SRT-8 Challenger = failure

[MauiV]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Being from KY makes you an expert on the subject!. J/K (sorta), my wife is from KY too.

I see plenty of them toting mullets and meth stained teeth around.

I have also seen them in Cali, Jersey, Hawaii, Michigan, Texas and every other state I have ever visited and the vast majority of them share the same shallow end of the gene pool.

You dont see a lot of Audis and Lexus' in trailor parks and the reason is more than just price.

[thebigjimsho]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Dont have all the toys but reliablility goes a long way with me.

Then why do you own a Mark VIII and an S-10?? egads...

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

Then why do you own a Mark VIII and an S-10?? egads...

Cause they are reliable?. I have owned the Mark VIII for 13 months now. Its up to 27k miles (16k original when I got it last year). It has given absolutely NO problems. Besides oil changes and plugs I have not touched one thing under the hood. Pretty reliable huh?. The S10 I really am not liking, it aint me. Its for sale and I'm getting a bigger truck. It is very reliable though.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by gothicaleigh

You're really hung up on that Seville in my profile, aren't you?
It says 'Cadillac(s)' (and you seem to have missed that). I was honest and listed the ones I have owned.:

Look at your sig again. Says current car is a '94 STS and the others are past Cadillacs.

Originally Posted by gothicaleigh

Okay, I'm not going to pretend that Cadillac had great interiors anywhere throughout the 90's, but for christ man, you're defending this:

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No, not defending it. Its not a luxury car. I'm just saying it works and is not of lower quality than whats in your Caddy.

Originally Posted by gothicaleigh

The 14 year old Seville has been <gasp> reliable with 120k on the odo and is great for the occasional long drive or trip. I would wager that it still churns out nearly all of it's advertised 295hp too, which I have heard is more than could be said of your Cobra brand new.:

True, the '99 Cobra had some issues and didn't make all the advertised hp. Luckily mine has the motor from an '04 Mach 1 and a few mods. Still, if you think your car could beat even a stock '99, you are wrong.



Where are we going with this?. Lets just have a hangdown and get this over with.

[urbanski]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

No, it'll dust yours and pick up more girls too (if need be).

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haha oh shit

[thebigjimsho]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Cause they are reliable?. I have owned the Mark VIII for 13 months now. Its up to 27k miles (16k original when I got it last year). It has given absolutely NO problems. Besides oil changes and plugs I have not touched one thing under the hood. Pretty reliable huh?. The S10 I really am not liking, it aint me. Its for sale and I'm getting a bigger truck. It is very reliable though.

Mark VIIIs are NOT reliable. 27k total miles and 13 months is not a good way to gauge reliability. But at least you told us that was all that was on the car instead of lying to us. So, props to you...

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

Mark VIIIs are NOT reliable. 27k total miles and 13 months is not a good way to gauge reliability. But at least you told us that was all that was on the car instead of lying to us. So, props to you...

Before the '98 I had a '95 w/63k miles and that car ran great too with no probs. Biggest problems are the air suspension and the HID's. These are not big problems anymore though. For $350 I installed 4 conventional struts in my '95 and it rode just as nice. The factory HID's are expensive for the '97-'99 models but for $180 I bought after market bulbs and ballasts when I first got the '98. Now it uses more modern inexpensive HID bulbs. I sold the factory bulbs on Ebay and recouped the $180 I spent for the aftermaket bulb/ballast kit and made a handsome profit. Other known issues are the blend door for the AC/heat and on board electronic problems to a lesser extent. Problems I have not had yet. The drivetrain on the Mark is bulletproof unlike a Northstar. The '98 still rides on the air suspension and it works perfect, when it fails I'll install the coil spring conversion like I did on the '95. Simple enough. For a luxury car its been inexpensive to own so far but time will tell. I'm on Lincoln forums as well and there aren't any real major problems with the cars, you certainly aren't reading about headgaskets blowing like you do on the N* forums here. My assessments are based on my experiences. If the Mark or the Cobra give me a hard time I'll get rid of them and chalk them off as junk. I'll be a little more forgiving with the Cobra because I beat the piss out of it constantly. I hated Fords (except for Stangs which I have a long history with) but have to admit that these are solid cars if not high quality in materials used. I can pick the Mark apart just like I can pick apart a 90's Cadillac or newer CTS as far as corner cutting with the quality of interior plastics and quality of leather used and so forth. I feel the Fords are put together better, no squeeks or rattles from either. I'll simply say that American cars are not up to par when compared to their foreign counterparts in overall feel and quality but I still like them better.

[concorso]

'94 STS = pretentious failure
'99 Cobra 'vert = redneck failure
Challenger = FAILURE GAUGE MALFUNCTION...she's gonna blow!!!
Arguing for/against a brands reliability based on cars that aren't made anymore, or haven't been made yet = ?
Challenger = Failure

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

For what it's worth, I always loved the 1992-97 STS, especially the 93-94's. They were incredibly fast, gorgeous to look at, fun to drive, comfortable, luxurious, and put together pretty well when compared to anything else from GM during that era.

[gothicaleigh]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Look at your sig again. Says current car is a '94 STS and the others are past Cadillacs.

The current Cadillac that I own is a '94 STS. No where does it say to list any other brand.

Originally Posted by Destroyer

No, not defending it. Its not a luxury car. I'm just saying it works and is not of lower quality than whats in your Caddy.

Please. I'm having a hard time thinking of somewhere in the Seville that is made from hollow fischer-price plastic as is found in the Mustang's interior. The whole thing is molded from some foam-rubber material and zebrano wood, which while not exactly anything to brag about, is infinitely better than hard plastics.

Originally Posted by Destroyer

True, the '99 Cobra had some issues and didn't make all the advertised hp. Luckily mine has the motor from an '04 Mach 1 and a few mods.

So the Civic is a great car because somewhere out there someone has transplanted an impressive engine into one. Failing in all other areas, the drivetrain is what the Mustang name rides upon. For them to then fail at that... well, you get the idea.

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Still, if you think your car could beat even a stock '99, you are wrong.

It's not whether it will 'beat' it, but how well it does the job it was built for. A Miata is a terrible car if you just look at what can 'beat' it, but place it in the environment for which it was designed and it's amazing. The Cobra was purpose-built for straight line acceleration, yet failed to even do that well when compared to it's rivals. The Seville on the other hand was praised at it's debut and compared respectably to even it's German rivals.

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Where are we going with this?. Lets just have a hangdown and get this over with.

Excellent.

Now back to the Challenger being a failure...











...because the best thing that can be said for it is that it may be better than a Mustang.

Dammit. I just can't help it.