I sat in the Lincoln MKS yesterday

[thebigjimsho]

Originally Posted by Blackout

The LaCrosse looks alright, it mostly depends on the color IMO. I was digging the Park Avenue Ultra that was at the NYC auto show though. But the picture that was posted of the MKS in silver doesn't do it justice. The one they had at the NYC auto show was beautiful. If you haven't seen it in person then reserve your judgment until you do see it in person. I was iffy about it in the pics but once I saw it there was a huge difference. What I would love would be for the TT 3.5 version to come in AWD and with a stick shift option As for Lincoln's usual castration on their vehicles, ehhh.......it's a hit and miss thing. The new Navigator's exterior is ugly but the interior is beautiful. The MKX looks great in certain colors but looks ugly as sin in others. The one consistent that I do like with Lincoln is their interiors. Since I spend most of my time inside the car I'm much more worried about the interior then what the exterior looks like.

I saw one in Boston and it was bleh. And again, the trunk opening was putrid. It will flop. As for the Navigator, unless they just redesigned the interior, that is also bleh. The retro gauges are about the worst thing I've ever seen in a modern automobile...

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

I saw one in Boston and it was bleh. And again, the trunk opening was putrid. It will flop. As for the Navigator, unless they just redesigned the interior, that is also bleh. The retro gauges are about the worst thing I've ever seen in a modern automobile...

I just woke up so I'm still a little out of it. I'm assuming you mean the MKS where I bolded the font. I haven't seen the trunk open up or anything yet so I can't comment on it. But where are you guys seeing these things at? I'm guessing Sal saw one at a Lincoln dealership but any idea as to how the hell they got a hold of one so early?

[thebigjimsho]

The one I saw was at the New England Auto Show. And while they had it on display, you couldn't get in. But they had every door open, including the trunk. I know you and your dad could appreciate that if this car was ever considered as a livery offering, the trunk opening alone makes it an epic FAIL.

I hear the new Hyundai sedan has more interior room than a 7 series. If it has appropriate room and has an L option, it may be a viable candidate as my next sedan. The new DTS/STS is an option if RWD and big enough. And if the Town Car gets progressively worse, as it did from 2004 to 2007, I will NOT buy one again, even with the space and dependable drivetrain. Lincoln has cut corners and cut costs to the point where it's blatantly obvious. And this is a Wixom car, not an Ontario version...

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

The one I saw was at the New England Auto Show. And while they had it on display, you couldn't get in. But they had every door open, including the trunk. I know you and your dad could appreciate that if this car was ever considered as a livery offering, the trunk opening alone makes it an epic FAIL.

Besides the TC I don't see anything in Lincoln's stable that IMO would make a good livery car. But at the NYC auto show they had one on a turn table and the only thing that was open was the drivers side door so that sucks for me. I would have loved to gotten inside and check it out. What seems to be the problem with the trunk BTW? Not disagreeing or anything with you, I have yet to even see the trunk open so I dunno what the issue is.

I hear the new Hyundai sedan has more interior room than a 7 series. If it has appropriate room and has an L option, it may be a viable candidate as my next sedan. The new DTS/STS is an option if RWD and big enough. And if the Town Car gets progressively worse, as it did from 2004 to 2007, I will NOT buy one again, even with the space and dependable drivetrain. Lincoln has cut corners and cut costs to the point where it's blatantly obvious. And this is a Wixom car, not an Ontario version...

As of right now the Hyundai Genesis would be my #1 sedan to check out as soon as it comes out. After seeing it at the NYC auto show I LOVE IT! As for the interior room I believe the Azera also has more interior room then the 7 series as well (I may be wrong but I think I remember reading that somewhere) as for an L option, I haven't heard anything about an extended version of the Genesis but if the sedan sells very good it would be in their best interests to look at the idea of an L version. It would be a great option for livery companies seeing that they are cheap and you also get the 10 year/100,000 warranty to boot. But I did get into a STS at the NYC auto show and I honestly wasn't impressed. The car looks huge on the outside but on the inside it felt cramped especially for a full size sedan. But there are so many options right now for damn near every catagory out there that it's hard to think of every option

[thebigjimsho]

The trunk opening is tiny. While the trunk size looks OK, it would be very difficult to get luggage in when it nears full.

And the rear end looks just like a Saturn Aura. Not saying that's bad, but...

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

The trunk opening is tiny. While the trunk size looks OK, it would be very difficult to get luggage in when it nears full.

Oh ok. Yeha, for livery vehicles you want a nice big old trunk so you can stuff the luggage in without any problems.

And the rear end looks just like a Saturn Aura. Not saying that's bad, but...

Kinda sorta

[Night Wolf]

The Town Car really is the last of its kind

That MKS looks good tho.... man this MK-stuff is annoying..... gotta say tho, seeing the direction of the new Lincoln, not saying it's bad, but it makes me apperciate my '96 more... last generation to carry on real Lincoln styling from the 70's, I like it.

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by Night Wolf

The Town Car really is the last of its kind

That MKS looks good tho.... man this MK-stuff is annoying..... gotta say tho, seeing the direction of the new Lincoln, not saying it's bad, but it makes me apperciate my '96 more... last generation to carry on real Lincoln styling from the 70's, I like it.

You can thank BMW and Mercedes for all of these dumb letters and number combos as names for cars. As for the TC it really is the last of it's kind, but I guess with time comes change. If they would give the TC a better motor I think that would make a decent difference in what people think about the car. I haven't really followed the TC all that much so I have no idea as to what changes have been made with the car over the years

[The Tony Show]

Every time I see a Lincoln I'm amazed at how butt ugly today's Lincoln product is, from the oddball exteriors to the strange, upright vertical lines of the interior. I won't even go into the whole Ford/Mazda platform sharing issue....

[Blackout]

Originally Posted by The Tony Show

I won't even go into the whole Ford/Mazda platform sharing issue....

You act as if platform sharing is a Ford only thing