: New V6???



afg350ci
01-08-07, 04:47 PM
The new 2008 CTS debuted today in detroit with an option for a 3.6L V6 rated at 300 HP mated to a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic. It also comes available with the AWD from the SRX.

So, when can we see the new V6 and tranny in the SRX?????????

Hello? Anyone at GM listening? Hello?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/08/detroit-auto-show-the-stunning-new-cadillac-cts/

Smokin' SRX
01-08-07, 05:10 PM
The new 2008 SRX debuted today in detroit with an option for a 3.6L V6 rated at 300 HP mated to a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic. It also comes available with the AWD from the SRX.

So, when can we see the new V6 and tranny in the SRX?????????

Hello? Anyone at GM listening? Hello?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/08/detroit-auto-show-the-stunning-new-cadillac-cts/

Wow! It will almost match the V-8 for 0-6 speed! But torque will be noticeably lower resulting in less rolling acceleration. Still....no complaints as now I would first -time consider an SRX (if they make it) with a V-6!!
thks for the update!

robhersch
01-09-07, 05:31 AM
The new 2008 SRX debuted today in detroit with an option for a 3.6L V6 rated at 300 HP mated to a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic. It also comes available with the AWD from the SRX.

So, when can we see the new V6 and tranny in the SRX?????????

Hello? Anyone at GM listening? Hello?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/08/detroit-auto-show-the-stunning-new-cadillac-cts/

2008 SRX or 2008 CTS???

afg350ci
01-09-07, 06:32 AM
2008 SRX or 2008 CTS???

Oops, sorry, 2008 CTS. I corrected it.

The point was that they should put that V6 in the SRX and tranny in the SRX. Either way, Cadillac sells way more V6 models than they do V8s. Why not give the SRX the better V6?

c5 rv
01-09-07, 08:10 AM
The new CTS will be offered with 3 engine choices:

- 2.8 RWD only. (I read somewhere that this may be export only.)
- 3.6 boosted from 252 to 258 HP
- 3.6 direct injected with 300 HP.

Given it's higher price point and weight, I'd like to see the base engine on the SRX be 300 HP.

afg350ci
01-10-07, 07:41 AM
The new CTS will be offered with 3 engine choices:

- 2.8 RWD only. (I read somewhere that this may be export only.)
- 3.6 boosted from 252 to 258 HP
- 3.6 direct injected with 300 HP.

Given it's higher price point and weight, I'd like to see the base engine on the SRX be 300 HP.

That's right, the 2.8 is for export only.

Considering that the CTS, although larger, competes the BMW 3 Series:

328i: 230 HP with base price of $32,400

CTS (base): 258 HP

330i: 300 HP with base price of $38,700

CTS (DI): 300 HP

Considering base price for the 2007 is $30,570 & $33,430 respectively, I think they are doing things right. It's not enough to compete; they must exceed the competition to once again be the standard of the world.

Also, and more to the point of this forum, if they put the direct injection V6 into the SRX, they would exceed the BMW X5 3.0i. Now that the BMW has 3 rows, the SRX must raise the stakes. Right now:

X5 3.0i: 260 HP with base price of $45,900

SRX V6: 255 HP with base price of $37,855

X5 4.8i: 350 HP with base price of $54,500

SRX V8: 320 HP with base price of $44,060

So far, Cadillac is a better deal, but that's not the way to become the standard of the world. They need to put the 300 HP V6 in the SRX to exceed the rating of the BMW 3.0i. Also, what can they do about increasing the rating on the N*?

FarEast
01-10-07, 10:45 AM
So far, Cadillac is a better deal, but that's not the way to become the standard of the world. They need to put the 300 HP V6 in the SRX to exceed the rating of the BMW 3.0i. Also, what can they do about increasing the rating on the N*?

Please don't forget that it isn't just the engine. Increasing HP on Northstar without beefing up the tranny and the rest of the drivetrain could become a nightmare. Cadillac already got burned on CTS with whining rear differential issue so I would guess they are going to be extra cautious giving N* any extra power.

b4z
01-10-07, 11:28 AM
The 6 spd tranny in the Northstar V8 SRX can handle more power. It handles both the STS-V and XLR-V now, plus the GMT900 Escalade.

There will be a lighter duty 6 spd in the 2008 CTS, and if they ever offer the 6 spd in the V6 SRX it will be the same as what is in the CTS.

Remember, the lighter duty 6spd RWD transmission is not in production yet.(except as shown in the 2008 CTS). That is why there is no 6 spd available in the v6 SRX now.

FarEast
01-10-07, 11:44 AM
The 6 spd tranny in the Northstar V8 SRX can handle more power. It handles both the STS-V and XLR-V now, plus the GMT900 Escalade.

There will be a lighter duty 6 spd in the 2008 CTS, and if they ever offer the 6 spd in the V6 SRX it will be the same as what is in the CTS.

Remember, the lighter duty 6spd RWD transmission is not in production yet.(except as shown in the 2008 CTS). That is why there is no 6 spd available in the v6 SRX now.

Well basically I would call it... meager. 315 lb-ft versus 311 lb-ft for the old one. The torque N* puts out calls for a truck grade tranny and differentials.
And yes 2007 SRX already comes with 6 speed tranny but still this new tranny doesn't give any margin to squeeze more power out of Northstar. Why do you think Cadillac dropped the idea of SRX-V?

peccles
01-12-07, 03:27 PM
I would think at least the SRX with get the 6 speed automatic with the V6. There is a 275HP version of the 3.6L in the Saturn Outlook. Maybe the SRX will get that if it doesn't get the 300HP DI 3.6L.