Gas Strike: Friday, May 2, 2008

[dkozloski]

Originally Posted by RightTurn

Meh. Each disposable diaper tossed into the trash everyday required 1/2 pint of crude oil to produce. It would make more sense to get people to use cloth diapers for all those babies...do you think that would work???

Ain't no force in the world sufficient to make me go back to cloth diapers with the diaper buckets, stink, mess, and piss soaked everything.

[CadiJeff]

refinery capicity!
refinery capicity!
refinery capicity!
oil prices are less of a problem than most think, demand is up refinery capicity is down you do the math.
low domestic oil production(it really is down there)
oh then there is the totally broken oil futures system that has us paying for oil 15 years from now.
then it falls to opec (which we buy very little oil from anyway)
then the unwillingness of oil companies to lower their profit margin(and still get record profits)
then the unwillingness of federal and state governments to lower or suspend taxes on gas.
this is roughly how it breaks down, we are getting screwed at several levels
but you can blame the EPA for the main two.

[Florian]

Originally Posted by DILLIGAF

Us old farts hate drama and would like to trade places with you young bucks

no way Im tradin....Ill stick with my nightly scotch/cigar and relaxation while reading over chasing problematic poon in crappy overpriced bars.


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[Florian]

Originally Posted by dkozloski

Ain't no force in the world sufficient to make me go back to cloth diapers with the diaper buckets, stink, mess, and piss soaked everything.

so youre still wearin the Depends then, Koz?

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[AlBundy]

Originally Posted by Florian

so youre still wearin the Depends then, Koz?

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Owwww no you didn't.

[dirt_cheap_fleetwood]

I have never bought gas from Exxon/Mobile or Shell. Have you heard the profits that Shell just released today. For the FIRST QUARTER of the year (3 months) they made over 7.5 BILLION dollars. They can shove my money up their Middle Eastern a**. I only buy gas from BP because they import the least amount of oil in the US.

I rarely buy gas though. A full tank of 18 gallons will last me 2 and a half weeks. My car gets crap mileage, 14-15 city, but I don't drive a lot. If I need to go to several places, I do it all in one trip. I also ride my bike almost more than I drive my car. Last week I covered a total of 32 miles on my bike and only 35 in my car.

[dkozloski]

Originally Posted by Florian

so youre still wearin the Depends then, Koz?

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My boy uses ATN disposables at about $150/month. I have them airmailed in from Chicago.

I piss in my pants.

How do you spot a Polack with bad kidneys? A rusty zipper and yellow sneakers.

[93DevilleUSMC]

Wow, people nenver learn. We've allready tried this! We'll buy gas the day before this so-called strike, buy nothing on one day, and be back to purchasing gas on the same day. OPEC is not going to miss one day`s worth of your money.

[MauiV]

Originally Posted by dirt_cheap_fleetwood

I have never bought gas from Exxon/Mobile or Shell. Have you heard the profits that Shell just released today.

Problem is that at most stations its hard to tell who their actual provider is.

The gas coming out of the pump often isnt the same as the name on the sign.

[AMGoff]

Good lord... every year something like this comes up and most likely because some hippy-dippy college kid in California had some great epiphany between his second and third joints.

As has already been said... this is nothing more than a fruitless exercise - not buying gas on one day won't accomplish bo-diddly because it does nothing to address any of the reasons of why gas prices have gone as high as they have.

All sides of this argument and their respective solutions seem to do nothing but chase their own tails.

Yes... refining capacity is pretty much maxed out in this country - but that has nothing to do with the fact that the crude which gets refined is a speculative commodity. Yes... the government places a tax on gasoline, but suspending that tax will only do more harm than good because:

A. That 18 cent tax elimination won't be reflected as a drop in price at the pump and,
B. The last thing we need right now is the elimination of another tax because there won't be any cuts in federal spending to go along with it.

Massive deficit spending and subsequent debt is a contributing factor to the problem. If nothing else, the only thing the Federal government needs to cease (at least temporarily) is the stockpiling of crude in the Strategic Reserve... granted, it won't even put a dent in overall consumption, but we need to do things to lessen demand - not increase it like a suspension of the gas tax would do.

None of the solutions being presented currently will do a damn thing to two of the biggest contributing factors, those being the devaluation of the Dollar and global demand. Our dollar doesn't buy as much as it used to and it's not the demand of the US which is skyrocketing... demand in this country has risen at a steady, predictable clip... it's places like China and India where demand is increasing exponentially. There's only so much oil being produced and refined... and more and more people want it.

Is the rest of the world not going to buy gas on that day?

The only thing any of us can do to really make a difference is by personally giving up petroleum period... wanna make a difference? Go buy an old diesel and run it on veggie oil... or go buy a plug-in electric vehicle because sadly, at $3.50 a gallon - we haven't seen anything yet.

[illumina]

Solution #2000 -

Nuke India and have China blamed for it. China and India go to war and reduce remaining population. America will benefit from Eastern population reduction and thus oil will be abundant again here!

Or solution #1999 -

Deal with it until some things like tapping our own oil resources, E85, and boost refining capacity becomes reality.

[Night Wolf]

Originally Posted by MauiV

Im just waiting to see a fuel truck hi-jacking on the news.

Its just a matter of time till some idiot goes Mad Max style.

Not far from it. While watching the news in the breakroom at work, they are saying the amount of gas people are stealing is crazy... everything from pumping gas into their car with your pump when you walk away with it on, to filling up and driving off, but then even steal gas the old fashioned way... and don't even need locking gas cap, they drill right thru the tank, showed some truckers on the TV that had that happen and a small hospital that was delayed 6hrs in getting breathing oxygen to someone because somebody drilled thru the tank in the ambulance to steal the gas.

My company just did a fleetwide campaign to switch from BP 2197/2380 to Mobil JetOil II... they come in the quarts by the thousands, and that is just this one location.... guess that means we support the terrorists now

Personally for my car, I only go to Chevron, the whole techtron and top tier thing did it for me... if not Chevron, then any other top tier... Shell, I think Texaco, tho there are not many around here... I don't think BP is top tier, but their gas still seems to be good.

[EcSTSatic]

My plan is to use less. Keep the cars tuned and maintained and plan my trips. I even picked up a Ford Escort so I could garage the van. Americans are going to have to learn what the rest of the world already knows.

Here's an education in layman's terms.
How gas prices work

[ewill3rd]

We still pay half of what most countries residents pay at the pump.
All I can do is conserve... which I have been doing for years.

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Why does this keep coming up???