: Favorite modern day muscle cars??



I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-06-06, 12:00 AM
Just wondering, what are your favorite muscle cars made after 1980?

Me, it's the 1987-92 Trans Am GTA. Especially the 1992 with the 5.7 TPI (NOT THE 305 TPI!) Four speed automatic.....mmmm yeah...

gary88
11-06-06, 12:16 AM
I've always been a fan of the LS1 WS6 Trans-Am. It just yells "badass". 0-60 in 5.0, and a 13.5 1/4 mile time stock. I want to have one someday and build the crap out of it.

http://ws6transam.tripod.com/images/98ta05.JPG

The one thing I don't like about it is the "shift skip" mechanism the Trans-Ams and Camaros have, where it forces you to shift directly from first to fourth, if the engine isn't revved high enough in first gear.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-06-06, 12:26 AM
Yeah, GM did that to meet CAFE regulations or something like that, Corvettes have it too, it's really annoying.

Oh well, doesn't matter though, I'd never buy a stick Firebird. Chad loves Autos!

CadillacSTS42005
11-06-06, 12:39 AM
no way
1989 TTA 3.8 GN motor
0-60 4.6 seconds faster than the LS1s!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-06-06, 12:59 AM
There's one of those on ebay right now..I think it's got like 4700 miles on it.. really really nice car.

CadillacSTS42005
11-06-06, 01:00 AM
they go for 19-25 K all day long

davesdeville
11-06-06, 02:40 AM
Anything with an LS1, LT1 or turbo 3.8, and 03-04 Cobras.

Jesda
11-06-06, 02:42 AM
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90Brougham350
11-06-06, 08:27 AM
The GNX is bad-ass! Mid-80's Montes I like as well. First gen Mark VIII's will be a collector some day.

gdwriter
11-06-06, 01:39 PM
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the much maligned—unfairly I believe—04-06 Pontiac GTO. I thought it looked sharp, certainly better than the boy-racer, plastic-clad Pontiacs of recent history. Test-drove an 04; the salesman let me open it up a little—not too much unfortunately—and it could go. Nice, classy-looking interior. I predict these will be collectable in the future.

http://www.motordesktop.com/wallpaper/sportscars/Pontiac%20GTO%202004%20-%201024x768.jpg

ChicagoCTS32
11-06-06, 02:01 PM
The GTO is a sweet ride... too bad it looks like a cavalier that someone hooked a tow hook on and pulled the nose out. I also drove an 04 and it was fantastic. Only problem is that it was built on the Cadillac CATERA platform. If it was on the Sigma (CTS,STS) platform, it would have been SWEET... but more expensive.

CadillacGurl
11-06-06, 02:20 PM
1983 Trans Am Daytona Pace Car Edition :D

I loooove to do burnouts:bouncy: Hence below...

Elvis
11-06-06, 02:22 PM
I don't know about the past 25 years. So much has been conforming to fads. We look back at some really good cars and call them "mullet mobiles."

As far as what's on the market today, I really like the new Mustang, and I've grown to love the Charger even though I hated it at first. I still wouldn't buy one, just because it's a Dodge. I'm sure I'll love the new Camaro too.

EcSTSatic
11-06-06, 02:24 PM
So what defines a "muscle car"? HP? cubic inches? Too many performance cars look like Hondas to me. I like the retro look. At least it's a change from the cookie cutter designs.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-06-06, 03:55 PM
1983 Trans Am Daytona Pace Car Edition :D

I loooove to do burnouts:bouncy: Hence below...


I love the rims on those '80s Firebirds. "High tech" I think they were called..either way, I love 'em!

JRau
11-06-06, 04:06 PM
2005 - 2007 Ford Mustang GT or 2007 Ford Shelby GT500. I prefer convertibles. :thumbsup:

JRau in central Iowa

HITMONEY
11-06-06, 06:17 PM
I remember as a teenager of the 80's dreaming and drooling over one day having a Monte Carlo SS.

Hell, I wouldn't mind having one of these today.


http://www.wins1.com/'87%20Monte%20SS%20Black/87%20Monte%20SS%20F.JPG

http://www.dumpit.org/grimreaper/images/090702-wheels/rear-rt.JPG

http://www.montecarloss.com/images/Toth88SS1.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-06-06, 06:53 PM
Back before I really got into Cadillacs, I dreamed about owning an '80s G Body, namely the 442 or a Monte Carlo SS. They weren't as fast as the Trans Ams, which my parents said no to, but they weren't as expensive to insure and they had more power options, and were still pretty quick for their time.

I'd still like to have a Hurst Olds/ 442...
http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/a/08/d9/5a/cd_4.JPG
Mmmmmmm....Oldsmobile.....

Slywun
11-06-06, 08:29 PM
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Yes! Yes! Yes!

Also for the 80's (a closet fan of the Iroc Z)
For the 90's definitely the ZR-1, Impala SS. Although the Syclone and Typhoon were interesting...
For 2000+ the ZO6, and of course any V.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-06-06, 09:04 PM
A Syclone would make for a very interesting drive!

I'd love to have one of the first gen Lightnings, the ones with the HO 351. Even though they werent as fast as the 2nd gen Lightnings, I'd rather have one because they're sooo much cooler looking and rare too!

dp102288
11-07-06, 10:43 AM
I really love the 05-06 GTOs (04 only had 350hp). Cheap and full of power. I loved the shape too for some reason. Seemed too small for such a powerful car.

The early 80's Monte Carlos were nice too. I have always love the Firebirds and Camaros.

07 DTS
11-07-06, 11:19 AM
Turn right into the Chevy dealers lot, and buy yourself that 2007 Corvette
Z06. It is hard to argue with that LS7 sitting under the hood. May not be a muscle car in the truest sense, but it is close enough for me.

---07 DTS---

Elvis
11-07-06, 01:14 PM
http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/a/08/d9/5a/cd_4.JPG
Mmmmmmm....Oldsmobile.....

That makes me really miss my Cutlass. It was just a v6 with no options, but it was comfortable, smooth-riding, and got around 18 mpg. I never appreciated it when I had it. They were really common at the time.

RobertCTS
11-07-06, 01:58 PM
I had a 426 CI Road Runner. Fast ride!

http://usera.imagecave.com/BobsWork/68roadrunnerCC2.jpg

Florian
11-07-06, 02:08 PM
tough calls...

GNX is right there, also the Syclone/Typhoon...The V is great luxo-muscle. Im biased I guess.


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xxpinballxx
11-07-06, 11:59 PM
DEfinitely the mid 80's SS. My buddy bought a 86 silver SS with an LS6 crammed into it...would burn the tires until he let off pretty much! Couldn't get it plated here in ohio so he sold it. I was so pissed he didnt tell me. The price............
12,000! It was mint too...not a scracth dent or ding. The engine looked like it was on steroids but also like it was meant to be there. God I miss that car.

RobertCTS
11-08-06, 07:33 AM
DEfinitely the mid 80's SS. My buddy bought a 86 silver SS with an LS6 crammed into it...would burn the tires until he let off pretty much! Couldn't get it plated here in ohio so he sold it. I was so pissed he didnt tell me. The price............
12,000! It was mint too...not a scracth dent or ding. The engine looked like it was on steroids but also like it was meant to be there. God I miss that car.

I think a lot of us have sold cars we wished we had back.:crybaby:

dp102288
11-08-06, 11:08 AM
Damn, Robert said it, but I never realized it.

90Brougham350
11-08-06, 11:13 AM
So what defines a "muscle car"? HP? cubic inches? Too many performance cars look like Hondas to me. I like the retro look. At least it's a change from the cookie cutter designs.

I guess since the GTO was the first "muscle car" a muscle car would be a version of regular production vehicle with a larger / more powerful engine and better suspension and brakes.

BCs71
11-08-06, 03:07 PM
I guess since the GTO was the first "muscle car" a muscle car would be a version of regular production vehicle with a larger / more powerful engine and better suspension and brakes.


Yeah, I think the "traditional" explanation of a muscle car is a mid-sized vehicle with a full-size vehicle's engine. But this explanation over the years has come to encompass Pony cars (Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, etc.) and basically anything with way too much power and typically 8 cylinders or more (with exception of the 3.8 turbo Buick cars, of course).

For post-1980 vehicles that stick with the traditional image of muscle cars, I'd say the G-body (Cutlass, GN, Regal, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, etc.) all fall into line. Also the new GTO even though it almost seems as if it was a replacement for the GM pony car in some aspects like size. The El Camino and Chevy Malibu/Omega/etc. in the early 80s also qualifies IMO

Impala SS/Caprice with LT1s (so I guess the Roadmaster, Fleetwood, wagons also fall in this category) qualifies even though they are full-size cars. In the early 60s these full size cars benefitted from the biggest and baddest engines available (she's so fine, my 409) so they get an honorable mention.

2nd gen F-bodies, although pony cars, continued until 1981. They were smogged down but the potential for mods was definitley there like all other cars mentioned. The WS6 Pontiac had 4-wheel disc brakes, even!

Slywun
11-08-06, 09:20 PM
Great thread!!!


So what defines a "muscle car"? HP? cubic inches? Too many performance cars look like Hondas to me. I like the retro look. At least it's a change from the cookie cutter designs.

My perception of muscle (and I completely understand the other interpretations) is simply oversized power (typically > or = to a V8) and RWD. But it doesn't always apply, always exceptions.

Last gen Supra? Not
3rd Gen RX7? Not
1975 Aston Martin DB? Muscle
2006 Aston Martin DB? Not Muscle instead a Luxo - Exotic
Corvette? Always been the at or near the top of American muscle cars
1960's Shebly Cobra? Absolute Muscle
Mallet Solstice? Cool car, but don't think of it as 'muscle'


I like the retro look too, providing that the life cycle of the new mustang doesn't evolve into a 2015 version of the 1974 - 1978 Mustang II. Do you think they'll ever be a retro Omni GLHS?