it's a 93 deville 4.9L

the SSS system light is on, what is that ? i can't find any info in the owners manual....

thanks for your time

mike

Quoted from my G.M. Haynes Repair Manual 86 thru 93 DeVille (I have the same vehicle by the way)... "Some models are equipped with a speed version with a light marked SERVICE SSS. This speed sensitive suspension is an option on sport models. The CCR diagnostic system stores trouble codes that can be accessed at the test connector under the drivers side dash. Have a dealer service department or other qualified automotive repair facility extract the codes."

In laymans terms this means that the ride control computer doesn't like something about your suspension.
How does your Lac ride? If it's O.K. for you, don't worry about it. If it's getting too rough you may need to replace suspension components. Don't bother going to a Lac dealership. Check some of the other threads here about aftermarket parts and how the computer system needs to be worked around. I'll be having to do the same thing before long. My rides still O.K. but not nearly as "soft" as I'd like it. It's not a priority yet so it can wait until I have some more $$$.

I WAS INCORRECT ON MY ORIGINAL POST I EDITED AND FIXED THE TERMINAL LOCATIONS



I have the same problem with a Service SSS light also on my Cadillac. I work at a mechanic shop and have access to the all data mechanic aid program, and let me say its a big help. If you have a paper clip you can read the diagnostic code numbers and if you want I will look them up and give you the diagnostic procedure you can use. Take the paper clip and make it in the shape of a U. Then under the middle of your front passenger compartment under the radio by where your feet go you will see a large 12 pin connector. I know its on the LEFT side of the connector, TOWARD THE DRIVER'S SIDE, but i'm not sure if its the top or the bottom portion since its pretty much like this

......|......
.OOOOOO
.OOOOOO
|--------|
but you have to stick the paper clip in either these two holes (marked as x's)

......|...... <-- that is the top marker tab for connector position
.OOOXOX
.OOOOOO
|---------|
BE CAREFUL CAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONNECTOR ITS UPSIDE DOWN
SO POSITION THE PAPER ACCORDINGLY TO MATCH UP


Its pins A and C according to the ALL data Program if that helps
Now you turn the key to the on position (with out starting) all the dashboard lights will display including the service sss light. you know you picked the right pins when after the light goes out it begins to flash
it will flash once then pause a second and then flash twice together (this signifies a #12 code which means it is entering diagnostic) three times before displaying the actual trouble code. So you pretty much understand how you would read the codes after the three 12's that will flash out.. then you will get the codes listed. I got a code 24 on my car 2 quick flashes one second pause then 4 quick flashes. It will do each code three times before displaying the next. When it does the 12 code again that means it finished the code list and will start again.
email me at dzisblatt@si.rr.com and I would be glad to help in any way I can :)

Hmmm.....11 year old car.

The module is under the carpet under the driver seat. The easiest way is to remove the rear bolts and get access to the module.

Uhhh.....you can check the codes...and maybe do some light debugging. But besides that...if the car is riding ok. I would pass on throwing any money into it.

The current fix for the '93 Deville with a SSS lamp that is driving ok. IS either remove the bulb or cut the wire to the bulb.

Its a Cadillac...but its maybe worth $3000-4000 tops...its not worth new struts to fix this.

Logan
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Hey, dont get me wrong....I just sold my 12 year old Cadillac.

I think once you check the codes....chances are there will be some strut trouble codes. Ok...a replacement electronic strut is $600....EACH....from Cadillac...if still available. I dont think the electronic ones are even available.

There is a TSB on the electronic struts that allows a modification after non-electronic replacements struts are installed by Cadillac. It turns off the SSS lamp.

The modification is to cut the wire to the SSS bulb.

Still want those electronic ones?

Actually....heres the TSB....

Document #740707
Info -- Procedure to Disable Illumination of Service Indicator AFTER installing Passive Struts #00-03-11-001A
Applies to:

1989-1992 Cadillac Allante
1991-1993 Cadillac Eldorado, Seville
1991-1995 Cadillac DeVille
This bulletin is being revised to clarify when this bulletin may be used to turn the service suspension lamp off. Also, a step has been added to the 1991 Cadillac Eldorado and Seville repair. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 00-03-11-001 (Section 3 -- Suspension)

Some owners may bring their vehicles in for service with an illuminated service suspension light. The service suspension indicator lamp is telling the owner that the vehicle is due for strut/shock replacement, a maintenance item. The customer may elect to have passive struts installed in their vehicles due to the repair cost savings and/or parts availability. The installation of passive shock/struts will result in handling characteristics which are the equal to a like vehicle without the computer controlled ride, with all other components such as tires, tire pressure, springs, etc. being equal. The installation of (4) new passive struts will cause the continued illumination of the service suspension indicator. If desired by the customer, the service indicator may be disabled AFTER THE INSTALLATION OF THE (4) NEW PASSIVE STRUTS, using the appropriate service procedure listed below. This bulletin DOES NOT authorize this procedure unless (4) NEW PASSIVE STRUTS WERE INSTALLED ON THE VEHICLE.

The wiring harness going to each strut and or chock assembly should be cut and taped back to clean-up the appearance both under the hood and under the vehicle. In addition, each specific vehicle will require a modification as outlined below:

1989-1992 Allante with Speed Dependent Damping (SDD): Refer to the Service Manual page 8D-13 (1989) or 8D-14 (1990-1992). On these vehicles, adjust the BCM Override value "BS08". To do this, use the warmer/cooler button on the CCDIC to decrease the BCM override value "BS08" which is displayed when you enter the system by two(2). When the desired number is displayed on the CCDIC, it must be stored by holding the "Elapsed Time" and "Fuel Used" buttons until the new value flashes on and off. When it flashes on and off, the new value has been stored.
1991 Eldorado and Seville with Computer Command Ride (CCR): Refer to the Service Manual page 8D-12. Set the BCM override value BS09 to 0 by using the warmer and cooler buttons. Store this value by pressing the Econ button on the climate control panel and the Instant Econ button on the Fuel Data/Drivers Information Center for about five seconds. The new value will be stored even through the indicator does not flash. Remove the key from the ignition. Disconnect both battery cables from the battery. When both cables have been disconnected, touch the ends of the cables together and hold for five seconds. This will discharge the capacitors in the system and allow the system to perform properly when the battery cables are reconnected. Advise the customer they will have to reset all radio stations and clock.
1993 Eldorado and Seville with Speed Sensitive Suspension and 4.9L Engine Only: Refer to page 8A-43-6 in the 1992 Eldorado Seville Service Manual.
Cut Circuit 1020 (PINK)
Attach the IPC side of circuit 1020 to relay pin 87A
Attach the module side of circuit 1020 to relay pin 86
Run a ground wire to relay pin 30
Run a wire from a switched ignition (hot in run) source to relay pin 85.
1991-1993 DeVille with Computer Command Ride (CCR): Refer to the Service Manual, page 8A-43-0. Cut Circuit 1300 (Dark Green wire) at the CCR module (Pin C15) to disable the indicator lamp. Tape the wires back into the harness to prevent shorting to other components. 1994-1995 DeVille with Speed Sensitive Suspension (SSS) and 4.9L Engines ONLY: Refer to the 1994 Eldorado, Seville, DeVille Service Manual, page 8A-43-14:
Locate and cut circuit 370 (RED)
Attach the IPC side of circuit 370 to pin 87A of the relay
Attach the module side of circuit 370 to pin 86 of the relay
Run a ground wire to relay pin 30
Run a wire from a switched ignition (hot in run) source to relay pin 85.
The following part numbers are required to make the correction on the 1993 Eldorado/Seville and the 1994-1995 DeVille:
Part Number Description Qty
12193601 Relay 1
15306045 Connector 1

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.


Logan
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I'm a mechanic. I know how much they cost and that they are still available. Yes I still want to do it, maybe my car is a different case because of the mileage and condition it is in, but he says his car is mint and if he wants to make it a show car one day, keeping the car original is extremely important.

Where does it say '528hemi' wants it to be a show car? Maybe I'm missing it. Its a 11 year old car cut and dry.

On my car...I disabled the message with the relay. Didnt think twice about it.

Your choice...spend $600 per strut if you want too...

You will find better results for your money in a mutual fund.

sometimes people get passionate about their cars.

and there are hemi's now... but no coupe devilles :)