2010 Camaro at the Ring

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by JimmyH

because it's not a GT-R?

Don't you have to meet up with Optimus Prime somewhere for a little hanky panky?

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Blackout

It seems as if GM is walking down the exact same road as the last gen F bodies. Stuff the same engine from the Corvette under the hood and with the pricing of the Camaro you could spend the couple extra grand and have yourself a Corvette. GM killed the F body cars because pricing was too close to the Corvette. I'm just hoping they don't do the same thing again. They have to have a decent sized price gap between the two

Back in '94 I bought a pretty loaded new Z28 w/6spd and t tops for $18k. That was half the price of a Vette!. Towards the end of the run they were getting up there in price. GM needs to keep this car competitive with the Mustang in terms of price and offer more performance (which it will). I really liked the styling of the new Camaro in the pics circulating the net but that one in the video just looked a little obtuse to me. I am a fan of every generation of Camaro including the 4rth gen and hope this one doesn't flop.

[The Tony Show]

Remember 2 years ago when everyone proclaimed the Camaro project dead due to CAFE and GM abandoning RWD? Haha....good times.

[LS1Mike]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Back in '94 I bought a pretty loaded new Z28 w/6spd and t tops for $18k. That was half the price of a Vette!. Towards the end of the run they were getting up there in price.

For the most part a Vette is over 40,000 new, you could get the 4th gen fully load TA for about 26000 and the Z28 for about 23000.
Part of the reason the F-body stopped selling was no one really knew what there capabilities were for the price.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by LS1Mike

For the most part a Vette is over 40,000 new, you could get the 4th gen fully load TA for about 26000 and the Z28 for about 23000.
Part of the reason the F-body stopped selling was no one really knew what there capabilities were for the price.

Yeah I know, my '94 stickered a little over $20k and I got it down to $18k and change. Everyone that knows cars knew the capabilities of the fbody cars, even the Mustang guys bought Mustangs knowing the fbody cars were faster. What killed the last generation fbody cars IMO ironically was the part I pesonally like best about them: they were too low and the pedals were too far in plus the dash was hard too see out of for shorter people. I'm 6'2", the car fit me well and I had no complaints but I believe the Mustang outsold it for those reasons. The Mustang (94-04) is more comfortable for entry/exit, you sit more upright and have a better view out the window. For performance guys like us, we dont care but GM and Ford both heavily rely on the sale of the V6 models and those buyers were going with the Mustang as well.

[MauiV]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

GM needs to keep this car competitive with the Mustang in terms of price and offer more performance (which it will).

Like the GT500KR's that are fetching $90,000+ with dealer markups?

Chevy better drop the LSA in if they want to keep up with that car. I am not a fan of Pony cars (or Fords for that matter) but the GT500 is a beast (although an overpriced one) and IMO the best looking car Ford currently makes.

[LS1Mike]

Originally Posted by MauiV

Like the GT500KR's that are fetching $90,000+ with dealer markups?

Chevy better drop the LSA in if they want to keep up with that car. I am not a fan of Pony cars (or Fords for that matter) but the GT500 is a beast (although an overpriced one) and IMO the best looking car Ford currently makes.

LSA? Lobe seperation angle? or LSX, because if you mean the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS6, LS7, LS9, LY6, L76, L92, etc etc, You might as well chuck your V in the trash too, these motors make far better power and get better mileage then the Ford Mod motors (4.6, 5.4). People who think pushrod motors are outdated don't really know how old OHC motors are. The new LSX motors have DOD and VVT and get the job done just fine.

[The Tony Show]

LSA is the powertrain code for the Supercharged 6.2L in the new CTS-V.

[LS1Mike]

got ya, miss read his post, they might want to drop in the LSA...Sorry Maui.

The plan is for that motor to be used it the SS, well right now anyway. Who know stuff changes daily with cars and rumors.

[CadillacSTS2003]

Z28 is plenty for me....