: tuning software



stbtt
12-13-06, 11:28 AM
I hate to beat a dead horse but i think if we can get the guys at hp tuner to make the software for the northstar they could make $$ i use the software alot and it is very nice stuff you can change almost everything in the cars computer,and i mean everything it also comes with a very nice dataloger and controls if we let them know that ther is a stong intrest i think that they will make it. this is good software for the price $500 is not much for what you get if we can get the cadillac guys and the bonneville guys with the gxp northstar cars doing the same thing i know that he make it.here is a link check it out there is a forum that might help to let our needs be known if every body will let them know

Click here: HPTuners.com >> GM, Ford, and Dodge Tuning (http://hptuners.com/)

stbtt
12-13-06, 06:31 PM
i looked at there web page and saw that they do have software for the 06-07 n* and started a thread on the forum for 98-04 if we can add to it they might get on it so come on guys this has a good chance for something that we need

danbuc
12-13-06, 07:39 PM
If they can do it for the '06 DTS, then it shouldn't take much to modify it down the model line. It still uses the same FWD L37/LD8-4T80E platform. The engine and trans are the same, it's just a matter of coding, and communication.

dp102288
12-13-06, 08:58 PM
Interesting...I wonder if there is some potential here.

codewize
12-13-06, 09:53 PM
Yeah that would be sweet. But i ask, what would we tune?

1997BlackETC
12-13-06, 10:06 PM
makes ya wonder if you got rid of the torque management, advanced the timing some, tweeked the fueling profiles and firmed up the shifts if it would make much of a difference on the northstar? I have a Chevy Colorado I used a hp tuner on and it did make a big difference in drive-ability. The truck has such better low end and pulls a lot better when passing on the highway, drives like a different vehicle after the Hp tune, so ya, lets write them emails.

CadillacSTS42005
12-14-06, 12:27 AM
hey
my "chip" with my other mods shot my 0-60 from 6.7 to 5.8
our cars can use some comp modding
ive tried hypertech everybody and no one seems to be interested...
thats how i found my prototype JET chip....
anyways what do i gotta do to show these guys...

MAKE IT I WILL BUY IT I ALREADY SPENT 900 ON A CHIP I WILL PAY TO GET MORE POWER!!!!

where on their site does it say they make it for 4.6 lacs?

stbtt
12-14-06, 02:36 AM
go to shop online , under the pic of the cd and cable go to supported vehicles list then go down to gm gen IV vehicles.if you got that good of a drop in time think of what custom tune can do,we can change cams,have head work done and go with forced induction and not need to go with a stand alone system after all they do support 2 and 3 bar map scaling.i use a lot of differant software to tune cars and this is the best i have got to use so far,i would love to get in to the n* vcm to see how much power can be had. to show these guys there is intrest email and go to the forum,register and post in the thread i started it is under the vcm suite feature requests you will see northstar software

CadillacSTS42005
12-14-06, 11:32 AM
or
you could email them the numerous threads ive posted about the pcm being hacked or tryin to hack it or hypertech will hack it
it would prove our plight alot faster and i doubt people will register they are lazy...

CadillacSTS42005
12-14-06, 11:37 AM
and fyi
the tuner would be helpful for 96+ software
the 96-99 Northstar was one engine and programming
the 00-05 Uses different computer different engine and different programming

Gearheaad43
12-14-06, 11:37 AM
I hope they don't stop at 98... Cuz I have a 97....... :banghead:

1997BlackETC
12-14-06, 11:38 AM
I emailed HP Tuner sales and they say there are not plans to make software for the Northstar or at least my 1997 Northstar.

CadillacSTS42005
12-14-06, 11:42 AM
i did it...
but notice how im the only one that has...
im telling you your best bet is to contact them directly and send them a few links to threads here where people have discussed other people making programmers...
hell search for threads started by me youll see a whole bunch
me speedy mark99sts and only a few others have not only wanted performance but have also actively sought out companies and tried to get them to make a programmer...

CadillacSTS42005
12-14-06, 11:43 AM
see told you man
its dead
the technology came to little to late
our cars are too old to build it
and too advanced at the time to hack it...

codewize
12-14-06, 11:57 AM
I'm in the 00 - 05 category. Maybe I have a chance?

stbtt
12-14-06, 12:15 PM
i have email them about 03 pcm and they told me not at this time, might be hopefull. just need to show that there is a market for it i have had several ppl ask me at my shop if i could tune these cars before i even had one so guys dont be lazy it only takes a min. to regester and post and they will listen hell 10 days ago they didnt even have anything for the n* and now they do

99Classillac
12-14-06, 10:10 PM
I tried to find a programmer. I even left a thread out there somewhere. The people I contacted said that they have 06 programs but for the older Northstars, they said that a different company was making the pcms back then and they are harder to work with. I left contact info in my thread so other could e-mail them to spark their interest in makin money.

Heres the link to my thread, in it will be the contact info for the tuners I e-mailed. Anybody else wanna try them out, they didn't respond to my last e-mail, guess they thought I was crazy because I kept askin about a 99 Deville.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/northstar-performance-technical-discussion/90840-possible-northstar-pcm-programmer.html

codewize
12-14-06, 10:52 PM
What about the in between 00 - 05 years?


I tried to find a programmer. I even left a thread out there somewhere. The people I contacted said that they have 06 programs but for the older Northstars, they said that a different company was making the pcms back then and they are harder to work with. I left contact info in my thread so other could e-mail them to spark their interest in makin money.

Heres the link to my thread, in it will be the contact info for the tuners I e-mailed. Anybody else wanna try them out, they didn't respond to my last e-mail, guess they thought I was crazy because I kept askin about a 99 Deville.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/northstar-performance-technical-discussion/90840-possible-northstar-pcm-programmer.html

stbtt
12-15-06, 04:05 PM
well i did a search on there forum sight and we are not the only ones that need this and there is intrest on making this hapen on one of the threads they said they are working on it but cant give a date on the ralease of it but that might have been on the 06-07 modles so we need more post on there besides mine and cadillacetc1997 post.i hate to sound bossy but i think this might be the only real chance to get anything like this for our cars. i am just trying to make this happen i have been able to program all of my cars that i have had but this one and its driving me crazy i can tell that there is all kinds of things holding power back on these cars like trq management and power enrichment delay on most gm vehicles power enrichment delay wont send the fuel table in wot untill after 3500 rpm these two things hold alot back i have seen a gain as high as 45 ft-lbs tq at the wheels on my dyno just taking those two thing out before playing with fuel and spark tables so come on guys do your part on making this hapen put up some post on there forum at least they will tell us if they are going to make it or not

CadillacSTS42005
12-15-06, 04:42 PM
dude believe me im all for it
and anyway i can i will help
i have done what i was asked thus far...

dp102288
12-15-06, 07:15 PM
ETC made a notable effort trying to get tuning done.

Its just disappointing that no one wants to make a product for our engines. :(

AlBundy
12-15-06, 08:01 PM
Done.

CadillacSTS42005
12-15-06, 09:09 PM
thanks for the vote DP
much appreciated~!

codewize
12-15-06, 11:35 PM
So what are we doing. Am I supposed to be posting a request for software somewhere? What's the deal here?

dp102288
12-16-06, 09:34 AM
:yeah: A good summary of what we (board members who are interested) can/should do would be very helpful.

stbtt
12-16-06, 01:06 PM
well they replyed and this is what he asked

can you give us a pcm breakdown of what computers you want supported? They can vary tremendosly from application to appliication, year to year & car to car. A link or info outright would be great. Obviously only 96+ OBD2 pcms

i told them sts ,sls and deville if someone knows or wants anything else you might want to tell them


pcm breakdown if you have or can get them...for instance 96-97 fbodies have 1 pcm, 98 only fbodies have another pcm, 99-02 fbodies have a different pcm, so 3 different pcm's in a 6 year span is alot of work. I would assume caddy's are similar in that they don't all have the same pcm from 96-04

if anybody knows the answer can you post it there or post it here and i will get it to them

codewize
12-16-06, 07:14 PM
Well also know that the DeVille and the DTS probably have different programs even for the same year. I don't know if that matters to them or now.

So really we want all flavor Sevilles, Eldos and DeVilles from 96 to present covered. Right?

dp102288
12-16-06, 08:57 PM
^^ I think so.

I think the largest difference in PCMs are the ones between the base models and the "T" models (ETC, STS, DTS). Maybe I am wrong, but I am pretty sure the "T" models at least have different programming for the engine.

CadillacSTS42005
12-18-06, 12:33 AM
umm
you didnt tell them Eldorado TCs....
that kinda angers me...

wkdivr
12-18-06, 09:40 AM
Try Wester's Garage.I e-mailed them for my 95 Eldorado, and they said they could do it, just need the 4 letter code from the memcal.


www.ecmprogrammer.com (http://www.ecmprogrammer.com)

CadillacSTS42005
12-18-06, 10:58 AM
95 is obd1
no one has hacked obd2
weve tried them

CadillacSTS42005
12-18-06, 11:44 AM
emailed westers and got the same response as last time

Probably could ! I'd just need it here, Jason.

Lyndon
www.ecmprogrammer.com
MAHA Chassis Dyno
1-888-WESTER-1


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason" <plzbreakthecycle@aol.com>
To: <nwester@eidnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: Northstar


> I know you have hacked the obd1 4.6 FWD Northstar
> A lot of people want a obd2 96-99 Programming
> I can provide numerous posts and threads from the Cadillac forum I am a
> part of that want one..
> Weve tired hypertech, jet, and a few others, all of them had said they
> have no plans to do this, basically because they CANT
> I had the only prototype JET ECM chip for my Northstar, I can send pics
> of it and it pushed my 0-60 from 6.7 to 5.8 so there is performance to
> be had
> I paid 900 for that chip because it was the ONLY one and no one else has
> yet to help out the obd2 northstar performance enthusiasts
> So can you hack it? Will you? I can guarantee at LEAST 100 people
> interested and 20 would would buy it in a second.
>
>






and just like last time im gonna say whos near canada with an obd2 lac, no one will answer and this thread will die AGAIN.....

dp102288
12-18-06, 12:45 PM
^^ Damn. Wish I was just close enough to drop even the SLS off. :(

CadillacSTS42005
12-20-06, 03:10 PM
note how quickly this one died....

stbtt
12-20-06, 04:08 PM
not dead just sleeping while we wait for more ppl to post on there forum,the more post and hits to this will give it a good chance its pretty sad that we are the only ppl trying to get this going when i know that alot of us want it


http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9364

AlBundy
12-20-06, 04:09 PM
I see whatcha mean.

CadillacSTS42005
12-20-06, 07:13 PM
i posted a break down
hope it helps....

MrEr1c
12-20-06, 07:46 PM
A lot of us want it but we also want definitive results and a price (preferably cheap).

And i have just seen this thread for the first time, so many people probably haven't even seen the thread.

stbtt
12-20-06, 09:14 PM
the price for one specific car is $499 it is $649 for as many cars that you want for that year modle the $649 is more for shops that use this for tuning customers cars.thats a good price for what you get, tuning software and data logger or scan tool what ever you want to call it go to there home page and check out what all you can do with this stuff

Raze
12-24-06, 12:42 PM
Hey,

I'm sorry I didn't post, was driving from GA to CT and visiting family along the way.

I would pay up to $1000 for a complete tune, or the ability to custom tune my N* (for that price I would hope I could get a handscanner or something) but would consider paying more.

I was unable to join the HPTuner forum, I signed up but never recieved the confirmation email so I can't post over there to help keep that topic alive!

stbtt
12-27-06, 02:12 PM
if anyone can get this started on any other cady forum do it and spread this around