http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0701_z+2008_cadillac_cts+front_corner.jpg
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0701_z+2008_cadillac_cts+rear_corner.jpg
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0701_z+2008_cadillac_cts+interior.jpg

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0612_2008_cadillac_cts/

Good looking out Jon :thumbsup:

Ugly fcuking color, but are those vents I see on the side? The fogs also look a lot better than the current style.

I LOVE that colour... Return of Copper Sunburst!!!!!

And click the link for more pics. Yes, thos are vents.

258hp base V6, 300hp optional V6.

HOLY SHIT! that thing is beautiful! 300hp and AWD! i just read the article. guys, this is gonna be a bad ass ride. guess i gotta start saving up...

High res gallery:

http://www.automobilemag.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0701_2008_cadillac_cts_photo_gallery/

HOLY SHIT! that thing is beautiful! 300hp and AWD! i just read the article. guys, this is gonna be a bad ass ride. guess i gotta start saving up...

LED tail lamps & iPOD integration, I didn't see anything about bluetooth though. :suspense:

Is it just me or are cars getting narrower?

Screw Bluetoof. I've always used Nokia Communicator phones that have proprietary car kits with holder/chargers and antenna couplers. Much rather have the phone mounted on the dash and charging than floating around the compartment. All-wheel drive is worth oodles more to me.

Aw FICK!!! I just bought mine 6 months ago and I'm already wanting to upgrade...I hate the auto industry ;-(

that is a nice car...i wont buy it

car looks better in gray
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g161/rblimas/graylacc23.jpg

I still think this thing is photoshopped

:cloud9: ... Wow. Have to say, better than I even expected!! Strong and powerful, & the true above-par luxury appeal the CTS needed!!...

Now, for a time machine and a eally tight bank robbery plan...:lildevil:

I still think this thing is photoshopped

me to:highfive:

More photos in red here.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/01/08/2008-cadillac-cts/

More info here.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=119071?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2 .*

"Real news comes in the way of a high-output version of the same 3.6-liter V6. It uses direct injection to help deliver 300 hp and 270 pound-feet of torque."

I like it....give it a year or two before you buy one, I'm in the tooling business and It takes 50-70 thousand cars to get it right.

I really like that!

I just don't like the grille. Maybe the V grille will look better?

I like it, looks good.

I could live without the sidevents, but since they are on the Escalade I am guessing it will become a staple across all lines (but hope not).

The turn signals and headlight assembly look awesome. Also, it may be the angle of the picture but the rear styling looks like the 350z a bit.

As suggested here, I will wait a year or so into production to let Cadillac iron out any bugs and add any new features before I seriously consider purchasing. However, unless they designed it to actually carry 2 sets of golf clubs I will probably wait for next model STS.

ill be tradin the lac in as soon as that drops that shit is so much hotter


but this is the hottest current cts ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2427712

I think all the pics are artist's renderings..not real photos. That grill is to big and to much bling for me. Maybe a Blackillac with a painted grill or V bumper? We need more pics. Anybody seen pics of the 2008 CTS-V??

i'm sure with our detroit auto show opening today there will be more "real" pics of it. i am going but not until next week. if there aren't any by then i'll be sure to post some, or more. i'm dying to possibly sit inside and check the interior out.

love the ipod integration, awd, and 3.6 stock engine with upgrade to 300hp. i also want to see it with some aftermarket wheels. not sure how much of a fan i am of that style.

i see 5 lugs, think they stuck with the 5x115? not sure how i'd feel about that.

I wouldn't kick that out of my garage. I would suspect a 300 HP AWD unit with all the bells & whistles would have a MSRP of about $45K, maybe higher.

I like it....give it a year or two before you buy one, I'm in the tooling business and It takes 50-70 thousand cars to get it right.

:yeah: It looks "ok" but I need to see it in person. Does it appear to have one of those disappearing NAV screens? Ack. And the grill looks like that K&G monstrosity.

yeah it looks like the top of the DIC on top comes off when a NAV unit is needed.

Autoblog posted pics of the new CTS this morning...

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/08/detroit-auto-show-2008-cadillac-cts-revealed/

I don't like the exterior. It looks like GM tried to take the CTS to the "Hood" with that huge grill. What made the 2003-2007 such a fantastic car was the understated elegance of the lines and design of the body. Now it looks like the suits at GM decided to throw refinement out the window and go for the "Bling" look.
BUT, as the article in the link posted previously states that the "Interior was a disaster" which I don't think any 03-07 CTS owner can dispute, the 08's interior is great. If the 08 had the current exterior with the new interior, I would be first in line to get one.
Having seen the exterior of the 08, I will keep my 03.

I like the 2nd post under the article. Pretty funny...I want a Cadillac!?

i still want to see what cosmetic changes you can make to the exterior via options. if you look at the 07 base or 07 with the sideskirts, grill, 18's and spoiler...WOW what a difference. i'll give it a chance, but yes i agree they tried to make it more "flashy" like the escalade. ie. grill, sidevents...

why can't they just make it mean and sporty like the m3? god what a hot ride that is. i know thats blasphemy but seriously...plus it's fast.

Take away the godawful color and the overdone lighting and this car looks a lot less blingy. There's also plenty of very understated, sporty cars with big grills (Audi RS4).

I just read an interesting tidbit in the Edmunds Release article:

"Although the new CTS rides on the same basic chassis as before, it borrows a page from the Pontiac playbook by adding 1.8 inches of track width in front and 2 inches in back. The wheelbase remains the same while the car's length and height are both up an inch and a half.

The overall suspension design is unchanged, with aluminum upper and lower control arms up front, a multilink setup in back and coil-over shocks at each corner. A modified version of the strut tower brace from the CTS-V (http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/cadillac/ctsv/index.html) is now standard on all models. Cadillac says the brakes and steering system are all-new, but its reluctance to elaborate leads us to believe they aren't much different from the current setups.
"

So thia means that either:
A: They have not changed the Diff
b: If the rumored Cast Iron upgraded Diff is true for the new model...it will bolt right in!

Please GM..don't **** this one up too with a substandard drivetrain:banghead:

All and all a very tempting upgrade possibility..especially with a possible supercharged V8 CTS V commming next year!

I think GM did a very nice job with the Cts.

Sharp front..interesting side view..

GOod power and an awd option...

I bet its a hit.

Can't wait to see the V

That should be killer!

Killer V!

I LOVE it..... skeet skeet!

This looks like a duplicate thread on the same subject. See thread on 2008 CTS.

Robert, no 2008 V. 2009 CTS-V.
I like the new design. I'll see it up close in a few weeks at CAS

The Future!!! Lovin it

I think its a good change. The grille is pretty big but Im more interested in the inside.

mannnnn... i agree that shit looks photochopped. the back looks almost exactly like the back of the sts. the spy pics of the back looked nothing like the back in these pics. eh well looks like i'm keeping mine for a while.

Its perfect!!

Just sat in the new CTS. Interior and exterior are flawless, which is saying a lot coming from me.

The door panels have stitched material in the coves and along the top. Armrests are nicely shaped and padded. Flowing lines throughout, nothing forced, but also far from plain. Seatbacks much thinner but also much more complex in shape than currently, provide very good support while increasing rear kneeroom. Materials all appear first-rate. Fits extremely precise.

Cadillac dealer on hand said that he believes the next CTS-V will be available with an automatic.

The presentation was unbelievably good. Brought the entire team on stage bit by bit, with the subteam leaders each giving part of the presentation, till the stage was packed. If there is video available of the presentation, it's a must-watch.

I happen to know one of the senior engineers on the car from the time I performed my Ph.D. research inside GM. Fantastic person, that she was involved on the car is another good sign. I told her I expect to have initial reliability results on the car in February 2008. I hope the members of this forum will do what they can to help out by buying what appears to be a fantastic car and then reporting as panel members their experience with the new car.

Just in case you were on the fence about buying the 2008 and needed a bit of a nudge...

Vehicle reliability research (http://www.truedelta.com/reliability.php)

Not sure......The pics of the red one from the side I think look horrible. It lost all if its lines....Almost looks like a Honda with a big grill and some different lights. The interior looks like its straight outta the G35.......Why couldnt they do something original....also, did you notice the Key? NO pushstart.....I will have to wait to see it in person, but the pics do nothing for me

These are welcome improvements to the CTS but they only make it keep up with the competition. If the 300HP 3.6L still only needs 87 octane gas than that's one advantage over the competition. I think they should have made Magnetic Ride Control an option at least. That would be something the competition does not have. With the inceased witdh, length, and height I hope the weight didn't icease too much.

Gauging the competition's reaction, it's going to be a hit:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=665084

We're more critical of it than the bimmer-boys! :p

How's the right kneeroom in the driver's seat?

Gauging the competition's reaction, it's going to be a hit:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=665084

We're more critical of it than the bimmer-boys! :p

Yuk..We're not members and can't log in. Maybe copy and paste some of it ? Pls?:yup:

It's an awesome ride, however I'll keep mine for a while!!!

I can't wait til my lease is up. Out with the old, in with the new. And for you photoshop non believers, watch the video. Move the marker to a 1/4" away from the end and you will see it.

Now it really resembles a "mini" STS.

Sure is beautiful!!!!!!!!!

There's nothing wrong with Cadillac going more "bling" on the CTS. Look what "bling" did for the Escalade.. Cadillac is all about edgy styling, not "me too - blend in with the rest". I think this new CTS - which I'm fairly certain is NOT a photoshop job - looks excellent..

This is going to be another hot-selling vehicle for Cadillac.. They're coming out with one hit after another these days.. Cadillac is back...

And before I forget.. I like the side vents.. I guess they're not for everyone - but they get two thumbs up from me...

I guess you're more into how Hyundai does things where each car and truck looks completely different from the other.. That's okay.. To each his own.. But Cadillac (like BMW, Audi, Lexus, Mercedes and many others) likes to stick to a theme.. All their vehicles are going to look fairly similar simply in different sizes..

Remember the Seville and Eldorado - how similar they were? Especially from the front.. This is really nothing new..

But honestly, from my point of view, the 07 CTS looks more like the STS than this new one...

Wow, just watched the video on the Edmunds site (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=119071?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2 .* ) All I can say is damn, the next gen CTS is HOT!! Did you guys hear that exhaust note, now that's what I'm talking about. All wheel drive is available on any engine and tranny combination too, that's killer!!

Love it, love it, love it.

I was wondering what my next car would be...I think I have the answer.:D

Hmmmm...looking at it again I don't like all the smooth lines. That's what I like about out CTSs having all those edges and all. The front of the 08 looks killer but the rest is all smooth. :-(

damn thats nice.

Don't forget that while the car has 45 more hp, it
will also have a 6 speed auto with a very low 1st gear, so
even if Cadillac takes the 3.45 rearend out an puts in something taller
this new CTS will have a 0-60 time in the 5s.
Not too shabby

To all the people thinking the pics are photoshopped...the new CTS was just unveiled at the NAIAS and the pictures you see are the actual car.


Personally...I think it looks GREAT! Definitely a nice evolution from the previous model, although I wish Cadillac did something first for once. Its nice we have the choice of 300 hp, but 300 hp is just keeping up with the competition, especially since several other cars (G35, IS 350, BMW 335) in this segment have 300 hp already. I wish Cadillac would not just do things to 'keep up' but acutally be the first to offer something.

ALSO...WHY WHY WHY did they make it longer and wider?!?! They are completely distancing this car from the IS, 3 series, A4, segment. I for one thing the car should have been a bit shorter, for better handling. The STS already sits in the midsize segment.

Not sure......The pics of the red one from the side I think look horrible. It lost all if its lines....Almost looks like a Honda with a big grill and some different lights.

:yeah:

I am not much fond of the grotesque grill. The wow factor of the first gen CTS was the clean lines and sharp edges. The new CTS evolved, and in doing so lost everything that made it beautiful.

Now, I do like the wheels, those have potential, the fogs are nice, the interior looks good. Those are the positives I can see from the various photos.

One question, is that a two pane sunroof??? Interesting...

To all the people thinking the pics are photoshopped...the new CTS was just unveiled at the NAIAS and the pictures you see are the actual car.




I'm still not convinced....I mean, Im trying to see some actual pictures with people in the background....Somthing official lol

Well, I must say that I'm very impressed. Way to go, GM! I came very close last year to buying a new '06 CTS, and I think that I'd have serious buyer's remorse right now if I had.

I'm still not convinced....I mean, Im trying to see some actual pictures with people in the background....Somthing official lol

Watch the unveiling video then. There are a hundred people on stage when a dark grey one is rolled in.

I'll make sure to get detail shots when I'm at the show Saturday.
If I'm lucky, they might have one on the floor to climb all over. :)

Watch the unveiling video then. There are a hundred people on stage when a dark grey one is rolled in.

I'll make sure to get detail shots when I'm at the show Saturday.
If I'm lucky, they might have one on the floor to climb all over. :)

Are you allowed to take cameras? Any trouble getting tickets for the event? I wish I was going. The Columbus auto show is coming up soon.:)

It's wider AND longer? I just remember reading about it being wider.. I guess I missed that..

And the pictures are real. They're not "photoshops".

They must have liked my shot: I think it looks really sharp !
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0701_z+2008_cadillac_cts+front.jpg (http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0612_2008_cadillac_cts/photo_04.html#)http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/mjdart/Cadillac%20CTS%20Sport/100_1236.jpg

i think it said it was 1.8" longer... that may have been wider though. i couldnt hardly read... its like written articles in a porn mag...

Are you allowed to take cameras? Any trouble getting tickets for the event? I wish I was going. The Columbus auto show is coming up soon.:)

There's usually not a person without a camera at Cobo hall during the auto show. It's one of Detroit's largest annual events. :D

Tickets are never a problem and can be purchased at the door. The amount of people because of that can be overwhelming though.

They usually have a formal event the night before which costs quite a bit more and is limited, but can be worth it if you don't want to fight the crowd.

looks pretty kick ass, not to sure of the grille though looks to be a bit oversized. The interior looks like said before straight out of a g35. Anybody know what the msrp is gonna be of these? My lease ends in 08 and im already thinking...

It basically looks great, we do our own tweaking anyway so the grille can be changed. I'll wait and hope the next V has an auto transmission. :cool2:

Dash sucks. I like my dash much better.

AutoWeek loved it.http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070108/FREE/70105001/1056/autoshows

AutoWeek loved it.http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070108/FREE/70105001/1056/autoshows

merged here

Darn it!!! You guys sure do jump all over a new topic! :D

I was a good boy and actually went through every page to see what everyone had to say and of course once I got to the last page, and am excited about what I wanted to say...

I get "server too busy, please try later!" :D

In any case, I figured I'd post on page 6 :p

I do like the new look. It does look a little more like an STS as a few people mentioned. I still haven't seen a pic with the nav, so I'm browsing around. As much as I love this car, I'll have to admire it from a distance for now.

Someone mentioned that they didn't notice anything said about bluetooth, I'm hoping that it was just an oversight! That's actually pretty important to me right now. And what about the turn key! We should be able to say "start" and have it start! LOL

P.S. Cadillac.com also has some pics. I also forgot to say that I like the new dash luminescense colors.

So what?

I'm glad that the majority are impressed. I can't wait to see one (in White Diamond) in person and then see one in my garage.

every new 08 thread will get merged wtih this one.

is this still the same platform as our current cts's? i think so otherwise i think they would say something. Although I did hear that the new cts was supposed to be a sigma II platform I guess that is not the case.

so far.. my thoughts:
"hmm nice rims.. i'll think about using them on my car"
"gee GM, thanks for finally upgrading the cts to what it should have been already"

the AWD option is going to be a big seller, of course its pretty easy to add since the current cts already has the bolt holes in the undercarriage for the awd tranny from the SRX.

oh, for the record, the car is not wider but they pushed the wheel base out a bit front and back, notice the bulges of the extended wheel wells.

the car is pretty although I do think it borrow too much from audi and infiniti. nice interior. if all dimensions are the same we should be able to use a lot of the interior parts to upgrade our cars.

did you read where it says the seats are now heated and vented from the start? and the seats are thinner to give more legroom to the backseat. neat.

I think i will just drill and add the lights to the door handles.

the low level "ambient" light that is always on at night in the car is pretty neat as well.


more linkage
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070108/AUTO04/701080404

(note, in above article when they say "super-charged" they mean "high performance", pretty dumb.)

new cts in gray
http://vh10924.moc.gbahn.net/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20070108&Category=AUTO04&ArtNo=701080404&Ref=V2Q=100&MaxW=500

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/cts.jpg

Thats the picture I needed...... Wow!

Dash sucks. I like my dash much better.

You really like the current dash better, huh? How about the new interior?

Project anyone?

Just wondering if anyone has Photoshopped the Factory 2008 CTS Images to make them look like how YOU would customize it, colors, wheels, etc...

If not, Anyone have any time on their hands to play around with black w/ black rims/chrome lip?

I love the new CTS in grey.. I think this is going to be the hottest Cadillac on the streets for awhile.. Even though it's the entry-level Cadillac, it's going to be the one everybody wants...

Take a look at this blog: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-cadillac-cts-1/

You won't be disappointed--wow!!

Look at the rear end in that first line of photos! The exhuast tips are almost at knee level! What the hell is GM trying to do? The more I look at it the less I like it!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/goonzo/cadillac-cts---08.jpg

I dont know what some people are looking at but that car is gorgous. In this group of photos it's sporting 19" rims too!!! Nice

Those rims are sick for stockers and I love it
Quit hatin everyone :yup:

The vents got to go though.... Did anyone put any vents on our current CTS? Yea, didnt think so haha...That car is nice though.... I need to see it in person

Look at the rear end in that first line of photos! The exhuast tips are almost at knee level! What the hell is GM trying to do? The more I look at it the less I like it!

Ya I am thinking there will still be a few changes before it hits the roads, if not a lowering kit will be a must on this car. Overall I think its really nice, looks a lot more luxurious hope the $$ doesn't sky rocket. I give it the :thumbsup:

I think this car is sharp, but I am on the fence about it. Just like the 03, when it came out, there is a love-hate relationship. Seems to be the same here. I like the wider stance but I hate the grille. With the extended dimensions, maybe they're looking to go after the M5/5-series versus the M3/3-series. Keep the power coming.

i will trade my 2004 cts in . she only has 14 thousand miles on it.....one thing i hope they make diamond white......

Wow! It's so sexy! I want it!!!!!

Man. I'm not doing anything else to my car. I have to start saving. I like the Copper Sunburst. It's giving the CTS a real sport look

I love the new CTS in grey.. I think this is going to be the hottest Cadillac on the streets for awhile.. Even though it's the entry-level Cadillac, it's going to be the one everybody wants...

hey Sal, you gonna try and get Danielle to buy one of those? it sounds like everything she was wanting in a car.

Dont expect much, i'm at work right now so i dont have alot of time...

Original
http://www.willfall.com/cts/cts_08_orig.jpg
Modified:
Dropped, 22's, tints, funky grill, as close to "Stealth Gray as i could get... Oh, and no stupid side vent :P
http://www.willfall.com/cts/cts_08_mod.jpg

I'm at work, maybe i'll throw together a black one later if i get bored

DAMN! That thing is gorgeous, inside and out - vents included. I'll take six.

I like it however , I am going to keep my 2005 as it only has 6800 miles on it!

I like the rearend, kinda looks like the STS

I don't like it. The grill is ugly and they ruined the great lines on our car. The interior is the only good upgrade IMO. I'm glad I got an 07 before they screwed it up.

Man I'm hating this more and more everytime I see it. This car is just beautiful. I got to get it

Wow! You did THAT at work?!?! That looks great. Puts the whole design of the car in perspective... Lets see more! Anyone bored?

Oh my... Just as I predicted, simply amazing. Major improvments to the interior but wheres the pust to start???

it has the grill of the new escalade, and I saw a 07 escalade recently with the double mesh grill...... it looks sick, you will probably be able to do that with the 08 cts.. I think it will look nice, needs a rear spoiler though.. and hopefully they make the rear window visor for it as well.... with tints.... it iwll look nice and sharp.

I really love it so far! This will most likely be my next car (repeat CTS buyer)!

http://i16.tinypic.com/4cmvo9d.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i16.tinypic.com/4cmvo9d.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

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heated and cooled seats
key in pocket technology
all wheel drive
only 6 speeds transmissions offered
automatically adjusts headlamp direction
300bhp V6
the sts's 11 speaker surround sound systemI found this very detaled article on a GM forum and had to edit it a little to fit 15000 characters:
http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14705







ALL-NEW 2008 CADILLAC CTS DESIGN INTENDS TO INJECT DRAMATIC CHARACTER INTO THE LUXURY SEDAN CATEGORY


Dimensionally, the 2008 CTS is 191.6 inches (4766 mm) long, 72.5 inches (1841 mm) wide and 58 inches (1472 mm) in height. Wheelbase is 113.4 inches (2880 mm) with a front/rear track of 61.8 / 62.0 inches (1575 / 1585 mm).
Interior: performance and elegance combine



Upper instrument panel and door trim surfaces are hand-cut, sewn and wrapped by expert craftsmen. Analog instrumentation that is tightly framed with a compact hood tri-tubular, chromed cluster, is defined by bright accents. An integrated center stack design, with either a satin metallic finish or genuine Sapele wood, blends into the lower instrument panel that sweeps forward and away of front-seat occupants. The hand-assembled center console leads seamlessly into the center stack, providing a sportier “cockpit” feel for the driver and passenger without compromising space.

Heated and ventilated seats incorporate new “thin-seat” technology for maximum occupant comfort and enhanced rear-seat leg, knee and foot room. A signature V-shaped medallion appears as a decorative touch on the backs of the front seats. French stitching is used throughout the interior, including the upper instrument panel, door inserts, seats and the shifter boot.

Clean, white ambient light emitting diode (LED) soft backlighting is positioned in the door pulls, foot wells and recessed between the upper and lower instrument panels. The result is a dramatic effect similar to recessed lighting used in contemporary homes.

The leather-wrapped steering wheel includes standard integrated controls for cruise and audio system.

Inside and out, the 2008 CTS exemplifies an evolution of Cadillac design that achieves a remarkable combination of luxury, technology and performance in a sedan aimed at creating the desire and head-turning quotient normally reserved for sports cars.
2008 CADILLAC CTS ADDS ALL-WHEEL DRIVE, NEW DIRECT-INJECTION V-6 AND SIX-SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION


DETROIT – The all-new 2008 Cadillac CTS has been painstakingly designed and engineered to unite luxury sedan poise and sports car performance. A redesigned chassis, an enhanced engine and transmission lineup and all-wheel drive combine to push the CTS further in all directions with more power and performance, enhanced ride quality, quietness and safety.


New 3.6L V-6 VVT, six-speed automatic join powertrain lineup



The 2008 Cadillac CTS features GM’s new 3.6L direct-injection V-6 VVT engine, delivering an estimated 300 horsepower (223 kW) and 270 lb.-ft. (366 Nm) of torque. This new powerplant is a compelling mixture of power, smoothness, efficiency and technical sophistication.

The 3.6L direct-injection engine will be the top-level engine option for the 2008 CTS, joining the existing 2.8L V-6 and 3.6L V-6. Designed to operate with regular unleaded gasoline, the new 3.6-liter direct-injection V-6 produces power similar to many V-8 engines, but with much better fuel economy. With direct injection, fuel is delivered directly to the combustion chamber to create a more complete burn of the air/fuel mixture. Less fuel is required to produce the equivalent horsepower, especially at normal cruising speeds, of a conventional port-injection combustion system.

The application of gasoline direct-injection technology on the 3.6L VVT engine contributes greatly to a 15-percent increase in horsepower; 8-percent increase in torque, and 3-percent improvement in brake-specific fuel consumption. Additionally, the application of direct injection reduces cold-start hydrocarbon emissions by 25 percent.

For the first time, the 2008 CTS will be available in both rear- and all-wheel-drive configurations. Additionally, the transmission lineup now consists only of six-speed units – an Aisin six-speed manual or – new for CTS – a Hydra-Matic 6L50 six-speed automatic.

The current 3.6L VVT engine that produces 258 horsepower (192 kW) and 252 lb.-ft (342 Nm) of torque will serve as the base engine in North America and will be available in rear- and all-wheel-drive layouts.

The 2.8L VVT engine will be available only on rear-drive export models of the CTS. The all-aluminum, 60-degree DOHC, four-valve-per-cylinder engine develops 210 horsepower (156 kW) at 6500 rpm and 194 lb.-ft. (263 Nm) of torque at 3200 rpm.

The Aisin six-speed manual transmission, introduced in 2005, is fully synchronized (including reverse) with a single overdrive. This allows for lower propshaft speeds and improved engine noise, vibration and harshness. A new short-throw shifter has been added for improved precision.

The Hydra-Matic 6L50 six-speed automatic is the same transmission introduced on the Cadillac STS-V in 2005, and is designed to decrease engine rpm and enhance overall fuel economy.

On vehicles equipped with the new all-wheel-drive system, the 6L50 will be equipped with a new active transfer case that automatically transfers torque from the rear to the front of the vehicle for optimal traction, safety and performance. A limited-slip differential also is available.
Chassis enhancements include all wheel drive, globally tested suspension



The 2008 CTS features a greatly revised chassis featuring a two-inch wider track and the application of all-wheel drive. The front track is increased to 61.8 inches (1569 mm), and rear track is now 62.0 inches (1575 mm). Wheelbase remains at 113.4 inches (2880 mm).



The use of aluminum in the upper and lower front control arms and knuckles helps reduce mass and contributes to higher limits in handling and dynamic wheel control. Front suspensions for the rear-drive model and the all-wheel-drive version, while similar, have been designed to best meet the chassis dynamics of the individual versions.

The engine cradle has six attachment points, two more than typically used on a performance sedan, to better handle heavier loads and engine vibration.

New for CTS is a tower-to-tower brace that adds cross-car stiffness and enhances the overall steering feel. This is an innovation from the high-performance CTS-V model that has been modified and adapted for use in the 2008 CTS.

The multilink rear suspension, with a fully isolated subframe, is an uncompromising design with excellent suspension kinematics that delivers a superior ride with excellent handling. The rear suspension design is shared in both the rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive models, and has been extensively revised to accommodate the larger rear track.

The braking and steering systems for CTS are all-new, with extensive changes to increase responsiveness, premium “feel” and performance in spirited driving conditions.

The 2008 CTS features standard 17-by-8-inch aluminum wheels paired with Michelin H-rated (P235/55R17) all-season radials. The optional performance suspension includes an 18- by- 8.5-inch wheel with the all-new Michelin Pilot Sport 2 (P235/50R18) tire that can either be V- or Y- (summer) rated.

In addition to this finely tuned hardware, the 2008 CTS features advanced chassis technology in the form of Cadillac’s StabiliTrak electronic chassis control system. StabiliTrak integrates the car’s standard four-channel ABS with the full-function traction control, hydraulic brake assist and engine drag control systems.

Integrated iPod/MP3 capability



Designed in consultation with the engineers behind the iPod and other computer and entertainment industry experts, the center console of the CTS is tailored for MP3 players. iPods or other digital music devices can be charged via a USB port, which also enables playlists to appear on the car’s touch-screen and steering wheel controls to be used to advance tracks. Both the USB and auxiliary audio jacks are located conveniently within the console, providing an easy storage location and eliminating cords hanging from the audio system.
Adaptive forward lighting system



When equipped with the uplevel high-intensity discharge (HID) headlamps, the CTS also includes an advanced forward lighting system that automatically adjusts headlamp direction for improved nighttime driving visibility. The system uses software algorithms to compute speed and steering wheel angle input in determining how fast and how far to turn the headlamps. The system is capable of turning the headlamps a maximum of 15 degrees inboard and 5 degrees outboard on each lamp.
Easy Key™ system with Smart Remote Start

The optional Easy Key™ system enables passive vehicle and trunk entry and keyless ignition via a personalized keyless fob. With the fob in a pocket or purse, a person can approach a locked vehicle, pull the door handle and open the door or trunk.

To start the vehicle, the fob must be inside the vehicle, and the brake pedal depressed – a process that combines engine immobilization and anti-theft protection. The system works via five ferrite stick antennas located in the front door handles, headliner, center console and in the rear of the car. Upon pulling either exterior front door handle, the door handle antennae communicate with the key fob, and within 240 milliseconds, authorize the identity of the driver and unlock the door or trunk.

The optional Smart Remote Start system – which operates from as far as 200 feet – not only starts the vehicle via fob activation, but also activates the climate control and the optional heated and cooled seats, depending on temperatures outside and inside the car.
Bose 5.1 Cabin Surround™ audio system



The new CTS can be equipped with a true digital surround sound audio system – developed by Bose – that provides concert-quality sound normally reserved for home theaters. The 300-watt, 10-speaker system incorporates the exclusive Bose Centerpoint technology, which makes two-channel audio information very rich and spacious. Even the base audio system is a Bose unit, and will include an eight-speaker arrangement.
DVD-based navigation with telescoping touch-screen

The DVD-based navigation system conducts route calculation 30 percent faster than current systems, displays freeway exit information (such as service stations, restaurants) via expandable icons, and covers all roads and streets in the U.S. and Canada (nearly seven million miles) on a single DVD. The system allows route planning to items stored in memory via voice commands and/or voice tags. The optional system utilizes a telescoping eight-inch diagonal high-resolution full VGA infotainment display head with full touch-screen. The display head – which rises up out of the top of the vehicle’s integrated center stack – provides outstanding clarity enabled by 800- by 480 pixel resolution. A large viewable area (approximately 104- by 174 mm) contributes to its easy interface.

Other useful and significant electronic systems include a heated windshield washer system, rear ultrasonic park assist, heated and ventilated front seats and power rake/telescoping steering column.
Hand-crafted luxury in the cabin; focus on quality throughout



Though it features modern exterior design and advanced technologies, the CTS also borrows a page from Cadillac’s rich and elegant past. CTS incorporates a hand-crafted luxury interior that brings Cadillac tradition into the modern world of the luxury sports sedan.

The new cabin utilizes Cadillac’s new “cut-and-sew” interior process that combines advanced technology with the hand-rendered precision of expert craftsmen. Coverings for components such as the instrument panel, center console and door trim are cut, sewn and wrapped by hand. This enables details such as decorative French stitching, and the near elimination of gaps and seams for a superbly tailored appearance. This is the same painstaking process applied to Cadillac’s limited-production STS-V and XLR-V models, and the revised 2007 SRX, bringing old-world craftsmanship into the heart of the luxury marketplace.


The use of advanced laser-brazing on the exterior roof surface delivers an uninterrupted, class-A surface across the top of the vehicle, free of ditch joints that are common on other vehicles. Areas such as the windshield and backlight are precisely installed and eliminate external appliques that are used on many other vehicles.

Detailed analysis of sound and vibration was lavished on the CTS, targeting the sound levels found in elite prestige luxury sedans. This analysis reduces overall cabin noise, via improved body sealing and sound insulation. It also focused on tuning the quality of the remaining sound, including – in some cases – adding to sound levels. A perforated pattern has been added to the inside of the tailpipes to increase resonance, adding more pleasing, low-frequency sounds to counteract high-frequency noise. Inside the cabin, tones were added to a few otherwise-silent switches and controls.

The hood includes sealing techniques normally used on vehicle doors for greater noise and vibration control.

GM Media (http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/news/events/autoshows/07naias/brands/cadillac/07_NAIAS_Cadillac_CTS%20Specs_rev121506.htm)

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i13.tinypic.com/2qs9mz8.jpg%5B/IMG%5D

Someone please get me a pic of the damn navi.....im dying to see it :D

did anyone else notice the size of the sunroof? freaking huge.

Project anyone?

Just wondering if anyone has Photoshopped the Factory 2008 CTS Images to make them look like how YOU would customize it, colors, wheels, etc...

If not, Anyone have any time on their hands to play around with black w/ black rims/chrome lip?

merged here

Wow the picture in silver shows of the lines so much better, if you think this thing has "toned down" and rounded I think your wrong, the rear end is much like a cube.

The STS is certainly going to be changed, replaced or something, they wont sell any with this thing next to on it the floor...well except for those who want the extra room and a bit more power in a full featured V8. I can't help but wonder what will be done to the Northstar to place it ahead of the DI 3.6. I wonder if DI can be done to the Northstar, and if it can, what kind of gains can be seen, and what kind of power would a DI SC Northstar bring...future is looking good for Cadillac.

damn annie, best post ever :)

damn annie, best post ever :)

I dunno Urb....She kinda enlarged the page :want:

I like that they seemed to address what needed to be fixed ,but kept what made the CTS unique

Someone please get me a pic of the damn navi.....im dying to see it :D

I looked igh and low and this was the best I could find. Gess we need to wait till someone terns the car on.

http://i12.tinypic.com/4bqj3x2.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i12.tinypic.com/4bqj3x2.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

why No Hand Brake, Again?!!??!?!?

:(:(:(:(:(:(

THat Chrome trim on the rear bumper is SNAZZY!

Makes me want to not put anymore money into my 03, how are you going to compete with that?..I hate it!!! but, it's hot

I dunno Urb....She kinda enlarged the page :want:

sorry i have no idea how to preven that.:halo::halo:

Also I did not write that post except for the top part everything else is cut and paste.

I dunno Urb....She kinda enlarged the page :want:

dude

duuuuuuude

its 2007

1680 x 1050 > *

dude

duuuuuuude

its 2007

1680 x 1050 > *

I see you have a 20.1" Widescreen monitor, probably the Dell 2005FPW ;)

Why won't anyone answer me?!

WHY NO HAND BRAKE! :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

I showed pics to my wife tonight. She likes it. Sounds like a green light to me. Bring on the coupe.

why No Hand Brake, Again?!!??!?!?

Why, it would get in the way of the cupholders of course. :p

No bandit turn-arounds. I think we'll manage somehow.

I looked igh and low and this was the best I could find. Gess we need to wait till someone terns the car on.

http://i12.tinypic.com/4bqj3x2.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i12.tinypic.com/4bqj3x2.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

where is the nav

i'm not really a fan.... i like my car better... how bout you guys? ha... why that color for the pictures??? and no model with the nav wouldnt you think it would almost be standard by 08??

where is the nav

it pops up when you need it.

Why, it would get in the way of the cupholders of course. :p

No bandit turn-arounds. I think we'll manage somehow.

I'm dyin' here. :rofl:

Check the Cadillac site out. They have it up and even have a really beautiful red to down load as Wallpaper.

i should have read all the posts before i posted, i like the sunroof, the grill def needs to be changed... but i'm sure there will be plenty of mods available..... if not people here willl help create some.... i think it needs a little cadillacforum touch... they should really get some input from us....we could probably make the 2010's a lot hotter..... someone write a letter

shoot one more thing sorry for my 3rd post on this topic in like 5 minutes... the ambien lights on the doorhandles and floor are sooooooo hot....

anyone else notice the "HDD" button on the dash near the XM button? does that mean the radio will have built-in storage for MP3?

wow good call, it looks like it could even integrate that xm receiver that allows you to record songs when they are playing..... that is a really good find!!!

Hay I saw a cool comarison of the interior of the 2008 CTS and its competition. hear is my version.


2008 CTS
http://i10.tinypic.com/4bds67a.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i10.tinypic.com/4bds67a.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


2007 CTS
http://i16.tinypic.com/2a8p5sl.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i16.tinypic.com/2a8p5sl.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


G35
http://i13.tinypic.com/30kagx5.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i13.tinypic.com/30kagx5.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


IS 350
http://i18.tinypic.com/2hi6tu8.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/2hi6tu8.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


TL
http://i18.tinypic.com/3ydgni9.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/3ydgni9.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


330i
http://i18.tinypic.com/34xkmsw.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/34xkmsw.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


A4
http://i18.tinypic.com/47jxa34.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/47jxa34.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)



C- class
http://i18.tinypic.com/48f6plx.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/48f6plx.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)



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haha smokey and the bandit

points! oh wait....

annie, thank you for rehosting the pics.....you're an example to others here :)

i love that g35 interior...no question. it does look like they snagged a bunch of stuff from them and went from there...

annie, thank you for rehosting the pics.....you're an example to others here :)

Thanks:cloud9::cloud9:

Eventhough all of you guys are raving about the new car, did you guys see the curve weight on this fatty? 3800+lbs!!!!
What's the point of getting a more powerful engine?

Nice comparison, Annie.. What a huge improvement over the current CTS interior.. This stacks up very well with the competition. And, in most cases, is better.. This CTS is going to be a serious hot seller..

Hay I saw a cool comarison of the interior of the 2008 CTS and its competition. hear is my version.


2008 CTS
http://i10.tinypic.com/4bds67a.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i10.tinypic.com/4bds67a.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


2007 CTS
http://i16.tinypic.com/2a8p5sl.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i16.tinypic.com/2a8p5sl.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


G35
http://i13.tinypic.com/30kagx5.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i13.tinypic.com/30kagx5.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


IS 350
http://i18.tinypic.com/2hi6tu8.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/2hi6tu8.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


TL
http://i18.tinypic.com/3ydgni9.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/3ydgni9.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


330i
http://i18.tinypic.com/34xkmsw.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/34xkmsw.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)


A4
http://i18.tinypic.com/47jxa34.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/47jxa34.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)



C- class
http://i18.tinypic.com/48f6plx.jpg (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i18.tinypic.com/48f6plx.jpg%5B/IMG%5D)

anyone else notice the "HDD" button on the dash near the XM button? does that mean the radio will have built-in storage for MP3?

Actually HDD stands for High Definition Digital Radio. I've heard that quality on HDD is way better then XM or Sirius, and no subscription needed
I would be very surprised if GM went for that.

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-tLQAkcBdLiE/learningcenter/car/hdradio.html?page=1

Nice comparison, Annie.. What a huge improvement over the current CTS interior.. This stacks up very well with the competition. And, in most cases, is better.. This CTS is going to be a serious hot seller..
I totally agree... How unique can the CTS interior be? All of those cars pictured are ergonomically, aesthetically, and functionally pleasing to the owner. They all look the same, because they all WORK! They haven't reinvented the wheel, but what car company has? They all have a steering wheel, buttons, a display for speed, rpm, temp, etc... they all do it a little different to try and be better or more innovative, but they're all the same in the end.

Devil, true, the CTS gained about 300 lbs, but the HP increase should help to offset. I want to see some magazine ratings on 0-60 in all engine and transmission combos. I'm especially excited about the 300hp AWD for my gf's next car. She could be safe in the winter and I could have mucho fun in the summer.

More than that, I want the coupe. We've all seen photochops of what a new CTC could be, I want to see some of our photoshop guru's make me a new CTC off the new models.

I totally agree... How unique can the CTS interior be? All of those cars pictured are ergonomically, aesthetically, and functionally pleasing to the owner. They all look the same, because they all WORK! They haven't reinvented the wheel, but what car company has? They all have a steering wheel, buttons, a display for speed, rpm, temp, etc... they all do it a little different to try and be better or more innovative, but they're all the same in the end.

Devil, true, the CTS gained about 300 lbs, but the HP increase should help to offset. I want to see some magazine ratings on 0-60 in all engine and transmission combos. I'm especially excited about the 300hp AWD for my gf's next car. She could be safe in the winter and I could have mucho fun in the summer.

More than that, I want the coupe. We've all seen photochops of what a new CTC could be, I want to see some of our photoshop guru's make me a new CTC off the new models.

sadly the bmw 335 runs 0-60 around 5 flat, lexus is350 runs 0-60 around 5 flat and g35 is not too far from 5 flat range. With the additional weight, current cts runing 0-60 in about mid 6 to 7, i highly doubt seeing the new unit getting anywhere near the bmw or is

Not to mention the impact of added weight on brake/tire/gas usage and cornering/acceleration/braking performance

With the exception of the front (which i like alot), i think it still looks pretty much the same. I luv my cts with the V front bumper conversion and dont see myself getting into debt to get this newer version. While the interior of the current cts model isn't all that, just invest in an aluminim kit and you'd be amazed at the difference. Everyone should wait till its out their to make their final judgements. These cars always seem better than they really are when they are first introduced!

All those being compared makes are CTS(03-07) interior dash look soo ugly

The more I see this thing, the more I like it. Can't wait until the Chicago auto show next month, hopefully they'll have a floor model so I can get some quality interior time and pics :cloud9:

Did they mention anything about a manual tranny?

I posted a new thread about my seat time in the new CTS, but it was merged with this one. I'm beat, and haven't the time to go through all of these comments, so I apologize if I don't see a question you may have asked.

I received an email notification asking about right kneeroom in the driver's seat. I sat in the front passenger's seat, am not a long-legged person (31" inseam), and focused on the quality of materials and assembly. So I have no idea.

Book says transmissions will be a six-speed manual and a six-speed automatic. Tires will be Michelin Pilot Sport 2. Double panel sunroof. Bose 5.1 with 10 speakers.

CSM Forecasting provides a little book about future products. They have the next CTS-V down for a 6.2-liter engine with 500+ horsepower. No idea what this is based on, though I believe they have many industry sources.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but anyone who thinks they won't love the new car is in for a rude awakening when they get to really see it. Anyone who likes the current CTS is going to want this one BADLY. The preview car is silver, and I suspect it looks best in that color. The red car in the photos doesn't make the changes in the exterior as obvious.

gary, when are you going? I'll be there on valentine's day with my lady. I'm so romantic :D

mkaresh, I've heard the same thing about the LS3 (6.2L) with 500+ HP. Also heard S/C N* engine. Who knows. The hot rod (push rod) boys want a LS based engine so tuning and tweaking will be easy and relatively cheap. I'm sure GM wants a complicated engine like the N* so every tom dick and harry with a set of sockets can't jack up their engine and call it a defect. My personal preference would be a wicked multi-cammer with VVT and some form of forced induction. Only time will tell. 09 model year is coming upon us soon!

As far as the hand-brake goes...not really sure what purpose they serve other than drifting....and even that, when done properly, is done with out any braking....plus there are many other ways to get the rear wheels locked up than the hand brake which will just flat spot them.

If you need a hand brake to get yourself started on a hill try to learn how to heel-toe the pedals like the pros.

I can only imagine this thing in CTS-V racing trim for the SCCA World Challenge races. I prefer a foot brake for the added space in the center console and they always seem to make the car feel cheaper, that clicking sound they make when you pull them up for example, with this, just place it on and go, plus if you park your car in neutral your just asking for trouble anyway.

Looking at those pictures, none of the interiors look like clones of each other....honestly I think people compare them based on familar colors or shapes, but looking at the comparison about it looks pretty unique to me.

My comments:

1: I think the car looks great outside and inside!

2: How unique can the interior be.. It needs to have a wheel on the left, a bunch of pedals, etc.. They save the concept stuff for concept cars... What is unique on that interior verus the others that you show is the center AC vents... MUCH better location in my mind.. I dont usually like cold/hot/other air in my face (and its usually dry due to the A/C so this will work/ look better in my mind that its lower).

3: Notice there is a stick and a auto version... So they are keeping the stick. Notice there is no paddle shifters...

4: Nav screen pops up? Cool...

5: I like the front bulging out (look at a side shot) like the sixteen...

6: Same platform yes. But they are not going to do a new platform every few years... Aside from some powertrain issues (see differential) what is wrong with the sigma? anyone? I think it handles GREAT!

just some thoughts...

Oh, and here is a static link for the FAQ site where I will put every picture I can find and all the data I can find:

http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/2008

Reed

my new caddi is only 3 weeks old and im pissed off already, that this is pretty cool looking, i do have some qualms about the interior design, maybe it'll all be fixed in 3 years when the lease is up and i get my 2010 CTS

Suffice to say I'll take a coupe with direct injection please, maybe even a hardtop convertible :cloud9: . In the meantime the tail lights and wheels would look fantastic on my 04. :D

This thing is beautiful. I've been anticipating this for years and the timing is perfect since I'll be looking for a new car (yes, again) late this summer. So far, my top two choices are this and the new Pontiac G8 (aka Holden Commodore SS-V). It's going to be a tough choice come August.

Absolutely love the car, inside and out. When the V6 version goes on sale, mine will be 1 year old. I want a V next time around though so we'll see, I'm thinking its going to be another year before it shows its face so I'll either have to wait that extra year or drive around with 2-CTS's not to mention my new dually I'll be picking up next March lol.

YES YOU ALL GET THE NEW CADILLAC CTS.....MAKING THE DEMAND FOR THE OLDER CTS LOWER...AND MAKING IT EASIER TO GET MY NEW 05 CTS MAKIG IT LOOK SHARP LIKE YOUR NEW CTS :yup:

few other points I noticed:

1. Locking glove box. Still in the passenger foot area though- not upper glove box

2. Still has a key.. No keyless start. maybe an option/ option package?

3. LED high beams

4. Traction control on the top dash (wheel?)

5. HDD button on radio- Built in HDD (I heard yes...)

6. Also a record button which confirms #5. what else would you be recording but a CD to mp3 on the built in hard drive?

7. Seat heaters and seat ventilators (in the press release)

8. Cruise control on wheel liek CTS-V.

9. lights on left stalk (not the dash like some cars)

more to come....

few other points I noticed:


5. HDD button on radio- Built in HDD (I heard yes...)

6. Also a record button which confirms #5. what else would you be recording but a CD to mp3 on the built in hard drive?

....

So it's a hard drive, not HDD Radio ? that's cool
I've heard new Lexus, don't remember model does come with a hard drive

I think infinity does too...

I am not 100% on the HDD button, but its my guess... Why the record button if no Hard disk? where exactly are your recording to?

Did everyone notice the USB port near the ipod (for power to the ipod and maybe usb flash)?

Holy CRAP I am a dork... (could be that CES is this week)

I need to step back for a sec an appreciate the overall design.. It does look good.. Cant wait to see the V differentiated and more agressive!

Reed

I think infinity does too...

I am not 100% on the HDD button, but its my guess... Why the record button if no Hard disk? where exactly are your recording to?

Did everyone notice the USB port near the ipod (for power to the ipod and maybe usb flash)?

Holy CRAP I am a dork... (could be that CES is this week)

I need to step back for a sec an appreciate the overall design.. It does look good.. Cant wait to see the V differentiated and more agressive!

Reed

Infiniti G35, MB S-Class, Mitsu SUV are the few that comes with harddrive builtin
I think most of these use 1.8" drive that can be upgraded (not through the dealership) to bigger capacity.

Wow... I made this thread last night, go out all of today, come back, and it's 16 pages!

Looks like I'm gonn have 3 CTS's soon lol... Or wait till the new V... Yeah, I should do that.

It does have Keyless entry and remote start, just no push button start....in all honesty I think I'm differant than most, I like the feeling of turning that key, hearing the starter and turning it myself.

I haven't heard much about them but what do you do when your battery is dead or does it just crank and crank the longer you hold the button?

In any event as I said, something about driving a car and having a key turn to start all the action instead of just a button like everything else these days.

By the way Jon, nice looking black CTS-V, people can 'pimp' the rims, change the grills, but I still like the stock look of them in black.

Ok, I been away for a few weeks and this was the first I read here. Already 16 pages! Well, I didn't read all the pages. All pro's and con's. Just gonna say how I feel like it:

This 2008 CTS is a 100% improvement of the current CTS. For it's class it is well loaded and more than complete. The interior is now following the style of the exterior and they made it very very beatiful! 300 Hp AWD is very promising. So the 258 hp will be provided by the 2.8 then? The 2.8 turbo in the BLS is exactly performing those numbers...

I think the vents style is copied from the BMW, sadly. When, then copy it from the Sixteen and not from another brand. But all in al I like the look of it. Even better than the current CTS. It looks more complete and all lines connect in one style. The CTS has grown up now.

The grille looks more spectacular than the plastic grill of the non-V or the current Sports package. I am wondering how the new V will look like! Or is this going to be the V? How about the new V-performance?

I think I will start saving up for the new model. But I will also mod some on my 06 until about 2009 when I will be able to get the new model.

But still, that new Camaro is also very appealing!

here's my comparison

2008 CTS
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BTW, i think i saw a HDD button on the 2008 - which i believe stands for Hard Drive - that would be the coolest!!!! I still see no blue-tooth or auxilary input but it may not be shown...

What happened to the wheel (volume) on the steering?... i kinda like that feature as opposed to buttons...

But still, that new Camaro is also very appealing!

article from the new movie "transformers

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The new dash looks OK, but I like the center controls angled toward the driver. Those radio and HVAC controls are MINE, not the passenger's. I also don't care for any bright metalwork on the dash - leave it black, woodgrain, or maybe leather. Heck, I don't even like the chrome rings Cadillac put around the gauges on my SRX. Strictly from our personal situation, I like that they kept both seat heater / cooling controls on the dash. Left on her own, my poor wife would toast herself with seat heaters.

Without starting WWIII, I kind of like the idea that they are bringing back the separate clock. I've been noticing my own driving and realize that there are many times that I've changed volume or changed radio stations and then tend to look for the time - only to have to wait for the radio to revert to the time display. Hopefully, GM has come up with a way to synchronize the time displays so we don't get a rash of threads about clocks that don't match, ala 2003.

in case anyone missed it, there IS an ipod/aux input in the center console

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/01/x08ca_ct016.jpg

here's my comparison
BTW, i think i saw a HDD button on the 2008 - which i believe stands for Hard Drive - that would be the coolest!!!! I still see no blue-tooth or auxilary input but it may not be shown...

What happened to the wheel (volume) on the steering?... i kinda like that feature as opposed to buttons...

Aux input is in the center console with a usb port. I'm going to guess that this may have the ability to copy music to your hard drive or record them into the harddrive

That could be to charge it also though

the picture doesn't show it charging though...if it was charging, than it would have a little lightning bolt on the battery indicator...

might only charge when engine running? Do IPODs charge threw USB or only seperate dongle?

I'd imagine it would either allow for charging or not run the battery down and run it on "AC power" so to speak. The designed the system in combination with Apple.

This may already be posted with the thread, but the presentation can be viewed here:

http://gmtv.feedroom.com/ifr_main.jsp?nsid=b-7c8d0189:110077ece5c:7f08&fr_story=FEEDROOM171910&st=1168359640015&mp=WMP&cpf=true&fvn=9&fr=010907_112009_w7c8d0189x110077ece5cx7f09&rdm=917807.0149296981

I was highly impressed by it, and highly recommend watching it. I've posted my impressions from sitting in the car in a separate thread, so I'll be able to find and respond to any questions people may have.

Hey guys I got the point of those side vents from GMI they say that these vents resembles the flying woman of old cadillacs

see this is left wing
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2007_detroit/0701_z+2008_cadillac_cts+vent_detail.jpg

and on the right side will be the right wing

here's some pics from 1930 Cadillac V16 Imperial Limousine
http://northstargallery.com/cars/car14aweb.jpg

here's another one attached hope u get the point

here u go guys under the hood shot hope u like it

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/7867/1122007detroitautoshow5fh9.jpg

where the heck are u ppl finding these amazing pics!:thumbsup:

I dont know what some people are looking at but that car is gorgous. In this group of photos it's sporting 19" rims too!!! Nice

The original CTS took awhile to grow on me.. This one will take some time to grow on people too.. However, I think 95 out of 100 love it already..

I dunno Urb....She kinda enlarged the page :want:

I fixed it.. The images were just side by side instead of on top of one another..

Annie is good. :)

Why, it would get in the way of the cupholders of course. :p

No bandit turn-arounds. I think we'll manage somehow.

Really.. The bottom line is, it's a Cadillac.. Not a GTO or Mustang...

Hay tell me how you like these pics. I think this color and angle show the true power of the A piler back design.

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AND HERE IS A GREAT PHOTO CHOP FROM
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^^You're right, those A pillars look sexy! But overall it still looks WAY too much like a Honda Accord, no?

That's what I wanted to see... thanks annie. I'm sold. That thing is dead sexy.

Only thing I'm dissappointed about is that the CTS at the auto show is sporting 19" rims, but from everything that I've read the 08 CTS will only be available with 17" std and 18" as an opt.

oh come on people.

this car IS a nice car, but its a NICE STS not a cts.

what do you think this car will come in as as far as price?

I know my cts with all its options was around 40k, what do you think this one will be?

Cadillac and their "young team of designers" (yeah right, young in their 50's) completely screwed the pooch on this one. The cts is supposed to be targeted at a younger audience, to capture the luxury/sport market, not to be some land yacht.
here lets go through some of the total idiocy here:
300hp engine, non forced induction. Congrats cadillac, you are now only 10 hp behind everyone else in this market segment.
300lbs ADDED weight. Yeah thats right, 50 more horses in the premium package and the equivalent of a fat guy in your back seat to weigh you down.
A pop up Nav.. did you learn nothing from the headache and fiasco of the G35 sport coupe. and how high is that thing when its up there? I can now give directions to the guy behind me in traffic, great. and ooh its a FOLD AWAY touch screen. freaking brilliant. So wait, the screen on my cts nav that is always available for use is NOT a touch screen while this new one, this is made to be put away and is not really reachable when you are sitting is designed to be a touch screen? oh good god.
hey wow aux audio inputs. what a great "new" feature... that is already in the euro CTS. I guess we are finally smart enough to warrant an aux input.
AWD. yeah. we wanted it, its awesome. BUT IT ALSO adds even MORE weight to this fat pig of a car, and this AWD is not even a sports version, its a SUV version.
What the hell happend to "sport"? The car is supposed to be nimble and quick, tear through the turns, speed off and really make that bmw and mercedes think for a minute as you run away from them in the twisties.
Oh, i see what you did cadillac. you tried to compensate for the added sandbags by pushing the wheels out a WHOLE HALF inch on each side, good going. I hope you get fired..... from your job .. and then out of a cannon.. into a brick wall.. not more than 15 feet away.
Hey wow.. nice center stack integration there.. now we have no hope in hell of ever upgrading the crappy BOSE sound system. "its got ten speakers" I would settle for 6 - 8 real good ones thanks.
And what the hell happened to active suspension, you know that real cool magnetic suspension you developed? oh wait.. the cts is not good enough for that.
The front end... do you people at gm not read. THAT exact front end on the audi was WIDELY derrided (made fun of) and no one at gm noticed?
Hey nice rearend, did the STS and DTS have a bastard child? and why the hell is the end "flipped up"? The exhaust tips are as high as my knee.
hey gee. the headlights turn with you.. thats great.. if it hadnt already been done by acura and infinity.. and even they stole the idea off the Tucker.
Side vents.. umm ... does anyone else here see "BUICK" in those?
And where the hell is my Heads up Display? my grand prix had it, the buick regal GS had it.. wait.. they have had it since 1997. Get with the program.

So lets recap...
So this car or a current STS. lets see what I would buy. since the new CTS is going to be more expensive than the STS.. hmm.. and I can get a V-8 in the STS...
good way to shoot yourself in the foot there GM. Lets make a "new" car that is physically very similiar to a current model and has the same "luxury" options as it.
And replacing the CTS after only 4 model years... thats tantamount to saying "yeah, the cts we sold all of you morons was a piece of crap.. we started making a new version the second year it was out.. hey look we sort of fixed all the crap and made the cts a bit more like how it was supposed to be from the start."

Heh, who wants to bet that this new cts still comes with the Analog Onstar that you have to upgrade to digital next year? freaking penny anty BS.


an expensive touch screen that you never see.... good god..


-K

Yea, I think the photoshop of the coupe looks a little similar to a Honda Accord Coupe

No more big creases on the sides. So much for the stealth fighter look. Maybe a little too flowing?

Yea, I think the photoshop of the coupe looks a little similar to a Honda Accord Coupe

I think it looks more like an updated Eldo. Which, btw, would be a great name for the coupe when it comes out. Forget the three letter acronyms. Oh, but they're not really acronyms because the C in CTS doesn't mean Catera per GM.

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OMG!!! You just spoke my mind. Everything you said on here is what was on my mind. I was expecting a lot since all of its competition has stepped up big time but it seems like cadillac will be moving away from the sports part and focusing whole lot more into the luxury part instead.

Not only are they behind in the horsepower department, they're also very behind in weight and i highly doubt all around performance will be one of the best this time around. Interior looks great with few oversights but this is supposed to be the sports sedan competiting against bmw, lexus, infiniti, audi and mercedes benz.

Kael! You really hit the head of the nail with your post! I agree with almost everything you said! It DOES look more like a STS now and less like a CTS.

i'm feeling the sedan four door

but not the two door

whats the msrp sappose to be around on these?

You guys who have a problem with the CTSs weight.. It's weighing about the same as the 2003 and 2004 Mustang Cobra. The convertible is probably heavier. These cars were beating Z06s to the quarter mile..

What do you expect from a "Cadillac" "luxury" sport?

The car is nice. I really is like a slightly altered version of the STS, even down to the door handles (which i looooove. Anyway we can do that to our cars?) But in my opinion, the body styling is on par with that of the new lexus models and thus will not stand out. When the original CTS first came out, it REALLY stood out. Nevertheless, after i wear out my car in 3 to four years, ill probably get one. No hurry though. THE CTS was my first hot car and i love it so much that Cadillac probably has me for life!

RWD Curb Weights:

BMW 335i - 3593
Cadillac CTS - 3872
BMW M5 - 4012

Once again, it sits squarely in between the 3 and 5 series.

Nevertheless, after i wear out my car in 3 to four years, ill probably get one. No hurry though. THE CTS was my first hot car and i love it so much that Cadillac probably has me for life!



Yup!

dubbed, in a couple of the posted articles its mentioned that the nav screen will come out of the top of the column just like the g35 coupe.

Where did you guy read it was going to be a pop up nav?
it's unvelied from the cadillac.com site in the third video he mentioned that it's a popup screen

The song by "Nuttin' But Stringz" that they played during the introduction (I believe it's "Thunder"; Anyone know if that's right?) is very unique. Where can I get that to hear the whole thing?

oh come on people.

this car IS a nice car, but its a NICE STS not a cts.

what do you think this car will come in as as far as price?

I know my cts with all its options was around 40k, what do you think this one will be?

Cadillac and their "young team of designers" (yeah right, young in their 50's) completely screwed the pooch on this one. The cts is supposed to be targeted at a younger audience, to capture the luxury/sport market, not to be some land yacht.
here lets go through some of the total idiocy here:
300hp engine, non forced induction. Congrats cadillac, you are now only 10 hp behind everyone else in this market segment.
300lbs ADDED weight. Yeah thats right, 50 more horses in the premium package and the equivalent of a fat guy in your back seat to weigh you down.
A pop up Nav.. did you learn nothing from the headache and fiasco of the G35 sport coupe. and how high is that thing when its up there? I can now give directions to the guy behind me in traffic, great. and ooh its a FOLD AWAY touch screen. freaking brilliant. So wait, the screen on my cts nav that is always available for use is NOT a touch screen while this new one, this is made to be put away and is not really reachable when you are sitting is designed to be a touch screen? oh good god.
hey wow aux audio inputs. what a great "new" feature... that is already in the euro CTS. I guess we are finally smart enough to warrant an aux input.
AWD. yeah. we wanted it, its awesome. BUT IT ALSO adds even MORE weight to this fat pig of a car, and this AWD is not even a sports version, its a SUV version.
What the hell happend to "sport"? The car is supposed to be nimble and quick, tear through the turns, speed off and really make that bmw and mercedes think for a minute as you run away from them in the twisties.
Oh, i see what you did cadillac. you tried to compensate for the added sandbags by pushing the wheels out a WHOLE HALF inch on each side, good going. I hope you get fired..... from your job .. and then out of a cannon.. into a brick wall.. not more than 15 feet away.
Hey wow.. nice center stack integration there.. now we have no hope in hell of ever upgrading the crappy BOSE sound system. "its got ten speakers" I would settle for 6 - 8 real good ones thanks.
And what the hell happened to active suspension, you know that real cool magnetic suspension you developed? oh wait.. the cts is not good enough for that.
The front end... do you people at gm not read. THAT exact front end on the audi was WIDELY derrided (made fun of) and no one at gm noticed?
Hey nice rearend, did the STS and DTS have a bastard child? and why the hell is the end "flipped up"? The exhaust tips are as high as my knee.
hey gee. the headlights turn with you.. thats great.. if it hadnt already been done by acura and infinity.. and even they stole the idea off the Tucker.
Side vents.. umm ... does anyone else here see "BUICK" in those?
And where the hell is my Heads up Display? my grand prix had it, the buick regal GS had it.. wait.. they have had it since 1997. Get with the program.

So lets recap...
So this car or a current STS. lets see what I would buy. since the new CTS is going to be more expensive than the STS.. hmm.. and I can get a V-8 in the STS...
good way to shoot yourself in the foot there GM. Lets make a "new" car that is physically very similiar to a current model and has the same "luxury" options as it.
And replacing the CTS after only 4 model years... thats tantamount to saying "yeah, the cts we sold all of you morons was a piece of crap.. we started making a new version the second year it was out.. hey look we sort of fixed all the crap and made the cts a bit more like how it was supposed to be from the start."

Heh, who wants to bet that this new cts still comes with the Analog Onstar that you have to upgrade to digital next year? freaking penny anty BS.


an expensive touch screen that you never see.... good god..


-K

Good lord, where to start with this rant.

Apparently, you don't like the new CTS?

Why don't you wait for some performance numbers, and the real HP ratings before you blow a blood vessel? You might be surprised.

Curses!, Foiled again!

I was at the L.A. auto show in December (purposefully moved up two months so it wouldn't compete with the Detroit show) and of course GM did not preview the car there! I feel gipped that I didn't get to see and sit in this new beauty myself! Oh well, I'll have to settle for pictures.

In the mean time, I'll keep loving my 04 beauty 'till she eventually turns old and retires (like me!)

oh come on people.

this car IS a nice car, but its a NICE STS not a cts.

what do you think this car will come in as as far as price?

I know my cts with all its options was around 40k, what do you think this one will be?

Cadillac and their "young team of designers" (yeah right, young in their 50's) completely screwed the pooch on this one. The cts is supposed to be targeted at a younger audience, to capture the luxury/sport market, not to be some land yacht.
here lets go through some of the total idiocy here:
300hp engine, non forced induction. Congrats cadillac, you are now only 10 hp behind everyone else in this market segment.
300lbs ADDED weight. Yeah thats right, 50 more horses in the premium package and the equivalent of a fat guy in your back seat to weigh you down.
A pop up Nav.. did you learn nothing from the headache and fiasco of the G35 sport coupe. and how high is that thing when its up there? I can now give directions to the guy behind me in traffic, great. and ooh its a FOLD AWAY touch screen. freaking brilliant. So wait, the screen on my cts nav that is always available for use is NOT a touch screen while this new one, this is made to be put away and is not really reachable when you are sitting is designed to be a touch screen? oh good god.
hey wow aux audio inputs. what a great "new" feature... that is already in the euro CTS. I guess we are finally smart enough to warrant an aux input.
AWD. yeah. we wanted it, its awesome. BUT IT ALSO adds even MORE weight to this fat pig of a car, and this AWD is not even a sports version, its a SUV version.
What the hell happend to "sport"? The car is supposed to be nimble and quick, tear through the turns, speed off and really make that bmw and mercedes think for a minute as you run away from them in the twisties.
Oh, i see what you did cadillac. you tried to compensate for the added sandbags by pushing the wheels out a WHOLE HALF inch on each side, good going. I hope you get fired..... from your job .. and then out of a cannon.. into a brick wall.. not more than 15 feet away.
Hey wow.. nice center stack integration there.. now we have no hope in hell of ever upgrading the crappy BOSE sound system. "its got ten speakers" I would settle for 6 - 8 real good ones thanks.
And what the hell happened to active suspension, you know that real cool magnetic suspension you developed? oh wait.. the cts is not good enough for that.
The front end... do you people at gm not read. THAT exact front end on the audi was WIDELY derrided (made fun of) and no one at gm noticed?
Hey nice rearend, did the STS and DTS have a bastard child? and why the hell is the end "flipped up"? The exhaust tips are as high as my knee.
hey gee. the headlights turn with you.. thats great.. if it hadnt already been done by acura and infinity.. and even they stole the idea off the Tucker.
Side vents.. umm ... does anyone else here see "BUICK" in those?
And where the hell is my Heads up Display? my grand prix had it, the buick regal GS had it.. wait.. they have had it since 1997. Get with the program.

So lets recap...
So this car or a current STS. lets see what I would buy. since the new CTS is going to be more expensive than the STS.. hmm.. and I can get a V-8 in the STS...
good way to shoot yourself in the foot there GM. Lets make a "new" car that is physically very similiar to a current model and has the same "luxury" options as it.
And replacing the CTS after only 4 model years... thats tantamount to saying "yeah, the cts we sold all of you morons was a piece of crap.. we started making a new version the second year it was out.. hey look we sort of fixed all the crap and made the cts a bit more like how it was supposed to be from the start."

Heh, who wants to bet that this new cts still comes with the Analog Onstar that you have to upgrade to digital next year? freaking penny anty BS.


an expensive touch screen that you never see.... good god..


-K
First you complain about price, something that hasn't be really published yet. Then you say the car is to heavy. From there you mention you want magnetic ride control.

Magnetic ride control is EXPENSIVE and would drive the price up and the extra goodies would add even more weight, its the only caddy offered with a manual transmission, another cost saving point and probibly weight saving too, plus if you want performance fun, manual all the way.

Actually GMs biggest concern is people not buying the STS and instead buying this cheaper model. They would want nothing more than to have buyers buying the MORE EXPENSIVE car. I expect this to be priced the same as the current CTS. You may get more weight and money as you add stuff to it though.

The next generation of the Northstar engine is rumored to be announced in Febuary, what if they add direct injection to the Northstar (if its possible)? That would drive the STS price up a bit, probibly having it only offered with V8's starting at just above the CTS and moving up market. They might even just replace the Northstar all together, its had a long run and certainly has paved the way for a super V8 replacement.

I like the looks of the front end for sure, rear-end is growing on me. Overall its the step up the CTS needs to be considered by the world community, the prevous version was laughed at by alot of the europeans, its biggest selling point was simply price, starting at 29,999 was its biggest advantage...which in a way if your were strickly intrested in performance, the GTO may have been an option with its price starting at 25,000 for the LS1/LS2 engine or shop around and get a fully loaded, 300HP mustang for 25 grand.

To tell ya the truth, I'm really more of a performance man myself, and am more intrested in the new Camaro blowing the doors off everything...really only reason I am fond of caddy's is cause they are the best daily drivers bar none.
http://www.gm.com/company/gm_exp_live/events/naias_2007/index_flash.html

Greenie, I like your point about the STS. There are rumors floating around that the general might can either the STS or the DTS because Cadillac doesn't need 2 $50k large sedans. I would tend to agree especially because the STS is available with AWD. Why does anybody want/need a V8 FWD car? I'm a little biased toward my RWD car now that I've driven it for a little over a year and a 1/4 and 2 winters. I notice no degradation in handling or control in the snow with my RS-A's vs. my old FWD V6 car. We (the forum) go round and round about how the CTS is bad/good in the winter. Take a look at Koz's post about his winter trip from Fairbanks to Anchorage. No trouble at all!

I'd like to see cadillac can the DTS and let the old stodgy tirds drive an AWD STS with either the 300hp direct injection 3.6VVT or a N* V8. (I think those could be the 2 engine options on the new STS)

With the new Sigma II platform that should debut in the next gen STS should have the ability to go long wheelbase satisfying those that want extra rear seat legroom.

A pumped up (expanded displacement) N* would be really nice if they could get up around 400hp without going forced induction. There could be 3 engine options for each car in the cadillac line. CTS: 3.6, 3.6FI, New V (6.2?). STS: 3.6FI, N*, New V (S/C N*?).

Let us not forget about the European BLS. The CTS just went bigger, you know the STS will have to go bigger for the next generation, that leaves a smaller car hole. The BLS would fit very nicely in that slot. A 2.8L, 3.6L(maybe 2.8LFI depending on fuel econ differences/cost), and 2.8L Turbo Diesel (or whatever comes in the euro BLS diesel... eldo, little help) would round out a very nice entry level car in 2010.

Car companies don't plan 6 months away, they plan YEARS away.

Just some thoughts.

video on the FAQ:

driving video
up close tour
interviews with GM spokespeople, Jim taylor, ed welburn, etc

http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/video/2008/


Reed

USB port is most certainly for charing the ipod (yes it does charge through USB)... perhaps a USB flash drive can be put in there to update the HDD nav...

Notice there is only ONE cd slot, not two.. Almost certainly means the nav is HDD based... The usb key woudl be handy to get stuff on there and perform updates... Could be a pipe dream, but other manufactures have this (audi has sd cards)


I like the look of the new CTS, but I like the more angular look of the CTS we have... Cadillac went strong on art&science and then pulled back a bit on the STS and now they are pulling back on the CTS... makes my car look better...

but I DO LOVE the look of the new car. It goes together very well with that awesome front end.

Reed

why the hell wont cadillac make the DTS rear wheels drive and then place it to compete with the Lexus LS, BMW 7, Mercedes S class, etc....but at a cheaper price level. This is what Lexus did and still does with its LS. The DTS CLEARLY based on its size belongs in the large luxury sedan market...make it RWD for God's sake!

FYI, this was in the autoweek article:

" Roughly 275,000 CTS owners exist worldwide, and Cadillac research says those owners are among the most satisfied in the market."

That is a DIRECT result of this forum and the FAQ...

Give me an 08 NOW GM (V please!)! HAHAHA

Reed

why the hell wont cadillac make the DTS rear wheels drive and then place it to compete with the Lexus LS, BMW 7, Mercedes S class, etc....but at a cheaper price level. This is what Lexus did and still does with its LS. The DTS CLEARLY based on its size belongs in the large luxury sedan market...make it RWD for God's sake!

DTS is going to be RWD in 2010, its part of the road map cadillac laid out with the showed the Sixteen showcar, can't remember the name of the platform (zeta or something maybe rings a bell).

Per one Detroit News columnist, the 2008 CTS is Best in Show:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070110/OPINION03/701100369

u know; i was gonna comment on how much lighter the 2008 looks than the earlier versions but after comments posted by others, i'm shocked?!? it's actually gonna be heavier! WTF.

Maybe they soundproof the car further for more comfort? Does anyone know why it's heavier? Does anyone have and compare the cubic feet on the 2008 in comparison to the current models?

Again, from the pictures, the 2008 appears to be a bit more compact...doesn't make sense

well we don't know what model the curb weight is for, if its for the AWD drive version that certainly would be the added weight.

Maybe they soundproof the car further for more comfort? Does anyone know why it's heavier? Does anyone have and compare the cubic feet on the 2008 in comparison to the current models?
Again, from the pictures, the 2008 appears to be a bit more compact...doesn't make sense

It's the same platform as the current CTS, but with the track pushed out 2" (notice the beautifully sculpted wheel arches this time). The new car is larger in all dimensions. Also, the new interior material wrappings (leather for example) adds weight.

true, but the better interior materials are heavier than the plastic we have..

Cadillac=Luxury = weight for things like sound deadening...

Reed

well we don't know what model the curb weight is for, if its for the AWD drive version that certainly would be the added weight.

The weight I listed was for the RWD 3.6L version. The AWD tips the scales at just over 4k.





RWD Curb Weights:

BMW 335i - 3593
Cadillac CTS - 3872
BMW M5 - 4012

Once again, it sits squarely in between the 3 and 5 series.

I just noticed from the Detail video on the FAQ that the steering wheel center is leather wrapped and not formed out of rubberized-plastic like was shown in many of the release photos. Still like the shape of our steering wheel center better, but the leather trimmings do a lot for the image of the new one. :D

Greenie, I like your point about the STS. There are rumors floating around that the general might can either the STS or the DTS because Cadillac doesn't need 2 $50k large sedans. I would tend to agree especially because the STS is available with AWD. Why does any