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04-27-07, 12:41 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 05' CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Age: 24 | | | My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Well here is my current main drive (OS and programs only) http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=83
and I've finally come to the realization that it is slower than dirt..my 'backup' drive is faster http://www.directron.com/7l300s0.html
OK, so I'm happy with my 300gb but my 80gb (main) has got to go, what do you recommend? I'm running and AMD 3800+ x2 x64 w/2gb ram I hardly ever max out my cpu usage or my memory, so I attribute the slow speeds to my HD..any good 10k hd's out there? or are there slower ones that perform just as well....also, if I get a new drive is there a program I can use to copy everything from my slow HD to the new one, including the MBR?? any help is appreciated...thanks.
oh ya, no SCSI...just sata..dont wanna spend that much money 
Unless SCSI isn't as expensive as it used to be.
Also, how do I know what sata I currently have?? sata150 sata3.0gb????? very confusing....I haven't picked up my pc mag in a while
oh ya, heres the link to my MOBO http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...del=K8N_Neo4-F
one more thing, on new-egg, whats difference between 'retail' and 'oem'?? All I see is price difference...looking at the WD 150gb Raptors.
Last edited by nikon; 04-27-07 at 01:07 PM.
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04-27-07, 02:12 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): A boat | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Traverse City/MP, Michigan Age: 24 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. I'm gonna say you have the 1.5 SATA because it *should* be marked otherwise if it wasn't 1.5
I'm quite pleased with my Seagates (that I have RAID 5'd - thats my backup array though). If you wish, I can post my specs. | 
04-27-07, 02:27 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 FTS | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dover, DE Age: 26 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. When i first read the title I was thinking to myself, "How can one's HDTV be slower than molasses?" lol | 
04-27-07, 02:30 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): 2004 Customized black on tan 3.6L CTS | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Age: 27 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Western Digital Raptor drives. Nuff said. | 
04-27-07, 02:43 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 FTS | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dover, DE Age: 26 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by nickc50310 Western Digital Raptor drives. Nuff said. | What he said or Seagate. I upgraded my old computers HD with a Seagate and it worked pretty damned good | 
04-27-07, 02:44 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 05' CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Age: 24 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Quote:
Originally Posted by nickc50310 Western Digital Raptor drives. Nuff said. | Thats what I was looking at and they seemed pretty good...only bout 200$ too...they seem kinda old though (the ones I saw on newegg) everything else was scsi this, or sataII that. | 
04-27-07, 03:47 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2000 Seville STS | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago Area Age: 26 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. I too would have to agree on Raptors (I dont think there are many 10k SATA).. Or better yet Raptos in Raid... You have sata1.5 it says under the IDE/SATA specs. I still need to get mine in Raid 0. But was told notron ghost doesnt work very well over 100gb. oh yea.. Nikon Norton Ghost works pretty good.
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04-27-07, 03:52 PM
| | my name is Tiffany Cadillac(s): 05 CTS-V | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San 'tone, TX | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. *paging CIWS* | 
04-27-07, 10:22 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 05' CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Age: 24 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. | 
04-28-07, 05:10 AM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): 2002 Aspen White Escalade | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bayside, NYC Age: 24 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. I have the same motherboard on my media center computer. I have 3 WD SATA drives hooked up to it. Two are in a RAID 0, striped to 500gig. The third is 80gig and has the OS on it.
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04-28-07, 09:47 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 1998 Seville STS | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Massachusetts Age: 26 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. I'd be one of the first to suggest Raptor's but their price puts them in a handicap. Then I read this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/03/...ges_wd_raptor/
It has good info and the conclusion is certainly something to think about when comparing price vs capacity. The Raptors will still be faster, in actual accessing speeds, but over all they don't offer anything else better. I'd take the 6ms access speed hit if I could hit almost a TB versus the ~300GB space with current RAID 0 Raptors.
Then I read this article and I started to real question WD's Raptors, course this thing cost more but...just read the article: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04/...ansfer_diagram
Gotta run, enjoy! | 
04-28-07, 11:08 AM
|  | Moon Parasite Cadillac(s): 2006 STS-V BlackonBlack / 2005 CTS-V Redline (traded in) | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: D/FW Tejas | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. I just bought a retail Seagate 500gig Sata2 (300) drive at Frys for 119.00 out the door. Didn't really need it, but hey 500 Gig stores a lot of movies
(Personal Opinion) Most folks should be satisfied with the current level of Sata2 drives, unless you're doing something like video rendering and capture direct to drive. Then something in Raptor flavor would be the way to go if you didn't care to mess with SCSI. But I would still probably not use the Raptors as the main drive and leave that to a Sata 2 drive and only capture / render on the Raptors. 
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04-28-07, 03:14 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara, 1988 IROC-Z, 2000 STS (gone) | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Age: 33 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Another point to consider is that RAID on almost all motherboards isn't true hardware RAID.
Compare it to the old Winmodem days.
As far the OS is concerned, it's hardware RAID, but in reality it robs the procesing power of your CPU to perform the RAID work. Not good.
I agree that Raptors are the way to go, or SCSI if you can afford them, as in either case, you need to stump up for a proper hardware RAID card.
2 or 3 Raptors or SCSI drives in a RAID 0 stripe will haul ass. | 
04-28-07, 03:55 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): A boat | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Traverse City/MP, Michigan Age: 24 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Does anyone here run RAID 5 other than myself? | 
04-28-07, 04:33 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2000 Jeep Wrangler Sahara, 1988 IROC-Z, 2000 STS (gone) | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Age: 33 | | | Re: My HD is slower than molasses...geeks inside. Not inside my computer, I have an external RAID 5 array that hooks up via firewire 800 however. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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