: Spun Caddy-V into Ditch - Help

11-30-06, 10:55 AM
I spun my 2005 cadillac cts-v into a ditch last night (horrible roads) and was able to get out but I cracked my front bumper and the wheel well guards are all out of place. Also, I see a silver metal box hanging from under the engine onto the ground, its hooked to some cables. Its located towards the front of the car on the drivers side. The car runs fine. This whole situation could have been alot worse.

Im waiting on getting it towed as we speak.

First question:
1. Whats the best way to go about replacing my front bumper and wheel wells? Dealership for everything? Can I get a pre-painted (black) bumper from the dealership? How much will this cost me?

2. What is this part hanging out from under my engine? What do you think happened, a bracket for this part snapped? I was going to have a regular shop look at this first, this is where im having the car towed. What do you think?

3. What else on the car should I have looked at after flying into a ditch?

Thanks for the help

11-30-06, 10:58 AM
ahha oh man, been there done that
the box is the PCM, carefully use a bungy-cord to secure it, do NOT let it get pulled on or messed up.
bumpers come unpainted. your body shop of choice can match your paint.

11-30-06, 10:59 AM
well, the little metal box is your pcm (brains of the car) be vawy vawy careful..or thats one expensive repair...as for the bumper and stuff, I'm not sure but I dont think you can buy that prepainted...wheel wells are an easy fix..its just plastic with x-mas trees holding them in...but you might as well have a body shop fix it all, dealer is going to rape you on cost...you can do all of it yourself, really not that hard.

11-30-06, 11:03 AM
the PCM.. why is it hanging out? what broke? expensive replacement?

11-30-06, 11:07 AM
its held up with a very thin fragile plastic box that you torpedoed....trust me i've done it twice

11-30-06, 11:08 AM
well chances are you didnt kill the PCM, unless it looks dented or something. and its only a $400 part. but you want to avoid having it ripped out :) that woudl be bad

11-30-06, 11:10 AM
is that pretty easy to bungee cord back in? how do I do it, I wont tow my car if I can do that

how do I know if the PCM is good? the car seems to run fine, so the PCM should be good?

how much is that box going to cost, how much should I pay to have that fixed?

11-30-06, 11:19 AM
no clue about the plastic box....the dealer/body shop can evaluate all the bad parts and order them all.
ya, if it runs the PCM should be fine.
bungee it? just crawl up under it and secure it lol! just dont let it drag. good luck.

11-30-06, 11:35 AM
should I just do all of this at the dealership?

11-30-06, 12:37 PM
None of this covered by your insurance? Or are you trying to avoid an insurance claim?

11-30-06, 01:13 PM
None of this covered by your insurance? Or are you trying to avoid an insurance claim?Could it be ... :alchi: .

Been there, done that.

11-30-06, 01:31 PM
Did the po-po's show up? When I was 18 I got my parents car stuck in a ditch on some deserted country road in the middle of the night in NJ a long time ago. I got lucky that someone came by with a large pickup (I guess thats more common than not out there though) and pulled the GTI out. It needed a new alignment and a wash.

Dont forget to check your alignment too. Our tires cost enough that you dont want to sleep on that.

11-30-06, 02:34 PM
Wasn't that a deer I seen darting out in front of you? That was an incredible manuver you made to avoid hitting that deer and potentially do way more damage to the V! :highfive:

11-30-06, 04:15 PM
how old are you anyways...y'know just the whole "kid" part in your name...what like 16?

11-30-06, 04:48 PM
Wasn't that a deer I seen darting out in front of you? That was an incredible manuver you made to avoid hitting that deer and potentially do way more damage to the V! :highfive:

Hahah you're good. :)

11-30-06, 05:45 PM
Glad you are OK. BTW, did stability control try to help?

11-30-06, 06:16 PM
v-ape: po-po's did not show up.

nikon: just turned 22

pillboy: not really sure

My V is still the apartment complex I left it in last night, the roads are too bad for me to go get it and it just keeps hailing little tiny balls (has been all day), I would just wreck it again. I hope my car is ok, it sucks just leaving it where I have it. The shitty thing is, its supposed to snow even harder tonight and tomorrow. Im not sure what to do.

11-30-06, 07:11 PM
....trust me i've done it twice


11-30-06, 07:13 PM

Ask him how long in between :yup:

12-01-06, 06:37 PM
Ask him how long in between :yup:

OK. :thumbsup:

"Urby, how long in between??" :food-snacking:

12-01-06, 09:24 PM
glad urby is here to field this one...I'd have no clue how to answer :canttalk:


12-02-06, 01:37 AM
I spun my 2005 cadillac cts-v into a ditch last night (horrible roads) ......................

This is my personal favorite line. First it is "I"......... then it is (horrible roads)........ :bigroll:

I have seen way to many people that drive or try to drive above their ability. I have even done it a time or to but in all the bad situations "I" new I screwed up and said so.

12-02-06, 11:14 PM
should I just do all of this at the dealership?

Since I haven't seen any reply to your questions I thought I would offer my thoughts. If money is no object by all means have a dealership fix your car. But, if I were you, I would save the money for a track day or three and do the repairs myself. I am assuming when you say the front bumper you are talking about the front cover (as listed in Cadillac parts catalog). You can buy those pre-painted if I am reading the catalog correctly for just over $500.00 at list price. You can usually get a deal if you ask. The wheel wells are about $40 each or $80 per side. Unless of course you have blown thru a few sets then they are cheaper. lol 2nd or 2nd and 1/2 set discounts! If you are at all mechanical everything is easy to replace. A 2nd set of hands helps with bumper but not completely necessary.

A couple jack stands, a floor jack, size 10 or 1/2" wrench (pretty sure its one of those two sizes) flat screw driver and pliers to pull out the plastic dudahs holding it together is all you should need to replace front cover. As far as the PCM box goes, get a good light and take a look. Almost everything is fixable.

Good luck...
I hope everything turns out ok for you.

12-05-06, 01:12 PM
where do I get this cadillac parts catalog?

Is it really that easy to replace the front bumper cover? Does the grill have to be replaced?

12-06-06, 01:02 AM



12-06-06, 04:00 PM
i called the caddy dealership and they said I couldn't order factory parts pre-painted... he made it sound like I couldn't order factory parts at all myself...

anyone know anything more about this?

btw thanks for that cts-v documentation site, alot of good stuff there

12-07-06, 07:18 AM
The factory parts come primed and are not painted. They will require paint matching to your vehicle's paint code.

If your dealer insists that you are not able to order factory parts yourself, he is tugging your balls. Basically, he wants to leave you no option but to order through them at a ridiculously inflated price.