American Heroes - Page 2

93DevilleUSMC · #16 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tony Show

With a Brother serving in the 1st Ranger BN, the funeral footage is hard to watch. He's in SERE school for three weeks right now, but will eventually head to the sandbox for a 5th time.

Thank you to everyone in this thread who served or is serving our country.

God bless and protect your brother, sir. How long has he been a ranger?

**The Tony Show** · #17 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 05:16 PM

5 years since he enlisted in the Army, and I approximately 3 since he got his Ranger tab. He wanted to go Ranger right out of the gate and his ASVAB scores were through the roof, but still had to wait.

He's been through Boot, Jump, Sniper, Ranger and now SERE- at this point I think he's running out of bases to go for training.

93DevilleUSMC · #18 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tony Show

5 years since he enlisted in the Army, and I approximately 3 since he got his Ranger tab. He wanted to go Ranger right out of the gate and his ASVAB scores were through the roof, but still had to wait.

He's been through Boot, Jump, Sniper, Ranger and now SERE- at this point I think he's running out of bases to go for training.

Let's see, he's still got a few places he could ask to go. he could go to Ft. Bragg if he felt like being SF or Delta

**The Tony Show** · #19 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 09:21 PM

He's expressed and interest in Delta, so you never know.

Spyder · #20 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 10:27 PM

Lost a half-bro in the marines.

Have many friends over there right now, some coming home soon and some who just left last friday. More often than not, when I see a man or woman in uniform I thank them. Not for anything in particular, but just for doing what most of us won't, can't or are unwilling to do.

Paraphrased, because I can't find the article in American Rifleman from a few months back. It was a quote from a guy who payed the way for a bunch of marines to go through a specialty combat training program, extra and above what the military does. When asked why he did it, why he wrote a check for something like a hundred thousand dollars, he looked at the writer and said "...because to protect liberty, this country and its people you sign your recruitment papers or sign a check. Here's mine."

Damnitt, I wish I had the article still...gonna go dig it up, if I can, if I didn't toss that particular mag.

LS1Mike · #21 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 11:09 PM

I spent 1 and 1/2 years in the Army and 11 in the Navy.
I just had a buddy I had kept in touch with for years from the Army not make it back. I had not heard from him in awhile and his mom called to let me know.
She had a list she was going down. Makes my heart ache to think about it.
Thanks to all who still care enough to take America seriously and stand up and defend it.
To folks who don't like America, no one is keeping you here or if you are that unhappy stand up and do something about it. That is what make America great.

hueterm · #22 (**permalink**) 05-10-08, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lawfive

This is the best video I've seen on YouTube, ever. It was created by a fifteen year old girl.

It made me cry.

http://www.youtube.com/v/ervaMPt4Ha0&autoplay=1

Same here...that was inspiring and sad at the same time.

Kind of reminds me when you see a group of soldiers walking through the airport and people stop to applaud. Not everyone is so cynical and critical about everything as it seems sometimes.

Destroyer · #23 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 93DevilleUSMC

Maybe for some, age will change their minds. But more than likely, they'll pass their mindless whining down to their kids, who will be defended by our kids.

The same thing happened with the Vietnam generation. Those who hated both the war and the troops whined and complained about both, and passed their whining bitterness down to the next generation. Those who served passed a legacy of service down to their kids. Still today, you have the doers and the whiners. It happened with the last generation's war, and it will happen in the next generation's war, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbOcJ6kqJAA

What?. What exactly are you talking about?. Not supporting a BS war is NOT the same as not supporting the troops. You guys just take it that way. You guys should be more agitated than ANYONE for being duped into fighting and killed in a war that never should have happened and benefited nobody.

Everyone that served in Iraq or any war is a hero in my book. I dont understand the comment about passing down a legacy of service to the kids though. After fighting in Iraq and knowing first hand the corruptness of the government and failed policy, why would anyone want to put their kid through that?.

**The Tony Show** · #24 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 10:53 AM

Because they are proud of helping disrupt terrorist organizations both training in and being funded by Iraq's Baath party, and want their children to provide a similar service to their Country when another threat arises.

Also, denying people hating the troops in Vietnam shows incredible naivete. My Father was spit on and called a fascist and baby killer upon his return from Vietnam (with a Purple Heart). Mob mentality takes over when people disagree with a war, and soon takes an ugly mutation into hate of the troops. It happens- plain and simple.

lawfive · #25 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 11:23 AM

Guys, this thread is headed towards being a political discussion or debate, and if that happens it could be locked.

CIWS · #26 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 11:26 AM

Nice video Jerry

Destroyer · #27 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tony Show

Because they are proud of helping disrupt terrorist organizations both training in and being funded by Iraq's Baath party, and want their children to provide a similar service to their Country when another threat arises.

Thats not exactly what happened but lets not get overly political here over it.

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Originally Posted by The Tony Show

Also, denying people hating the troops in Vietnam shows incredible naivete. My Father was spit on and called a fascist and baby killer upon his return from Vietnam (with a Purple Heart). Mob mentality takes over when people disagree with a war, and soon takes an ugly mutation into hate of the troops. It happens- plain and simple.

I'm not denying the unfair treatment the Vietnam veterans recieved after the Vietnam war but I dont think that is what happened this time around. If anything most just want the troops to arrive home safely and quickly and for this nightmare of a situation in Iraq to be over with.

dkozloski · #28 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 06:28 PM

If Iraq winds up with a functioning democratic government there will be a tectonic shift in the Arab world. You will then see what the war was all about, grasshopper. Sometimes these world affairs are a little bit too complicated for the typical superficial American thinker to comprehend.

Destroyer · #29 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dkozloski

If Iraq winds up with a functioning democratic government there will be a tectonic shift in the Arab world. You will then see what the war was all about, grasshopper. Sometimes these world affairs are a little bit too complicated for the typical superficial American thinker to comprehend.

Right, it takes a complex thinker like Bush. I'm done and I'm not gonna get hot over it, not here, locust.

dkozloski · #30 (**permalink**) 05-11-08, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

Right, it takes a complex thinker like Bush. I'm done and I'm not gonna get hot over it, not here, locust.

Bush is a strategic thinker in the land of the 30 second solution for every problem. He's unappreciated at the moment. Years from now we'll know how it turned out. He's content to wait; his critics want closure now. Patience has never been an American trait.