Currently got a 99 sts and want the headlights of the 02's up...need to know what Xenon's I need and how many...thanks for the help!!:thumbsup:

Not trying to jack this thread or anything, but I was wondering if the HID's were standard on 02 cars and if so, would it be possible to get the headlights (whole ass'y) and put them in an older car? Does the 02 have any options like auto leveling, or is it just a different style socket for the bulb and a different projector?

Okay, so I will provide a bit of info....

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The lamps and all, or just the Xenon HID conversion kit where the casing is the same?

For the HID conversion kits, you'll need the 9005 and 9006 kits.
Here are some links:
* 9005: http://www.cqlight.ca/index.php?cPath=34&osCsid=aeabff472a2e79f61eb6e02432a4066d
* 9006: http://www.cqlight.ca/index.php?cPath=23&osCsid=aeabff472a2e79f61eb6e02432a4066d

These are your best bet. I found others, but they were more expensive and from like Hong Kong or something. These are from Canada. The shipping looks cheap too :)

The 6500K and up are the best. Personally, I'd go with the 6500 or 8000.
Each replacement bulb is $40.00; though they last very long. You just don't want to touch the bulb at all. The oil from our skin will shorten the bulbs' life. Just a tip.

There are also the Fog Light HID conversion kits...
* http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H7-H11-880-881-9005-9006-H4-H8_W0QQitemZ190077279108QQihZ009QQcategoryZ36476QQ cmdZViewItem

This is useful because it'll show you the chart (8000K, 10000K, etc) so you can decide which you brightness want.

Am I missing something? I don't see the difference between the 9005 & 9006? both have different temp bulbs... those look like some nice prices as well!

Am I missing something? I don't see the difference between the 9005 & 9006? both have different temp bulbs... those look like some nice prices as well!


Not sure what you're asking. One is the low beam and the other the high beam.

High beam is best left alone, because it takes longer to fire up a HID (flash to pass, etc).

Those look like some decent prices for the kits. Do you know if they are setup with a relay that will take power from the battery? I have done some searching and it looks like the stock wiring harness is a little questionable for HID kits.

Does anyone know the color temperature of the stock DTS HID lights? (06+)

I loved the color on the rental I had.

Does anyone know the color temperature of the stock DTS HID lights? (06+)

I loved the color on the rental I had.

They're probably the same as the 2006 STS (bulb type H11), but I don't know which brightness that is.
Must be 6000 or 8000. The 8000 are the most demanded.

Not sure what you're asking. One is the low beam and the other the high beam.

High beam is best left alone, because it takes longer to fire up a HID (flash to pass, etc).

You answered it. I didn't notice that one of them was the high beam setup vs a low beam setup. :)

Higher Temp = Lower light output.

Most light output (near what most OEM's are using) is between 4300-5000k. Anything higher is just gonna be more for looks then functionality. The bulbs with the deep blue-purple hue are the one's which are gonna be in the 80-10k range. Depends on what your looking for. I didn't care so much about looks. My decision was based on the maximum light output I could get...that's why I've got 4100k bulbs in mine. Just about the middle point between slightly yellow, or blue. Produces a very pure white light with no hints of any color. If you want that nice light blue tint to it...I would suggest something in the 5-6000k range. It will still be near pure white (good for visibility) but will have that slight blue tint to it if that's what your looking for.

... DO NOT DO THE HIGH BEAMS ...

I say that because the high beams are used for DRL's and the DRL system oscillates the bulbs causing them to come on and off so many times a millisecond... That will kill the ballast / ignitor...

... DO NOT DO THE HIGH BEAMS ...

I say that because the high beams are used for DRL's and the DRL system oscillates the bulbs causing them to come on and off so many times a millisecond... That will kill the ballast / ignitor...

Say what?

What model years are you referring to that use PWM for DRL?

Say what?

What model years are you referring to that use PWM for DRL?

My 2001 SLS used the bright blub for the DRLs.


Is there a HID kit that anyone out there recommends? I am interested in persuing this mod.

it is possible to disable the drl's.

These lights that everyone is talking about are those lights that look blue right? My aunt has those on her Escalade and they look really sweet. So can I do this to my 2003 SLS and how do I go about doing it?

it is possible to disable the drl's.
Yes. It requires a little surgery on your year/model.

My 2001 SLS used the bright blub for the DRLs.


Is there a HID kit that anyone out there recommends? I am interested in persuing this mod.

Read my post on the first page.
Great links.

[quote=lbwd;961395]The lamps and all, or just the Xenon HID conversion kit where the casing is the same?

For the HID conversion kits, you'll need the 9005 and 9006 kits.
Here are some links:
* 9005: http://www.cqlight.ca/index.php?cPath=34&osCsid=aeabff472a2e79f61eb6e02432a4066d
* 9006: http://www.cqlight.ca/index.php?cPath=23&osCsid=aeabff472a2e79f61eb6e02432a4066d

These are your best bet. I found others, but they were more expensive and from like Hong Kong or something. These are from Canada. The shipping looks cheap too :)

quote]
Actually from CA California.

I replaced my halogen bulbs(9006) w/HID a couple of years ago.
It's not just plug & play to do it right. I used an aux. wiring kit to protect the OEM wiring from the extra volts at the start-up of the HID ballasts. http://www.suvlights.com/index.php?cPath=24&osCsid=7fdb182c84a8cd378ca7f2c1f70c2e3f
Then you need to be able to keep the low beams on with the high beams. Since the HIDs take a few seconds to relight after they are off when the high beams are on. http://www.kchilites.com/store/Quad-Beam-HeadlightbrConversion-Kit-6314-P253C83.aspx
If you are doing the HID for looks then use any bulbs you want. Higher K the better.
However if you are doing it to see better then use only the 4300K bulbs. Anything higher actually reduces the amount of light on the road compared to the 4300K bulbs. All OEM bulbs are 4300K.
Go for it.....

... any seville that is 98 and up uses a dimmed HI beam for the DRL -- it is oscillated... Turn your twilight sentinel off one night, put the car in gear, the DRL's come on, then hold the flash to pass -- you will see what I mean.. Or pull up to a garage door during the day, where you can see the beam shining on the door, and pull the hi beam back you will see the difference...

Now, as soon as I can find a way to keep the lo beams on with the hi beams during night time driving only I will buy a HID upgrade... I have been thinking of several ways, but I can't have the lo beams come on when the DRL's are on, or when the RKE is used during the night... There must be a way to do this... *Studies his wiring schematics*... I have a feeling that diodes will be used with this...

... any seville that is 98 and up uses a dimmed HI beam for the DRL -- it is oscillated...
Not so. If you have access to a '98 Service Manual, take a look at pages 8-20 and 8-21. The high and low beam lamps are powered by relays. No pulsing or oscillation going on there.

Now, as soon as I can find a way to keep the lo beams on with the hi beams during night time driving only I will buy a HID upgrade... One diode from relay #28 to relay #27 with the cathode at the relay #27 side. See the pictures for how and where to insert the diode.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i101/JimDphotobucket/Whereandhowitfits.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i101/JimDphotobucket/Finisheddiodeinstall.jpg
I have been thinking of several ways, but I can't have the lo beams come on when the DRL's are on, or when the RKE is used during the night... The lights flashing during remote unlock can be toggled on and off in "Feature Programming".

drls can be shut off via programming options on the dic
i have it all typed up step by step

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-tech-tips/89579-how-shut-off-drls-add-digital.html

.. Okay, then how do you explain the brightness of the DRL's compaired to the flash to pass or regular hi beams??

drls can be shut off via programming options on the dic
i have it all typed up step by step

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-tech-tips/89579-how-shut-off-drls-add-digital.html

... Maybe you can answer this for me -- Noone else has been able to: How can you press the pass warmer button when you have a pass temp KNOB?

I would love to get into the programming but have not found out how yet...

.. Okay, then how do you explain the brightness of the DRL's compaired to the flash to pass or regular hi beams??
During DRL operation, the high beam bulbs on your car are connected in series. This reduces the voltage to each bulb and the light output is noticeably reduced.

....
I would love to get into the programming but have not found out how yet...
The ability to change parameters via the OBD went away in 1998 for Sevilles.

If what you are trying to do is disable DRL you are going to have to do some surgery behind the left headlamp.

Someone is going to say "... pull the DRL relay". That will disable DRL for sure; but it will also disable the left high beam operation.

The stock temp for all cars is 4300k and they all use D2R or D2S except for some newer Lexus cars which use D4S bulbs.

your sure? i'm not questioning your integrity, i just wanna double check to make sure...

Two things: I forgot to mention that I disabled the DRLs by removing the DRL relay. And no, it didnt effect anything else.
And as mrmann88 stated all OEM bulbs are 4300K.
The differences in color are created by the light housings/projector shield placement. That color is only noticed from the front of the car.(looking at it.) From the drivers seat it isnt noticiable. Its just the 4300K white.

Read my post on the first page.
Great links.

Lbwd, I did, I was wondering if anyone had used this kit or another that they really liked. I was also wondering if the kit you pointed out had the relays to use power from the battery and not the stock headlamp harness.

It looks like this is a slightly more complex mod with the lows needing to stay on with the high beams.

I really dont want to get the conversion kit like i initially said...I just want to know if I can get the bulbs without changing anything? If so, which one's do I need to get? I'm just getting them for the looks, not for seeing better! Thanks for the replies!

I really dont want to get the conversion kit like i initially said...I just want to know if I can get the bulbs without changing anything? If so, which one's do I need to get? I'm just getting them for the looks, not for seeing better! Thanks for the replies!

If your STS didn't come with HIDs, you will need the kit. HIDs require balasts and ignitors, they do not plug into the regular headlight harness.