Why Are Most H2 Owners So Ridiculously Defensive?

[Jesda]

But back then it was the only real luxury full size 4x4 you could get.

[Playdrv4me]

Originally Posted by Jesda

But back then it was the only real luxury full size 4x4 you could get.

Depends on what your definition of "THEN" is, the Range Rover debuted in 1981.

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

What do those corduroy inserts feel like?

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Good lord, look at this thing! How could you not like it, atleast it's exterior and interior appearance and luxury features.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-...QQcmdZViewItem








Look at it....that timeless, masculine, classy design; that leather lined, (faux) wood trimmed, deep pile carpeted cabin...it's truly, truly the Rolls Royce of SUV's in the '80s and early '90s. The only thing I wish they had was a fully automatic climate control.

[AMGoff]

Originally Posted by Koooop

I seem to recall the giant POS GW was a 401 4bbl, which was junk. I guess all of these things didn't have the Limited option.

I also recall the average buyer of a Limited made in excess of $125,000 per year, which was good money by the standard of the day.

The Limited was heavy on luxury and would go anywhere, but a rattle box none the less. You could stick your finger out over the window frame when the door was closed! Wadda (go anywhere) pile.

LOL

Like I said... I have little experience with the older Wagoneers... so I can't say one way or another. I believe the 401 was only an option on the FSJs from '75-'79 and was never offered in the '84-'91 GW... after which the 4.2 straight six was brought back into the line, which left the 360 as the top engine choice. With the amount of different engines and transmissions used throughout its 28 year run, it's not surprising that some bad ones would slip through. Towards the end of the 60s, they even used a Buick 350 in some of later Super Wagoneers.

But... I can only speak of the final run, '89-'91 GWs... and by that point they had almost three decades to iron all the wrinkles out, so all in all they were pretty solidly made.

[Playdrv4me]

There's alot of aftermarket outfits that completely restore those late 80s Waggies, almost to the extent of the restorations you see on classic cars, and they can sell in the multiple thousands of dollars for a pristine example. They are notorious for rusting in all the small seams and crevices where the body panels come together as well as normal spots like rocker panels so if you want one its important it isn't a rustbucket.

I place those last few years Waggies in the same category as the W126 Benz, timeless body from a completely different era.

[AMGoff]

Originally Posted by Playdrv4me

Depends on what your definition of "THEN" is, the Range Rover debuted in 1981.

If we want to get really technical... the Grand Wagoneer, as we think of it and as I have, debuted in 1978 as the Wagoneer Limited... it came with powered leather seats, power everything else, air conditioning, a tilt wheel, cruise control, the trademark woodgrain trim... and best yet - a price tag of about $11,000... in 1978 dollars. Adjusted for today, that's between $35-40K.

They changed the name of the "Wagoneer Limited" to the "Grand Wagoneer" in 1984 after the introduction of the XJ Cherokee and Wagoneer.

Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792

What do those corduroy inserts feel like?

They actually feel like any other seat... they're neither more nor less comfortable than would all leather or plain cloth. If anything... I'd say they tend to hold up rather well.

I'm glad you through those pics up... it just goes to show how handsome that interior is, even to today's eyes... and again, the exterior is just classic. We're supposed to be giving all of the vehicles their big spring cleaning this weekend... I'll have to try and snap a few pics of the old gal.

[dkozloski]

When my nephew pulled into the driveway with his GW the first thing I noticed was the tiny stream of anti-freeze squirting out between a couple of bars on the grill and twenty feet out front. Not a good start and it got worse from there. At that tme he was on his second radiator. The seats in his were some kind of doggahyde and were split with the stuffing coming out. He said that happened in the first cold winter. The next time I saw it he had them covered with a GI blanket. The transfer case made all kinds of strange noises and eventually pooped the bed.

My boss at the time had one as well but a lot lower milage. Everything about it shook going over a washboard road. It acted to me like the shock package was tuned for some other suspension because the wheels bounced up and down like there were no shocks at all. It was almost undrivable on a gravel road.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Koooop]

If it was only squirting out anti-freeze it must have been out of oil, ps fluid, brake fluid, transmission fluid, diff fluid, transfer case fluid and not to be forgotten the windshield washer reservoir must have been empty as well.

But when you mix those all togther they can paint a pretty picture on a parking lot.

Come on, the seats in a Limited were comfortable like a lazyboy sofa. Come to think of it, that was the only thing that didn't fail!

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by gary88

It's bollocks, you bloody Yank!

Back when I had my '93 K5 Blazer with a 350, I calculated out the gas mileage to be 8-9 miles around town and 13 on the highway. With a 27 gallon tank, I'd be lucky to get 250 miles out of it.

My 79 Regency (with the 6.6) got me around 9mpg around town. about 10 on the highway. 11 if I kept it under 70.