: What tuners do we have here?



N0DIH
01-08-07, 04:54 PM
I personally do a lot of personal tuning for the LT1/4L60E. I have capabilities to do most any GM car that has OBD1.

I use TunerCat and TunerProRT.

TunerProRT is free, TunerCat is available at TunerCat.com, and is well worth the $$.

Adam
01-08-07, 07:19 PM
how much hp can you get from a tune on the LT1?

and how much does it cost?

davesdeville
01-09-07, 01:55 AM
I'm no tuner but I do have a TwEECer sitting in my parts bin, waiting for spring...

N0DIH
01-09-07, 02:27 AM
TwEECer is for Fords right? I haven't heard of them just what little I have seen on the net.

As for HP on the LT1, I would say 10-15 hp is reasonable. But the improvements in transmission shifting and driveabiliy are soooo well worth it.

You can turn off EGR, or change when or how it turns on, you can turn on/off the AIR pump (legal on 95-96 models per EPA), you can change timing anywhere, you can remove the MAF, you can tweak the timing retard for traction control, you can change shift times, you can change shift pressures, you can change shift speeds/rpms, you can change idle speeds, you can do all kinds of good stuff, the list goes on and on!

You can get a cable at akm cables or pcmperformance.com. I use the latter.

davesdeville
01-10-07, 07:40 AM
TwEECer is for EEC-IV Fords, which is most OBDIs including my Mark VIII.

N0DIH
01-10-07, 09:23 AM
Considering I work for the company who designed and manufactured your PCM, I should know, but we don't have the tools like that, we don't even do any software programming, Ford doesn't want us to. The factory does to a limited extent, but most of the software is programmed by programmers and we solder the memories to the board already programmed. Ford controls the software, we have nothing to do with it and Ford doesn't want us to know much about it. Silly eh?

I work with one of the guys who was the processor guy on the Marauder PCM. But he works on cell phones now....

stbtt
01-10-07, 04:30 PM
i been tuning gm cars and trucks obd1 & obd2 out of my shop for 3 years now i have used hp tuner,cats accell,holley,edelbrock and a few others

N0DIH
01-10-07, 04:43 PM
What do you make of this thread on my L29?

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9754

Any ideas?

(the L29, the engine that should have been put in the 1994-1996 Fleetwoods....)

stbtt
01-10-07, 05:04 PM
do you have a leak in you exhaust manifold i have seen this before on a typhoon i had if you dont and you have changed the vcm with a good one then you know its not in the vcm it might be a o2 senser oh and tunercat has the software for your truck i have done few of them

N0DIH
01-10-07, 06:19 PM
No leaks. Even then, the PCM would see lean, not rich. It thinks it is waay rich (-18.0% LTFT) Both O2's are new and both agree on -18.0% rich. Note -18.0, not -18.1, not fluxuating, a strict -18.0%. Only time it deviates from it is decel and idle. So it strikes me as PCM intentional, but it doesn't make sense why, if it intentionally is doing it, why would it trip a code then???

I have 2 PCM's, stock and tuned, both are the same, -18.0%

Florian
01-10-07, 07:25 PM
EFILive here.....love it....


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PartsGuy
01-14-08, 04:19 PM
TunerCat I & II and HPTuners here.

N0DIH
01-14-08, 04:24 PM
Cool, I am looking to get TunerCat II soon. HPT and EFILive are too pricey for the GUI and a $100 per car license...

mgscustomtune
01-27-08, 11:09 PM
I use LS1 Edit LS2 Edit Carputing, HP MPVI Professional , Westers Ford Tuning software.

N0DIH
01-28-08, 11:04 AM
Wester's FINALLY got he Ford software out?

Anyone ever find a way to contact SCT Advantage? I have had no luck getting them to respond to emails for questions.

AJxtcman
01-28-08, 09:34 PM
I have some boot legged GM crap and some Wester's.:D

mgscustomtune
02-10-08, 10:16 PM
Yes Westers has the Ford tuning out. Been using it the last six months. If you get into Fords use the bench on the trucks/cars with the remote starts to avoid Data Link Problems. Yes l agree at $100 per liecence for the HP is a rip off.There is only three trucks l use HP for the Canyon/Colorado and the 07/08 Duramax. l use my Edit on all others. I had a Customer contact me Fri saying he could buy the tuning software for the same price l was charging for his Custom Tune lol Custom tuning is actually a fine art that takes years of experience.

N0DIH
02-11-08, 12:11 AM
Doesn't LT1 Edit/LS1 Edit/LS2 Edit have the same $100 per VIN issues as HPT/EFILive?


Yes Westers has the Ford tuning out. Been using it the last six months. If you get into Fords use the bench on the trucks/cars with the remote starts to avoid Data Link Problems. Yes l agree at $100 per liecence for the HP is a rip off.There is only three trucks l use HP for the Canyon/Colorado and the 07/08 Duramax. l use my Edit on all others. I had a Customer contact me Fri saying he could buy the tuning software for the same price l was charging for his Custom Tune lol Custom tuning is actually a fine art that takes years of experience.

I hear that, there is NO way you can learn all this overnight, even if you did know the tool. It takes time and understanding of internal combustion engines, and knowing each specific engine combination, knowing what works, what doesn't, what to do with each mod, and to fudge in some safety factors to make a good solid reliable tune that won't cause damage and still will do well at extracting as much power out of the engine that you can get....

NOT a light task that you can learn overnight....

I myself come from learning turbo Pontiac V8's, Pontiac 455's, 400's, Olds 350's, 307's and various others... Been messing with them since the early mid 80's.... Times HAVE changed!

figgie
06-03-08, 07:06 PM
<-- most MoTeC products

AJxtcman
01-15-09, 09:11 PM
I have some boot legged GM crap and some Wester's.:D

Update
Wester's, JET DST, JET Diesel DTS, Some TunerCat's, HPTuners, Some EFILive, TunerPro, TunerPro RT, and a ton of freeware.

This is what I can tune in JET, Wester's, or TunerCat. I have way more than this list. It is old.
2004 Buick Rainier 5.3L V8
1998 Cadillac Escalade 5.7
1999 Cadillac Escalade 5.7
2000 Cadillac Escalade 5.7, 6.0
2001 Cadillac Escalade 6.0
2002 Cadillac Escalade 6.0
2003 Cadillac Escalade 6.0
2004 Cadillac Escalade 6.0
2005 Cadillac Escalade 6.0
2006 Cadillac Escalade 6.0
1996 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy 4.3
1997 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy 4.3
1998 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy / Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3
1999 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy / Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3
2000 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy / Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3
2001 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy / Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3
2002 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy / Oldsmobile Bravada 4.3
2003 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy/S10/S15 4.3
2004 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy/S10/S15 4.3
2005 Chev S10/S15/Blazer -- GMC Jimmy/S10/S15 4.3
1996 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
1997 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
1998 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
1999 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2000 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2001 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2002 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2003 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2004 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2005 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2006 Chev Astro Van--GMC Safari 4.3
2005 GMC Envoy 5.3L V8
1996 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD,7.4L
1997 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD,7.4L
1998 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD,7.4L
1999 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3,4.8, 5.0, 5.3,5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD,7.4L
2000 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.0, 5.3,5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD,7.4L
2001 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.0, 5.3,5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD,7.4L and 8.1L
2002 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.0, 5.3,5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD,7.4L and 8.1L
2003 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.0, 5.3,5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD,7.4L and 8.1L
2004 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, and 8.1L
2005 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, and 8.1L
2006 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, and 8.1L
2007 Chevy Express / GMC Savana 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, and 8.1L
1996 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD, 7.4L
1997 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD, 7.4L
1998 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD, 7.4L
1999 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8,5.0, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD, 7.4L
2000 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8,5.0, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD, 7.4L
2001 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.5TD, 6.6L Duramax, 7.4L, 8.1L
2002 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.6L LB7 Duramax, 8.1L
2003 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.6L LB7 Duramax, 8.1L
2004 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.6L LB7-6.6L LLY Duramax, 8.1L
2005 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.6L LLY Duramax, 8.1L
2006 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2007 Chevy Silverado / GMC Sierra 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
1996 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 7.4L
1997 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 7.4L
1998 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 7.4L
1999 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 7.4L
2000 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 7.4L
2001 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 6.6LB7
2002 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 6.6LB7
2003 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 6.6LB7
2004 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 6.6LB7,6.6L LLY, 8.1L
2005 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 6.6LLY, 8.1L
2006 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick/Workhorse 4500-5500 6.5TD, 6.6LLY, 8.1L
2007 Chevy Kodiak / GMC Topkick /Workhorse 4500-5500 8.1L
1996 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 5.7, 6.5TD, 7.4L
1997 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD, 7.4L
1998 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 5.0, 5.7, 6.5TD, 7.4L
1999 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.0, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD, 7.4L
2000 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.0, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.5TD, 7.4L
2001 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.5TD, 8.1L
2002 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.5TD, 8.1L
2003 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2004 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2005 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2006 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2007 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2004 Chevy Suburban / GMC Yukon & Denali 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 8.1L
2003 Chevy SSR 5.3L
2004 Chevy SSR 5.3L
1996 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
1997 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
1998 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
1999 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2000 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2001 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2002 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2003 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2004 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2005 Hummer H1 6.5Turbo Diesel
2006 Hummer H1 6.6 LLY Turbo Diesel
2003 Hummer H2 6.0 V8
2004 Hummer H2 6.0 V8
2005 Hummer H2 6.0 V8
2006 Hummer H2 6.0 V8
2007 Hummer H2 6.0 V8
2003 Isuzu Ascender 5.3L V8
2004 Isuzu Ascender 5.3L V8
2005 Isuzu Ascender 5.3L V8
Vehicle Coverage -- V6 CARS
1998 Buick Century 3.1L V6
1999 Buick Century 3.1L V6
2000 Buick Century 3.1L V6
2001 Buick Century 3.1L V6
2002 Buick Century 3.1L V6
1998 Buick Lesabre/Park Ave 3.8L V6
1999 Buick Lesabre/Park Ave 3.8L V6
2000 Buick Lesabre/Park Ave 3.8L V6
2001 Buick Lesabre/Park Ave 3.8L V6
2002 Buick Lesabre/Park Ave 3.8L V6
1998 Buick Regal/Riviera 3.8L V6
1999 Buick Regal/Riviera 3.8L V6
2000 Buick Regal/Riviera 3.8L V6
2001 Buick Regal/Riviera 3.8L V6
2002 Buick Regal/Riviera 3.8L V6
1997 Camaro - Firebird 3800 V6
1998 Camaro - Firebird 3800 V6
1999 Camaro - Firebird 3800 V6
2000 Camaro - Firebird 3800 V6
2001 Camaro - Firebird 3800 V6
2002 Camaro - Firebird 3800 V6
2000 Chevrolet Impala 3.4L - 3.8L V6
2001 Chevrolet Impala 3.4L - 3.8L V6
2002 Chevrolet Impala 3.4L - 3.8L V6
1998 Chevrolet Lumina 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
1999 Chevrolet Lumina 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
2000 Chevrolet Lumina 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
2001 Chevrolet Lumina 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
2002 Chevrolet Lumina 3.8L V6
1998 Chevrolet Malibu 3.1L, 3.4L V6
1999 Chevrolet Malibu 3.1L, 3.4L V6
2000 Chevrolet Malibu 3.1L, 3.4L V6
2001 Chevrolet Malibu 3.1L, 3.4L V6
2002 Chevrolet Malibu 3.1L, 3.4L V6
1998 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
1999 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
2000 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
2001 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
2002 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3.1L, 3.4L, 3.8L V6
1998 Oldsmobile Alero 3.4L V6
1999 Oldsmobile Alero 3.4L V6
2000 Oldsmobile Alero 3.4L V6
2001 Oldsmobile Alero 3.4L V6
2002 Oldsmobile Alero 3.4L V6
1999 Olds Shelby 1 4.0L V8
1998 Pontiac Bonneville 3.8L and 3800SC
1999 Pontiac Bonneville 3.8L and 3800SC
2000 Pontiac Bonneville 3.8L and 3800SC
2001 Pontiac Bonneville 3.8L and 3800SC
2002 Pontiac Bonneville 3.8L and 3800SC
1998 Pontiac Grand Am 3.1L, 3.4L
1999 Pontiac Grand Am 3.1L, 3.4L
2000 Pontiac Grand Am 3.1L, 3.4L
2001 Pontiac Grand Am 3.1L, 3.4L
2002 Pontiac Grand Am 3.1L, 3.4L
1998 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.1L, 3.8L
1999 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.1L, 3.8L
2000 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.1L, 3.8L
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.1L, 3.8L
2002 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.1L, 3.8L
V8 CARS
1996 Chev Camaro LT1 5.7L
1997 Chev Camaro LT1 5.7L
1998 Chev Camaro LS1 5.7L
1999 Chev Camaro LS1 5.7L
2000 Chev Camaro LS1 5.7L
2001 Chev Camaro LS1 5.7L
2002 Chev Camaro LS1 5.7L
1996 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LT1
1997 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LT1-5.7L LS1
1998 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
1999 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
2000 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
2001 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
2002 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
2003 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
2004 Chevy Corvette 5.7 LS1
1996 Pontiac Firebird LT1 5.7L
1997 Pontiac Firebird LT1 5.7L
1998 Pontiac Firebird LS1 5.7L
1999 Pontiac Firebird LS1 5.7L
2000 Pontiac Firebird LS1 5.7L
2001 Pontiac Firebird LS1 5.7L
2002 Pontiac Firebird LS1 5.7L
2004 Pontiac GTO 5.7 LS1
2004 Cadillac CTS-V 5.7 LS1
2004 Cadillac CTS-V 5.7 LS1
1999 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2000 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2001 Gm Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2002 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2003 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2004 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2005 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
2006 GM Holden Adventra 5.7L LS1
1999 GM Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2000 GM Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2001 GM Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2002 Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2003 Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2004 Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2005 Holden Commodore 5.7L LS1
2001 Holden Monaro 5.7L LS1
2002 Holden Monaro 5.7L LS1
2003 Holden Monaro 5.7L LS1
2004 Holden Monaro 5.7L LS1
2005 Holden Monaro 5.7L LS1
2006 Holden Sedan 5.7L LS1
2006 Holden Coupe 5.7 LS1
2006 Holden Crewman 5.7 LS1
2006 Holden Ute 5.7LS1

N0DIH
01-15-09, 09:15 PM
Yeah, I can tune all that (except the oil burners....), and most any PROM based OBD1 stuff, even 4.9L Cadillac V8's... .... I am working creating a definition for HT4100 now.... Never been tuned before, but trying... Worth the effort? Well, probably not, good learning though. And next is 87 and older 307....

AJxtcman
01-15-09, 09:21 PM
Yeah, I can tune all that (except the oil burners....), and most any PROM based OBD1 stuff, even 4.9L Cadillac V8's... .... I am working creating a definition for HT4100 now.... Never been tuned before, but trying... Worth the effort? Well, probably not, good learning though. And next is 87 and older 307....

A beautiful 67 442 just sold for $45k :drool:

hey read this. I threw a comment in for you about the V6 stuff
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/1736321-post173.html

N0DIH
01-15-09, 10:53 PM
Sweet, that is what Pete (the guy who called you about the Alero BCM) has.... His runs low 10's on a 350 Olds, no bottle....

mgscustomtune
01-22-09, 10:22 PM
Out of all my software and l have all that is out there EFI is by the worst/abnormal. I will only use it for a client that all ready have a EFI tune other than that it sits on the shelve collecting dust

N0DIH
01-23-09, 03:04 AM
What all software do you have?

I have EFILive and TC2 (and TC1).




Out of all my software and l have all that is out there EFI is by the worst/abnormal. I will only use it for a client that all ready have a EFI tune other than that it sits on the shelve collecting dust

Ur7x
01-24-09, 03:09 PM
Worth the effort? Well, probably not, good learning though. And next is 87 and older 307....

The 88-90 Olds 307 has been hacked I have the DEF files for that PCM if you want it... No one has hacked the 86/87 307 (yet).. I doubt they ever will... It is just way too easy to rip off all of the CCC system on these cars and replace the Olds 307 (which gets no love) with a 403, 425 or 455.

N0DIH
01-25-09, 12:41 AM
I am trying to hack the 87 307 now, but my burner won't read the 2732, so I have to mod things a bit to make it read.

I have a HT4100 in there too, same deal, working on it too. That one I can read ok. Just need time now...


The 88-90 Olds 307 has been hacked I have the DEF files for that PCM if you want it... No one has hacked the 86/87 307 (yet).. I doubt they ever will... It is just way too easy to rip off all of the CCC system on these cars and replace the Olds 307 (which gets no love) with a 403, 425 or 455.

Ur7x
01-25-09, 12:46 AM
I am trying to hack the 87 307 now, but my burner won't read the 2732, so I have to mod things a bit to make it read.

I have a HT4100 in there too, same deal, working on it too. That one I can read ok. Just need time now...

I have the BIN file for the Vin 9 (442 HO) 1987 307... PM me an email address and I'll send it out.
BTW the 86/87 Olds PCMs does not use the 2732 EPROM... in the 86/87 PCM they use a N82S181 1K Burn once PROM......
The 88-90 uses the erasable (but problematic) 2732

N0DIH
01-25-09, 01:18 AM
PM sent....

Ur7x
01-25-09, 01:32 AM
email sent