: Race Seats...I Know...Search...Still Need To Know What You've Put In...



Chef
01-22-07, 08:19 PM
I know flame suit is fastened:canttalk:

Those of you who have converted to a race seat please tell us what you've put in? Did it require a universal slider? Did you use the oem base etc...

Thanks,
Chef

Been looking and haven't pulled the trigger as of yet.

p.s. - if you come across a set of black ccw's 19's that are staggered let me know

04CTSVFLA
01-22-07, 08:46 PM
chef, i had a set of sparco torinos in my last car...Excellent build quality. Excellent feel as well. There very adjustable, and can support a harness (345 point) or regular seatbelts. They are very durable too. Most of the other companies seats are more or less good looking but not as good of quality as sparcos. Other companies to look into would be recaro, corbeau, and momo...I may be missing one....but those 3 and Sparco are the beluga of the industry ...LOL

04CTSVFLA
01-22-07, 08:48 PM
Oh also, you probably would want aftermarket brackets and sliders or base as u called it. (the predrilled holes in the sparco seat base will not match up to the oem base....If sparco doesnt make them, they are possibly able to custom fabricate them...if not another compaqny should be able to...its just metal. Alot of the weight your looking to save will be saved by replacing the oem base and slider because theres alot of mechanical "junk" under there.

04CTSVFLA
01-22-07, 08:49 PM
Btw if u find a set of staggered CCW's I may buy your powdercoated stockers if you decide to sell..

Chef
01-22-07, 09:13 PM
Yep...Been looking at all of those and have narrowed it down to Sparco -

Thanks!

Chef
01-22-07, 09:50 PM
Maybe this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330076940039&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330076940039&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1)

rgd
01-22-07, 10:12 PM
One suggestion on buying a seat and I am just relaying what I was told. If possible you should sit in it first. All seats are not shaped the same, just as all bodies arent the same. The one seat a sat in was like sitting in my kids desk at high school. NOT!

Let us know what you find and how it works.

rgd

04CTSVFLA
01-22-07, 10:25 PM
Those seats are going to be EXTREMELY small. Im 5'8 135 and Ive sat in most of the sparcos and they feel snug to me. Check these out - they provide more support than it seems. Ive owned the Torinos. The color combo is endless

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BRAND-NEW-SPARCO-MILANO-2-RACE-SEAT-FREE-SHIPPING_W0QQitemZ260079000816QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3 3701QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sparco-Torino-Racing-Seat_W0QQitemZ120076786360QQihZ002QQcategoryZ33701 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SPARCO-MILANO-PRESTIGE-RACE-SEAT-LEATHER-FREE-S-H_W0QQitemZ260076443517QQihZ016QQcategoryZ33701QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SPARCO-TORINO-2-RACING-SEAT-TWO-SEATS-CTI-ITR-DC2-DC5_W0QQitemZ150081424008QQihZ005QQcategoryZ33701Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Chef
01-23-07, 09:00 AM
You're right about the cardboard thin hard desk top!

I e-mailed the two e-bay ones that O4CTSVFLA mentioned on Sunday and was leaning towards the Milano but the other price was for two seats - could save some good weight/$ there with two but that Milano is the shhhhhiiiiiet.

I may just find a dealer around here and try them on:cool2: for comfort & fitment.


Chef

ctsvflorida
01-23-07, 09:45 AM
You're right about the cardboard thin hard desk top!

I e-mailed the two e-bay ones that O4CTSVFLA mentioned on Sunday and was leaning towards the Milano but the other price was for two seats - could save some good weight/$ there with two but that Milano is the shhhhhiiiiiet.

I may just find a dealer around here and try them on:cool2: for comfort & fitment.


Chef

You guys are crazy, but I like it! What's the weight difference, does anyone know? Also, are you guys considering these seats for track or for weight or both?

Dreamin
01-23-07, 11:02 AM
What were you guys planning on doing for a seat belt? Drive around town with a 5-pt harness?

04CTSVFLA
01-23-07, 01:59 PM
In my old car I drove around town with a 4pt (no crotch belt) And I didnt mind it at all. I just didnt tighten it fully as if i was racing...but tight enough to be safe. If chef's planning on using these seats all the time (dd and track)- the torinos or milanos are the best....if he plans on just using them for tracking (in that case Id only buy a drive side seat) I would get the one he initially found and liked. The Sparco forza I belive.....But I think his intentions are to remove the stock seats and replace them with lighter racing seats for both DD and track.....which in that case - milano or torino all the way.

Chef
01-23-07, 04:16 PM
In my old car (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#) I drove around town with a 4pt (no crotch belt) And I didnt mind it at all. I just didnt tighten it fully as if i was racing...but tight enough to be safe. If chef's planning on using these seats all the time (dd and track)- the torinos or milanos are the best....if he plans on just using them for tracking (in that case Id only buy a drive side seat) I would get the one he initially found and liked. The Sparco (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#) forza I belive.....But I think his intentions are to remove the stock (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/#) seats and replace them with lighter racing seats for both DD and track.....which in that case - milano or torino all the way.

Yes - Daily driver - 10 miles to work each day. I will continue until it's a Pilgrim race machine and then I'll buy a little cruiser for the hood...& then?:stirpot:

chrisalteregokelley@
01-23-07, 06:24 PM
Has anyone thought of pulling the seats out of a Corvette? They probably share similar part as the V and make for a cleaner look. Take a look at these photos towards the middle of the page:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/835195
Since they have memory presets for two, GM made, and still have a sport feel, these might be a great option and still retain factory style settings.
They have side bolsters as well as the lumbar support. Keep in mind that the seat belt is not built into the seat like ours.

Falkolade
01-23-07, 06:44 PM
i don't get it??? why would i want to lose my nice leather/suede seat, for a sparco that looks like it belongs in my neighbors civic?? i am outta the loop on this one!!!

Chef
01-23-07, 08:05 PM
i don't get it??? why would i want to lose my nice leather/suede seat, for a sparco that looks like it belongs in my neighbors civic?? i am outta the loop on this one!!!

Out of the loop is not a bad place to be it's just out...

Surely you'd sacrifice an oem seat for this?

http://www.sparcousa.com/pseats_street.asp?id=196

04CTSVFLA
01-23-07, 09:13 PM
I would.....but only if i had the hp to back it up.....like you do.....unfortunatly my V was bought for me....and I dont have the income to modify it as Id like to....hopefully the day will come.

C66 Racing
01-23-07, 10:05 PM
Has anyone thought of pulling the seats out of a Corvette? They probably share similar part as the V and make for a cleaner look. Take a look at these photos towards the middle of the page:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/835195
Since they have memory presets for two, GM made, and still have a sport feel, these might be a great option and still retain factory style settings.
They have side bolsters as well as the lumbar support. Keep in mind that the seat belt is not built into the seat like ours.

On the Vette forums, most guys hate the stock seats. They don't provide enough bolster support for the track, nor do most of them have a pass through slot for shoulder belts.

Chef,
I'd look into this carefully before pulling the trigger or you may waste money. My suggestion is to ensure the seat you are buying can be mounted into the car and that you have your belt situation figured out. I have read enough of these threads to know how you mount a harness in a V. Where do you mount the shoulder belts?

For my C5 Z06 which is modified for the SCCA T1 class (pretty close to stock), I have a Cobra Suzuka Kevlar racing seat on a bracket custom made by Phoenix Performance. Great seat for the track. I did use it for part time track/street use before going T1 all the way and drove to a track six hours from home once. Didn't mind the ride. If you're in the car a lot on the street, getting into and out of the seat over the high side bolsters gets to be a pain, as does buckling up the harness. I actually went back to stock for daily driving, then put the seat back in full time when I had the car converted to T1 specs.

For my passenger side, I eventually bought a less expensive track seat I could use for passengers/students at DEs. I bought a Corbeau Forza seat with a Corbeau bracket. Nice thing in this case was that Corbeau sold a bracket specific to the C5 Corvette which fit perfectly. Bolt the seat to the bracket, unbolt the four bolts holding the stock seat in and replace with the Forza. Whole job took about 10 minutes. Unfortunately, they don't list a fitament for any Cadillac yet. You might try calling them to see if they have one but haven't listed it on their website. I found them very helpful when I talked to them when ordering.

A final consideration is side protection. If you spend a lot of time on the track, you may eventually wreck. I did. My next seat will be a Cobra Evolution which not only has side hip and leg protection, but adds side head protection - something my HANS device will not help with. :cheers:

Chef
01-23-07, 11:13 PM
C66 & all -

All good info and I appreciate your insight. Next step is to find the dealer and get into it in terms of seeing them , feeling it, sitting in, and going over install options.


I just can't stand these seats on track and have not yet gone for the quick fix adjustables but may if it comes down to it.

Chef

04CTSVFLA
01-24-07, 11:59 AM
The seat belts arent the problem....the harness can bolt into the two rear bolts for the front seats (belt runs down along the back of the seat)....

Chef definetly do sit in some before pulling the trigger....I guarantee youll like the torinos and milanos "feel" and there suprisingly durability and excellent build quality. Remember to keep in mind that the purpose of these seats is not comfort where as the stock seats sole purpose is comfort....so try not to judge them in that way...rather notice how comfy the torinos and milanos are FOR being solely a race seat.

50 4Ever
01-24-07, 01:25 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/504ever/desertcar.jpg
Has anyone thought of pulling the seats out of a Corvette? They probably share similar part as the V and make for a cleaner look. Take a look at these photos towards the middle of the page:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/835195
Since they have memory presets for two, GM made, and still have a sport feel, these might be a great option and still retain factory style settings.
They have side bolsters as well as the lumbar support. Keep in mind that the seat belt is not built into the seat like ours.

I can speak from personal experience, C5 and C6 seats are no good for the track. If you must use a Corvette seat use one from a C4. The back of my seat let loose at 115 MPH going into turn #8 at Spring Mountain Motorsrorts Park, the big sweeping righthand turn at the lower right of this aerial shot.

http://filelibrary.myaasite.com/Content/11/11310/18735264.jpg


I went off thru the desert mowing down sagebrush. Ripped my clearbra in several places but did not damage paint. That yellow stuff on the hood is pollen from the 6' sagebrush.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/504ever/desertcar.jpg

C66 Racing
01-24-07, 09:42 PM
... The back of my seat let loose at 115 MPH going into turn #8 at Spring Mountain Motorsrorts Park, ...

This probably sums up your experience: :shocked2:

gothicaleigh
01-24-07, 09:49 PM
Recaro sport seats. Excellent support, yet comfortable enough to use in a street car.

...and you won't look like rice with race seats in your daily. :p

50 4Ever
01-24-07, 10:11 PM
This probably sums up your experience: :shocked2:

I see you know what it feels like. :alchi:

:highfive:

Chef
01-24-07, 10:20 PM
At least there's no walls to contend with...

Here's where I've spent a few sessions...ah 427 style...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...790&q=pir+race (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1320787401379999790&q=pir+race)

trukk
01-26-07, 01:38 PM
If memory serves, the stock seats weight 95lbs each, so there is a lot of weight to be saved. What you give up though is:

- Stock look
- Front Side Impact Air Bags
- @$$ warmer
- possible adjustability, dependant upon model
- seat auto adjust personalization (i.e. use fob to open car, and it changes to your settings.)
- stock seatbelt (it's part of the OEM seat)

You may not care about some or all of these, but they are considerations for others. If only you drive the car, and you live in Arizona, buy a nice replacemnet (i.e. spend the cash), then the only one I'd really have to think on is the Side air bag. Is it worth the 150lb (ish) weight savings to loose that protection in a daily driver?

my $0.02,

Chris