: Most unreliable car thread, post up what you had!!



caddeville
11-18-06, 01:10 AM
What was the worst and most troublesome car you've ever had?

nigelb
11-18-06, 07:30 AM
in 1991 i bought a rover SD1 with a straight 6 motor in it. the car was less than 6 years old.
http://www.ajovalo.net/Historia/images/X83R2000.jpg
i got through 3 replacement engines in less than 6 months, it got to the point where the car would break down before the end of my street.

BIG ERN
11-18-06, 07:41 AM
Brand new 1987 Ford Escort biggest piece of shit i ever owned, 5 timing belts during the first 100,000 miles 3 starters, 3 water pumps etc.

STEVEHO
11-18-06, 08:59 AM
1968 Plymouth Roadrunner, brand new. Engine would shut off without notice.Great fun when it happens in the fast lane on I45 in Houston. The dealer outlasted me,as I could no longer afford to leave the car and miss work.They never found anything and Chrysler Corp. couldn't care less. No lemon laws in 68. My very last Mopar.

ted tcb
11-18-06, 09:14 AM
1971 Capri, made in Germany with a 6cyl,dual exhaust, POS.
I got it at 6yrs old, and it kept me in the poor house for 6 months.
Every switch would burn your hands once the car heated up, and
the body was completely rusted through.

A close 2nd was a 1978 Datsun F10 ... Nissan's 1st fwd effort.
Car&Driver voted it one of their 10 top ugliest cars of all time.
Engine self destructed, 5spd tranny would lock in gear, body rusted out,
etc.

FrankT
11-18-06, 09:22 AM
1968 Plymouth Roadrunner, brand new. Engine would shut off without notice.Great fun when it happens in the fast lane on I45 in Houston. The dealer outlasted me,as I could no longer afford to leave the car and miss work.They never found anything and Chrysler Corp. couldn't care less. No lemon laws in 68. My very last Mopar.

Wow, that car is classic today. What power plant were you running?
I am surprised that nothing was ever found, back then the ignition and fuel systems were very simple. No computers, massive wiring harnesses, and multiple relays.. .
I bought a brand new 72 charger SE off the show room floor at the end of year blowout sale. It's white with a full black top and black interior. I still have it stored in my garage it has 80k on the clock. The only problems I’ve had with the car is alternators and rear axle shaft bearings.
Woo me bad, I didn’t mean to turn this thread into the most reliable car you ever owned!
Frank T

ewill3rd
11-18-06, 10:14 AM
My folks had a 1982 Buick Regal, even though it was a GM car and fairly nice when it was running, it was the most troublesome piece of garbage that anyone in my family owned.
When I started as a mechanic years ago I had to work on that car all the time. It did get about 180,000 miles on it but man what a roach that thing was. I could tell you stories that would curl your hair about that pile of dung.

xxpinballxx
11-18-06, 10:32 AM
it really wasn't my daily driver or anything but it was a 65 baby blue corvair. Looked perfect but was constantly trying my patience

Dadillac
11-18-06, 11:08 AM
A 1982 Buick Riviera. Bought it for $2200 back in 1992. It had the 4.1 liter 6 cylinder. I owned it (or it owned me) for three months. In that three months, I put another $3000 into it, and it still ran like shit. Body and interior were mint. Drivetrain was total crap. That is one car that I wished I had never owned.

Don

Rolex
11-18-06, 11:27 AM
1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee.

V8, leather, AWD, every bell and whistle.

Over 30 days spent in the shop during the
first year of ownership. New front and
rear differentials, tranny work, & more tranny
work. Even with all that, the drivetrain
never ran without howling or popping.
This is the reason I personally swore off
Dodge Chrysler Jeep products.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-18-06, 12:12 PM
My father had an '89 Taurus LX wagon with the 3.8V6. Worst car he's ever owned and he's 49. After that car, he swore off Ford products forever.

I have a friend with a '91 Talon TSi AWD. In the last year, he's had a new clutch installed, a new tranny after his 2nd gear went out. He had a problem with the oil filter randomly coming off, two different alternators, intake gaskets. The car drove him to insanity but he never got rid of it because it's a turbo.

CadillacGurl
11-18-06, 12:20 PM
Mom had a 99 Volvo AWD V70 XC Special Edition
Had a problem every other week
Sensors were always breaking
I'm trying to remember what light always came on... it had to do something with the engine not reading the sensors which fried them??

caddydaddy
11-18-06, 12:29 PM
My 2000 STS has been the most problematic car I've ever had! It has had at LEAST $15,000 in repairs done. Luckily for me, all were covered either by the factory warranty, or the aftermarket extended warranty I bought. I still have 14k miles left on the warranty, so I hope all that has wanted to fail will do so before then!

JRau
11-18-06, 03:53 PM
Bought a 1983 Chevrolet Malibu station wagon used. Lots of electrical issues kept it from ever running smoothly. Dealer tried to fix it, but they were incompetent and rather unwilling to help me. Kept it less than a year, as I recall.

JRau in central Iowa

BLACK_CTSV
11-18-06, 04:26 PM
I have a friend with a '91 Talon TSi AWD. In the last year, he's had a new clutch installed, a new tranny after his 2nd gear went out. He had a problem with the oil filter randomly coming off, two different alternators, intake gaskets. The car drove him to insanity but he never got rid of it because it's a turbo.


I had a '90 Talon TSi, as well. Fun car, but it had all kinds of drivetrain issues.

However, the most unreliable car I had [and my first car] was a '79 Scirocco. I loved it, but couldn't afford to maintain it. It left me stranded dozens of times. Shift linkage, clutch cable, CV joints, cracked head, coolant leaks, strut tower failed, etc., etc., etc...

Sure was fun to drive, though.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-18-06, 04:29 PM
I had a '90 Talon TSi, as well. Fun car, but it had all kinds of drivetrain issues.

Oh yeah, they're fun to drive, no doubt. I drove a '97 TSi AWD at work the other day, even though I never got it over 20, I could still tell it would be fun to drive. Feeling that turbo kick in is so cool! Whoooooosh.....psssssh!

dp102288
11-18-06, 10:25 PM
Our dying 1990 Ford Ranger XLT 2.9L V6 5 speed (manual) Regular Cab. When we bought it, (early September) it ran great. Now the flywheel is bad. How the hell does a flywheel go bad if you don constantly pick the wrong gear? And it got worse, it was nothing sudden.

The only problem with it is it won't start by turning a key. You have to push it to get the wheels moving, clutch out fast to turn the engine. The starter in it is the 3rd one since we bought it. We are probably junking it this by the end of this month.

codewize
11-19-06, 12:24 AM
1985 Lincoln Continental Givenchy Edition. 302 POS BIG POS

Jesda
11-19-06, 12:31 AM
Two 1988 Mazda 929s.

The first one had a radiator with a nice big crack in it. I just kept topping it off. Finally, the oil pan rusted out and stupid me, I kept driving! Blew a cloud of smoke covering four lanes, threw a rod.

The second one I owned had intermittent ignition problems, tons of oil leaks (one quart per one-way 10-mile commute), and blew a head gasket. I replaced the HG but the motor was toast. I drove it on five cylinders for about six months and sold it to a used dealer. The radiator also cracked, eventually.

On both, the factory radio was a POS. I'd have to yank it out and shake it or punch it to get it to come back on.

I loved the hell out of both cars; they were a blast to drive and chock full of character. You can bet that I'd buy another one if the price was right!

Phantom&RedGoat2004
11-19-06, 02:29 AM
Y'all are gonna be mad...:mob: My first Cadillac was the most unreliable car I've ever owned. My '76 Brougham was beautiful inside and out. She had fully functional gadgets, with the exeption that the engine would only work when it felt like it, and got BAAD gas mileage. When it was chill outside I would have to warm it up for 20 minutes. When it was cold, it wouldn't start. She needed a head gasket, so I pulled the heads, and I saw the heads were wore out, so I fixed the heads. Then I found out that my rings were bad. I threw a rod on Christmas eve and gave it away. The Titanic was a sinking ship, and she robbed this poor garage-boy of his last dollar on Christmas eve. :rant2:

STEVEHO
11-19-06, 08:58 AM
Yes FrankT it would be worth a lot today. It was a 383 with torqueflite. I actually spent a week of vacation taking apart various wiring harnesses, trying to find the problem.New ignition switch, coil etc.etc.Never could get it to happen on demand.It almost killed me when it left me with a dead engine upon entering a freeway.Complaints to Chrysler were treated as if I was an annoyance.Traded it in on a 70 VW.

GEORGEC
11-19-06, 05:19 PM
Over the past 49 years I have owned somewhere around 25 vehicles, the vast majority being GM, and would not call any unreliable. The closest to being a dog that I had was a 1960 Fiat OSCA. It's problems were really caused by it's first owner being too hard on it. My major problem was that not enough were imported into this country (around 200) and getting parts was the issue. I took it in for a major overhaul and 6 weeks later was still waiting for the parts from Italy. Traded it as it was for a new Triumph TR-4.

Very, very seldom took one into the shop. The tailgate window stuck open on my 1973 Wagon at the same time a storm was coming and I was working on the garage doors and could not put the wagon in the garage. The dealer was about a mile away and it was still under warranty anyway. One vehicle had a head gasket fail. 1957 Buick lost a rear end. 1948 Chevy lost a timing gear when it was 10 years old. My father had bought that car new. My 2005 Cadillac had to have a rearview mirror replaced.

That is about all of the problems that I can think of.

G

gscott73
11-19-06, 05:22 PM
One of the reasons I frequent this web site is my 91 Deville, which I am about ready to push over a cliff. Bought the one-owner 95000 mile car in September. Since then I have had to overhaul the heater core, the A/C evaporator, (really fun stuff for a DIY mechanic) both front struts ( one just broke out of the blue) entire front brake system (locked up caliper chewed up rotor). Even though the wonderful digital fuel gauge showed 5 gallons, the car ran out of gas, and last week, one of the rear brake lines rusted through. After replacing both rear lines, bleeding the system caused the front right line to check out as well. I've heard a lot of horor stories about this vintage caddy, and I'm beginning to believe them all!

dp102288
11-19-06, 09:31 PM
^^ hey but you learned a lot! :getaway:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-19-06, 10:29 PM
One of the reasons I frequent this web site is my 91 Deville, which I am about ready to push over a cliff. Bought the one-owner 95000 mile car in September. Since then I have had to overhaul the heater core, the A/C evaporator, (really fun stuff for a DIY mechanic) both front struts ( one just broke out of the blue) entire front brake system (locked up caliper chewed up rotor). Even though the wonderful digital fuel gauge showed 5 gallons, the car ran out of gas, and last week, one of the rear brake lines rusted through. After replacing both rear lines, bleeding the system caused the front right line to check out as well. I've heard a lot of horor stories about this vintage caddy, and I'm beginning to believe them all!

Sounds like you got a lemon. Don't let it turn you off to Cadillacs. My '92 Sedan deVille has been very reliable, and I bought it at 100k miles. Sounds like the previous owner neglected or abused it.

Cadboy425
11-19-06, 11:10 PM
My 2005 Caddy SRX is the worst car i've had. There is always something wrong with it electrically. From a radio/info center that blanks out at times, turn signals that don't work sometimes and a sunroof that continues to squeak and creek constantly despite being to the dealer 4 times to repair the noise keeps coming back. I'm counting down the months till this lease is up.

B Hoth
11-19-06, 11:10 PM
1988 Chevy Baretta GT, was delivered to me with 38 miles on the odometer and 2 bad CV joints. Should have seen the writing on the wall. Paid $11,500 and it had every option except the pop up sun roof. It had 8 recalls, 7 times in for bad CV Joints and was into the dealer for various fixes 25 times. I did manage to put 157,000 miles on it. All total put $9,700 BACK INTO IT after 8 years.It still looked near as good as when I bought it, when I sold it to a retired Cadillac assembly tech from Detroit looking for a car to tinker with. He gave me $1,650, the dealer wanted to give me $300. Notice how you haven't seen virtually zero of these left on the road.

:alchi:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-19-06, 11:32 PM
My dad almost bought a '89 Corsica back in 1994. Glad he didn't, those are very ugly, cheap cars. Instead, he bought an '86 Celebrity with the Iron Duke and loved it.

caddeville
11-20-06, 02:27 AM
my dads 1985 deville FWD (before the 87) was the worst hes ever owned. the engine has been rebuild 5 times and still didn't run. we never did find out what the problem was, he parked it and got his 87 deville which was the best he's ever owned. Nice cars so far guys!:thumbsup:

davesdeville
11-20-06, 03:39 AM
My most unreliable car eh? I haven't had any particularly unreliable cars. 78 Brougham died at what I estimate at 270, maybe 370k, it still ran but had some serious lower end knock. 75 Deville hasn't had any problems except when I drove into a 100lb rock at 50mph, after a new radiator it's running strong.

My old 86 Dodge Omni lost the clutch at around 150k, but I only had it for maybe 6k of that. My 95 ETC has been good to me, has only left me stranded twice over the course of 1.5 years. My 94 Mark's alternator is the only notable problem I've had, I still made it home.

I just bought an ugly 89 Lincoln Mark VII, 5.0 HO. I've owned it for a day and it already refuses to start. But I don't blame it, it's obviously been poorly maintained. And hell I only paid $230 for it, so if it comes down to it I can make my money back selling the motor alone..


My dad almost bought a '89 Corsica back in 1994. Glad he didn't, those are very ugly, cheap cars. Instead, he bought an '86 Celebrity with the Iron Duke and loved it.

Bah. My friend owned a Corsica with either 170k or 270k on the original 3.1v6, that little bastard kicked ass and survived everything we threw at it and I still see it around town now and again. My other friend's sister owned a Celebrity with the 2.8, it finally bit the dust at 210k, but that was far worse of a car than the Corsica.

gscott73
11-20-06, 11:42 AM
I guess the main reason I'm highly disappointed with my 91 Deville is that I have used 77-79 Caddys for daily drivers for years and found them to be highly reliable and relatively easy to work on. The engineering that went in to this car is rather sadistic. Seems like no matter what you have to do to the car, step one is either Remove Engine or Drop Cradle or both. I forgot to mention that the Passkey system went haywire on me as well. Thanks to the combined brain power on this site, that was a 20 cent fix but it still is something I have not had happen on any other GM car I've owned with the same setup. Give me a big old RWD cast iron engine land yacht anytime. My 79 Sedan Deville don't need no stinkin tablets to keep the engine from going suicidal! Now, every time I drive over a bump with the 91, I keep waiting for the rear cradle bolts to let go and break the steering shaft. I guess this is another rather endearing trait these cars have aquired in old age. This is the last one I'll own.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-20-06, 12:03 PM
I guess the main reason I'm highly disappointed with my 91 Deville is that I have used 77-79 Caddys for daily drivers for years and found them to be highly reliable and relatively easy to work on. Give me a big old RWD cast iron engine land yacht anytime. My 79 Sedan Deville don't need no stinkin tablets to keep the engine from going suicidal!

Well that makes sense. My father is the same way, relatively speaking. He doesn't like how high maintenance (relatively speaking) the new Cadillacs are. Between my '92 deVille and the '95 Roadmaster I had before the deVille, he liked working on the Roadmaster a lot more! The 350 was easier to work on, easier to access things under the hood (even if it was the LT1) and basically whatever else you can think of. It's just so much more typical and simple to work on. He probably would like to work on a '79 Cadillac more, but my parents would never let me get one because of the percieved terrible fuel economy..and the lack of ABS/Airbags. But they're wierd about that...

Wiseguy2
11-21-06, 12:44 AM
I can think of a few...

99 Jaguar XJR with the crapola Nikasil V8. At 52k miles and 49 months of age the engine was absolutely toast. No compression. Even though I had been complaining about hard starting and lack of power when UNDER warranty, Jaguar's response was "Sorry, your warranty Expired, $15,000 please".

My '97 740iL has been a real treat too. It gets hungry and eats window regulators. Wait, let me rephrase that, it breaks the little 50c plastic pulleys in the regulators (Which, of course, cannot be bought separately) and then it needs new $200 regulators all the time. It eats radiators, expansion tanks, suspension components, etc. It's going to need a new instrument cluster for the 3rd or 4th time. For some stupid reason I've had it for 10 years now.

Although at one point my parents BOTH had Diesel Cadillacs. My father had a 79 Seville.. black/black. Nice car, except for eating fan belts it was a pretty reliable car. My mother had an '80 Sedan DeVille that simply refused to run. I remember Towne Cadillac loaning her a brand new 82 with the 4100 in it when they first came out.. 20 miles after picking it up from the dealer (DeVille was in for its' weekly no-start condition) the engine seized.

Car was nice when it ran tho.

caddeville
11-21-06, 12:59 AM
wow, the engine seized? Thats intense, how'd that go after?

Wiseguy2
11-21-06, 01:05 AM
wow, the engine seized? Thats intense, how'd that go after?

Don't remember.. If memory serves I was about 6years old. This happened on the drive back from their service department. The car was one of their demos that they loaned us while her car was being repaired.

I remember it was towed to the dealer and a few days later she traded the DeVille in on a leftover 1981 BMW 528i.

85Godfather
11-26-06, 01:45 PM
I would have to say my 2000 VW New Beetle Turbo. Biggest pile ever. went through two brake sensors, every exterior light bulb replaced twice, radio buttons all broke, temp gauge went out, two O2 sensors, EPC light was on constantly , turbo would onl;y work once in a great while, the horn broke, keyless entry stopped working....and Im sure there are more things that I cant remember any more. All of this happened before the car had even 80K on it, and of course the nearest VW dealer was 300 miles away and I was in college so all I could afford was to slowly repair it myself when I found extra money. Needless to say it was parked in the apartment lot most the time forgotten about and I drove an '86 Merc Topaz, which was a much better car mechanically. Then a hail storm hit, the VW got $2500 damage and my parents offered to buy it from me. They dropped a little over $5000 into it and now it seemes okay and they're saving it for my younger sister to drive. I would NEVER, ever recommend a new beetle to anyone.

hardrockcamaro@mac.c
11-26-06, 04:11 PM
1997 BMW 323i
Brand new company car.

I put 42,000 miles on it in 2 years and in that time:

1) Oil light would come on every 3,000 miles as it had consumed it all.
2) The auto transmission once died leaving me stranded at a superstore carpark
3) The climate control never worked from day one. I turned it on, heard a bang and that was the end of that.
4) New drivers side electric window regulator
5) new sunroof motor, original ammed and started smoking so I had to unplug it
6) Rear subframe bush replaced
7) Brakes kept siezing, would happen at random to differnet corners of the car. Eventually all callipers were replaced in turn.
8) Engine would occasionally randomly start hesitating, new coils and o2 sensors failed to solve it

That's about all I can remember off hand.
All the other cars in the company fleet were also BMW's and all had a long list of problems.

Friends today refuse to listen to me about not buying BMWs and after a few months are asking my advice on whatever problem their POS has most recently presented...

77CDV
11-26-06, 05:32 PM
I've never had a bad car. But then, I've always had Cadillacs! :) My dad, on the other hand, couldn't pick a reliable car to save his soul, bless him. Mom wanted a 68 Vista Cruiser but no, Dad bought (Lord help us) an AMC Rebel. Everything went wrong with that car, including the headliner (one piece of black-painted cardboard) coming unglued and falling on Dad's head while he was driving on the freeway!

Then he picked up a 78 Chevette, which enjoyed shorting out just for fun. Finally fried it's entire electrical system while he was driving home on the freeway. At night. In the rain. In the fast lane.

So then he bought an 81 Plymouth Horizon, which was in the shop within 36 hours of his buying it and never missed a week back the dealer thereafter (I suspect it was simply homesick). As I recall, it enjoyed eating transmissions, although master cylinders would do in a pinch. When I was learning to drive, I got to drive it a couple time (when I couldn't weasle the Caddy out of Mom), and remember thinking how much it reminded me of the Autopia cars at Disneyland.

Then he bought (why? why?) an 87 Suzuki Samurai, claiming that he missed the Jeep he learned to drive on in the Korean War. It ran OK, but leaked like a sieve when it rained. After that, Mom insisted that I go with him whenever he was buying a new car and pick it out myself.

gdwriter
11-26-06, 11:59 PM
Damn, Craig, that story made me laugh out loud. I don't blame your mother one bit. A friend of mine has similarly awful taste in cars. Not all of them were lemons; they were just horrible choices. I remember calling his Geo Metro the deathtrap.

You can badmouth somebody all you want and get away with it as long as you add "bless his (her) heart." My Southern Baptist Texas upbringing, I think (though I'm now a Lutheran Oregonian).

Fleet
11-27-06, 02:25 AM
I haven't owned many cars. Only these:
'66 Dodge Dart GT
'69 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
'70 Cadillac Sedan de Ville
'71 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
'76 Cadillac Fleetwood 75 Limo
'95 Lincoln Town Car Signature

All of them were reliable; the one I had the most problems with was the '71 Fleetwood Brougham.

dp102288
11-27-06, 10:40 AM
^^ Damn nice car lineup! 3 fleetwoods, and I never even drove one! :crying: