobody said anything in this thread that needs defending. My problem is with the President.
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Nobody condemned those who fight it except the one who ordered you in there in the first place. You like it?. Fine have fun with it!. You are what the boss wants. I aint stepping down bro, you think you are accomplishing something then go ahead and accomplish what you feel you need to but dont put me down for feeling the way I do. I told you I have nothing but respect for the military, your just begging for a fight. The military are simply figures on a chess set, its the player or in this case commander in chief that dictates what those pieces do. I'm not blaming you for anything, I commend you for having the balls to defend your country. I commend you for putting your life on the line. Nobody said anything in this thread that needs defending. My problem is with the President.
Are you going to get mad, or respond to my other points like a logical person? I wasn't looking for a fight, but if you want one, let's go. I never accused you of blaming me for anything; all I did was defend both this war and the people who fight it, and explaining a comment that I made earlier.

Thank you for the commendations, sir.
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Enough of the bullshit already.
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Are you going to get mad, or respond to my other points like a logical person? I wasn't looking for a fight, but if you want one, let's go. I never accused you of blaming me for anything; all I did was defend both this war and the people who fight it, and explaining a comment that I made earlier.

Thank you for the commendations, sir.
Defend when threatened, nobody threatened you. No problems here. Peace!
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Defend when threatened, nobody threatened you. No problems here. Peace!
I'm not talking about that kind of defend; I'm talking about defend as in to present one side of things so as to make it apparent why one would see things in a given way.
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You can't discuss ideas with somebody who never had an original one of their own.
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Destroyer, have you ever served before?
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