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Old 04-29-08, 11:16 AM
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

Wow, they are pretty cheap! I am going to have to find one locally and test drive one, might be my next daily driver until I have enough to buy a newer Cadillac. The looks are far superior to the '93 Cartier TC I had and it appears they can be modded. Hmmm.....

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I just bid on that one, I am the high bidder but reserve not met.
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Not to be a patch on RWD B Body
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...





You have to love this picture from that 2002 TC Touring ad!

It keeps things in perspective!
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

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They should have put the 32 valve motor in the Touring sedan, then even I would be interested!

A LT1 with the modifications that gentleman put on his modded TC would be running low 14s easy.

If you want more modern features, go with the Town Car Touring, they are still depreciating while the Fleetwoods of all generations are slowly appreciating.
the 32v 4.6 dosen't do well with automatics though.... that was the biggest problem with it in the Mark VIII..... I don't think many original buyers would have opted for a 5 or 6-speed Town Car

the LT1 would be running low 14's with those mods, the 4.6 SOHC is running high 14's..... 5.7 vs 4.6. Either way, it's still pretty darn respectable.
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

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That's kind of what I was thinking re: TCT -- the FWBs are just as hard to find in the condition/miles I want, and more $$ and several years older. Plus the front seats of the TC have more room and it's shorter overall and would fit in garage...

Also, more of them have moonroofs and the Alpine stereo would have to be better than whatever is in FWB.
Would you only be interested in '98+?

My '96 has a 145-watt 9-speaker JBL sound system that I think is pretty darn awesome for a factory 1996 system

Either way, yeah, it's not hard at all to find these things in mint shape with low miles.

pretty much ANY Town Car can be modified quite well... engine is shared with the Mustangs, steering/suspension/chassis is shared with the Crown Vic... I've seen all sorts of 80's, 90's and now 00's modded.
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

Aside from the black bird's eye maple wood trim, what did the touring edition have over the "plebian" Town Car? I don't see any sort of Center Console/Floor shift/Bucket Seat setup, or even a Tachometer, so it's not as sporty as a DTS.
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

Wasn't the 32 valve used in the Marauder? It could easily have been adapted to the Touring Town Car.

I can't find one of these Touring cars locally. I did find a 2000 Cartier with every option. I might go test drive it this weekend...

I just can't believe how bad these cars have depreciated. A dealer near me has a loaded 2003 Cartier for $11,500!! It has 68K miles.
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

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Aside from the black bird's eye maple wood trim, what did the touring edition have over the "plebian" Town Car? I don't see any sort of Center Console/Floor shift/Bucket Seat setup, or even a Tachometer, so it's not as sporty as a DTS.
AFAIK, different wood, unique wheels, less chrome, tighter suspension
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

Also if you notice the grille is not all chrome. I like how the Touring TC looks. It also has different gearing 3.55 I think.
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Re: Speaking of Lincolns...

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Wasn't the 32 valve used in the Marauder? It could easily have been adapted to the Touring Town Car.

I can't find one of these Touring cars locally. I did find a 2000 Cartier with every option. I might go test drive it this weekend...

I just can't believe how bad these cars have depreciated. A dealer near me has a loaded 2003 Cartier for $11,500!! It has 68K miles.
Yup, it was used in the Marauder.....

and thats exactly why everyone complains about the Marauder not really reaching full potential.... the 32v doesn't like the automatic. It's a totally different animal infront of a manual trans tho.

These cars depreciate... same as GM/Cadillac... I agree tho, for less then the cost of a brand new Kia Rio, Americas cheapest car, you can get a top of the line Lincoln, which is actually eaiser maintain for the DIY and possibly even cheaper.... but you loose 8 or 10mpg

The same depreciation is what allowed me to get my nearly fully loaded '96 Signature in great shape Florida-owned shape with 93k for $3,500..... which seems to be what an average '98 Corolla is going for

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Aside from the black bird's eye maple wood trim, what did the touring edition have over the "plebian" Town Car? I don't see any sort of Center Console/Floor shift/Bucket Seat setup, or even a Tachometer, so it's not as sporty as a DTS.
I covered it in my previous replies.

Lincon wasn't trying to push the Town Car to be a "sporty" rival to the DTS.... thats what the LS was for. What was different cosmetically? IIRC some chrome was painted, different wheels, inside it got a uniqe two-tone leather interior as well as the wood trim.

The biggest differences are what the eye dosen't see tho, the lower gearing, but most notably, the firmer suspension. As I said before... stiffer shocks and springs, and thicking sway bars as well as other goodies.

Town Car didn't get a tach until the 2006? redesugned interior, when they all got them... I agree tho, a tach would be nice... but bucket seats and a floor shifter? so it can be like every other car on the road? Personally that is one of the things that appeals to me about the TC, because it's the last of it's kind.... I don't think I'd even want bucket seats or a floor shifter in a TC.

The Town Car Touring Sedan wasn't set out to change the whole automotive world... it was simply an option package otherwise not normally on such a car. The amount of them sold reflects the amount bought, which really shows the overall demand for them when new, from the original buyer. It isn't a package that screams look at me, and in fact, many people probably have a Touring Sedan TC and don't even know it, other then it may seem to ride a firmer then a normal TC.... sorta like my '96, only way to tell by looking at it is from the wheels, which were normally Cartier-only... otherwise it keeps quiet.... until I want to have fun with it in the corners when it starts to behave unlike any normal Town Car
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