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08-15-07, 10:52 AM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Does it have wheels? Odds are I've driven it. | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TPA / STL Age: 100 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. I believe that, Ive seen some weird stuff with all the cars ive insured.
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08-15-07, 11:07 AM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Poor man's STS--> '00 Regal GS. | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Twin Cities, MN Age: 22 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Well that '01 Black/Beige ETC sold. So now there are no other Eldorados in my price/mileage/year range, so it's all about the germans now! LOL! There are a few '02s at a Cadillac dealer, one is a crimson ESC and the other is a White ECS, both are 22-23k...too much money!
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08-15-07, 12:09 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Does it have wheels? Odds are I've driven it. | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TPA / STL Age: 100 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. S320 it is. | 
08-15-07, 01:32 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Poor man's STS--> '00 Regal GS. | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Twin Cities, MN Age: 22 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. I called up to the local M-B dealer to get prices for maintenance items on a 98 S320. They were surprisingly cheap!
Four Wheel Brake Job (pads for all 4 wheels, 4 rotors, 4 sensors): $488.12
Water Pump: $209.66
Alternator: $339.42
Granted, this is at dealer cost + 20%, but still, these are very cheap for M-B factory parts!
I called my dad to let him know about this, and he was amazed at how cheap they were for a Mercedes. He said the S320 sounds like a good car! Wants to see pictures of them when I get home tonight. But it was funny, he said he remembered sitting in them at the auto show when they were new and they didn't seem as luxurious as a Cadillac, then I explained to him how it was a different sort of luxury and how the 3.2 I-6 is to M-B what the 3.8L V6 is to GM...solid, bulletproof, reliable, not too fast but decent.
I think I'm game for a S Class! | 
08-15-07, 02:19 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): 4.9 STS and stuff. | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Louis MO Age: 28 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Wow, thats better than Infiniti. Ask around to find out who the best local eurocar mechanic is. | 
08-15-07, 03:03 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Does it have wheels? Odds are I've driven it. | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TPA / STL Age: 100 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. For petes sake thats better than alot of CADILLAC dealers for that matter! | 
08-15-07, 04:02 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2000 Seville STS | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa FL Age: 35 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Very true. BTW Ian, I wonder who will get worse gas mileage... your Range Rover, or Sal's Escalade.  | 
08-15-07, 04:09 PM
|  | Auto Enthusiast Cadillac(s): NONE | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downers Grove,IL Age: 29 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. The S320 gives you the maintenance of a w124 E class with the luxury of a w140 S-class.
The leather and interior might be simple, but MB did that on purpose. In the pre-daimler-chrysler years, MB was all about functionality and not razzle dazzle.
This ended with the 1999.5/2000 models. IMO the w140 will outlast Cadillacs of the same era mechanically and cosmetically. Look at some high mileage w140 cars and the leather is still nearly flawless. Then take a look at some high mileage Cadillacs... eh, not so much.
Keep us posted on your decision.
Have you even drive a S320 yet Chad? If not, go and drive a STS/ETC first and then drive the S320, making sure you stretch it out on the autobah..errr.. I mean highway. You will see a big difference. Just ask Nick.
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08-15-07, 04:36 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Poor man's STS--> '00 Regal GS. | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Twin Cities, MN Age: 22 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. I've yet to drive an S320, but I've driven that S500, so aside from the difference in acceleration and power, I know what to expect. In the W140 brochures I have, they quote the 0-60 time for all S320s as 8.8 seconds, versus 8.1 for the S420, 7.2 for the S500 and 6.3 for the S600. Now seeing as how the 0-60 time for the S320 is very close to that of my buddy's '93 Maxima SE, I have an idea of what the performance should be like. But I have a feeling that M-B might have given conservative quotes regarding those times, so it might be a bit quicker... Either way, 8.8 seconds isn't horrible and it's not great..it's just mediocre. Oh well, can't have it all. FWIW, my deVille is like 8 seconds flat to 60, so the performance (atleast around town) won't be as good as what I've got now. I think the S320 will be quicker on the highway though.
And I know it's nowhere near the Northstar in terms of performance, and I don't expect it to be. | 
08-15-07, 04:58 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Does it have wheels? Odds are I've driven it. | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TPA / STL Age: 100 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Man, trust me. Once that car reaches its stride and you get the mass MOVING, it is PLENTY quick. I thought the Range Rover was going to feel slow on the highway too but it DOESNT, even being a full second or more behind the 345hp previous gen Escalade. It just takes a little more to get these cars moving from a standstill. You have never seemed like the type to me that is overtly concerned with stoplight racing anyway. | 
08-15-07, 05:26 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): Does it have wheels? Odds are I've driven it. | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: TPA / STL Age: 100 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Heres a neat page on the intricacies of W124 and W140 A/C repair. You were indeed correct, Chad. The W140 requires 22 labor hours of book time, but I also found out that just like with our Caddy's, you can use the electronic temperature control module in the dash to run many useful diagnostics on the climate control system. http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic40142.html | 
08-15-07, 05:34 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): '05 Dodge RAM Daytona, '67 Cutlass 'vert, 96 Dodge B1500 van | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Age: 38 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Quote:
Originally Posted by Playdrv4me Man, trust me. Once that car reaches its stride and you get the mass MOVING, it is PLENTY quick. | Thats what I've been saying, on the highway the car is NOT slow. Nail it at 60 or 70 and it will push you into your seat. I'm not calling it fast but I am saying it aint bad.  | 
08-15-07, 05:38 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): '05 Dodge RAM Daytona, '67 Cutlass 'vert, 96 Dodge B1500 van | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Age: 38 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Quote:
Originally Posted by 96Fleetwood The S320 gives you the maintenance of a w124 E class with the luxury of a w140 S-class.
The leather and interior might be simple, but MB did that on purpose. In the pre-daimler-chrysler years, MB was all about functionality and not razzle dazzle.
This ended with the 1999.5/2000 models. IMO the w140 will outlast Cadillacs of the same era mechanically and cosmetically. Look at some high mileage w140 cars and the leather is still nearly flawless. Then take a look at some high mileage Cadillacs... eh, not so much.
Keep us posted on your decision.
Have you even drive a S320 yet Chad? If not, go and drive a STS/ETC first and then drive the S320, making sure you stretch it out on the autobah..errr.. I mean highway. You will see a big difference. Just ask Nick. | Shut the door on a Benz, any Benz (99 and older) and listen to that vault like "thunk". Now try that on a newer Caddy and it feels, well, like a Cavalier does. My wife's Deville was definately faster but the S320 is so much better driving and feels so much more substantial that you will never even notice or care. | 
08-15-07, 05:43 PM
|  | Auto Enthusiast Cadillac(s): NONE | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Downers Grove,IL Age: 29 | | | Re: Video test drive review: 1995 Mercedes Benz S500. Not to mention, since the S320 does not have the leveling suspension, you can put a nice set of H&R springs with Bilsteins and make it handle
There is quite a bit of aftermarket for these cars, just check out that S32 link I gave you earlier in this thread.
Oh! And you can get a S600 grill cheap on eBay.  | 
08-15-07, 05:44 PM
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