: XM and Sirius merge - will it eventually render our radios obsolete?



davedogcaddy
02-21-07, 09:12 PM
I'm sure by now you guys have heard about the propsed merge between XM and sirius. What do you guys think? If this goes as planned - how will this work?? I mean the XM and sirius radios use different signals/chipsets and are incompatible with one another so unless they keep streaming it to both types of radios then a bunch of people (either XM owners or Sirius owners) will have factory installed radios that won't work. And I for one don't want to buy some radio and stick it on the dash of my SRX and have to use an FM modulator, and lose my steering wheel controls! Plus with one provider they will be able to charge whatever they want and will no doubt raise prices!:bigroll:

-dave

dcarr66
02-21-07, 09:31 PM
The whole point is to consolidate the two customer bases, so alienating roughly half of them by obsoleting a radio wouldn't be very smart. I would imagine that they'll develop a radio that can receive either signal, but there's an installed base of ~ 13 million subscribers so they'll have to keep both sets of birds flying for some time.

As far as pricing goes, you have to realize that free radio is always an option. They can't raise prices too much for fear of losing subscribers. There are other potential forms of competition on the horizon as well: cellular technology, terrestrial digital broadcast, mobile broadband. These things are a few years out but the threat should keep things from getting out of hand. They'll probably temper the FCC's mood a bit as well.

Personally I can't wait for Howard and the NFL in addition to the programming we already get!

Tom Wheeler
02-21-07, 09:36 PM
My best guess, and I have been in the media business for more than 35 years, is that at first they will just share programming. What I mean by that is that they still will at first broadcast on their own satellites to their own receivers and we all will hear the best of the both networks. After some time they will of course want only to use one satellite and system to save costs, but Iím sure that will be a few years after the merge if it happens.
Again, this is only my guess, but I donít think itís in the best interest of the merged company to orphan their subscribers.
Tom

Tom Wheeler
02-21-07, 09:53 PM
Here is a direct link to the latest press release from XM and Sirius:

http://xmradio.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1423

Bottom line, both system will be operating with shared programming for a while at least.

Tom

louisn
02-22-07, 07:51 AM
I upgraded my phone to digital for $15.00 and onstar gave me me another 100 free phone minutes because it took more than 24 hours to activate. They will have a fair plan for customers relating to the xm-sirius merger too, if necessary, if history repeats.

n7don_srx
02-22-07, 10:20 AM
Sure wish subscriptions were available a la carte. Probably 5-6 stations would cover 99% of our listening.

Tom Wheeler
02-22-07, 12:00 PM
If you read the press release, there is talk about a la cart service.

Tom

Press release link:
http://xmradio.mediaroom.com/index.p...ases&item=1423

n7don_srx
02-22-07, 09:02 PM
I see the reference.... when I first tried the press release link I had problems with it loading so didn't read it.

robhersch
02-23-07, 11:00 AM
Here is a direct link to the latest press release from XM and Sirius:
http://xmradio.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1423
Bottom line, both system will be operating with shared programming for a while at least. Tom

I earlier this week heard a communications specialist talk about the merger; his report on industry noted that the XM (synchronous satellites) and the Serius (lower orbiting satellites) use totally different transmission technologies and that both will likely remain in service for the foreseeable future based on the probable costs/ risks of changing the customer base systems but both would likely share program content; and a merger is not certain (refer to the DirectTV - synch and Dish - low orbit attmpted merger)

newby
02-24-07, 01:49 AM
I just wanted to add that on the few XM stations I listen to there have been more and more advertisements. What a rip off! I thought sat radio was to be comercial free, that is why we pay for it.

ewill3rd
02-24-07, 09:05 AM
My guess would be that they will remain separate but the profits will all go into the pockets of the same guys.
I think it will be like the HP Compaq thing, they still have two companies but they are owned by the same parent company.

I don't think many companies in business today would be retarded enough to merge, and then alienate half of their clientele.

I know that some people are mad about NASCAR going to Sirius, and I firmly believe that you'll see programming merge from one broadcast to both networks.

jrose7004
03-01-07, 12:25 AM
I just wanted to add that on the few XM stations I listen to there have been more and more advertisements. What a rip off! I thought sat radio was to be comercial free, that is why we pay for it.

Only the channels that display (cm) run commercials as far as the music channels are concerned. I find there are plenty of non commercial channels that play about the same content that are commercial free.

TSS
03-01-07, 01:45 PM
I just wanted to add that on the few XM stations I listen to there have been more and more advertisements. What a rip off! I thought sat radio was to be comercial free, that is why we pay for it.

Sad, but true. After being a loyal XM subscriber since 2004 (one of the earliest subscribers), I am letting my pre-paid contract expire in June. I was their biggest fan and got many others to subscribe. But the monthly costs are up and the commercials are up - not a selling combo for me.

billjesnen
03-01-07, 07:54 PM
I am one month into my free subscription, and I will likely subscribe for a multiyear plan. Their traffic channel has saved me a ton of time already with several bad traffic days. they give the depth of reporting that the local stations do not bother to provide, and it is available 24/7. That alone is worth the price of subscription to me. For example I was traveling from the Baltimore Beltway to my office near DC on Tuesday, and when an accident shut down the Baltimore Beltway, they not only gave the location and extent of the backup, but provided a few work arounds, one that saved me at least an hour plus a lot of gas!
Bill

TSS
03-02-07, 09:17 AM
Unfortunately, no useful traffic information in my area - plus my daily commute is about 5 minutes.

nstar
03-02-07, 10:21 AM
I just wanted to add that on the few XM stations I listen to there have been more and more advertisements. What a rip off! I thought sat radio was to be comercial free, that is why we pay for it.
If I remember correctly thats what cable tv advertised no comercials when it dayviewed but now I'm pretty sure they run about 25 min an hour advertisement and have not lowered fees!!!!!! :thehand:

billjesnen
03-02-07, 07:22 PM
Unfortunately, no useful traffic information in my area - plus my daily commute is about 5 minutes.

Oh for a 5 min commute! Am I envious of that! Took me an hour and 20 min to get home, another accident shut down the DC beltway for a while tonight. And it would have been worse had the XM guy not warned of a problem on an alternate route. And opening up that huge ultraroof with our mid 60s and sunny day helped a lot!